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AlolanYoda, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

I also think that when I see people of that age married or with kids. But I think it’s just because of our different life experiences.

I opted to enroll in a PhD right after graduating and so, at 30, I still feel like my life isn’t at a point when I can start thinking about kids or marriage. But I know a lot of people enter relatively stable jobs as soon as they graduate university (or high school, although in my circles everyone went to university - it’s not as expensive as in the US here). I can understand people in that position starting to think about family earlier than me.

ReluctantMuskrat, in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

I was just a kid… why would you think I’d know better?

ULS, (edited ) in You're just a kid, how would you know what you want for the rest of your life?

It goes up. Now I think people that get married before 40 are weird.

On serious note… It’s any age. You can tell when a couple is just trying to reproduce an image of “family” because they were told it’s the next thing to do in life. Working in retail id often see families you could tell just went through the motions and that everyone was disconnected from one another. It’s sad.

PopOfAfrica, in Google “search”

Kagi has kicked ass for me. Its paid, but you get what you pay for.

The only sore spot is image search.

Fungah,

I liked kagi for the first couple months I had it but then I noticed the results seems to be getting worse. Google tier. I cancelled because why pay for that?

I’m not sure if the results were better at first or whether I just noticed flaws more the longer I used it.

I’m often not even bothering to search for technical issues now. There’s been a big mindset shift in me. If I can’t figure it out on my own then pack it up and move on to the next thing. It’s a 5050 shot at best whether you’ll get help on a forum and search is a dumpster fire everywhere. I’m learning a lot more this way and retaining but fuck me running is it ever frustrating

redcalcium,

Have you tried downranking (or even blacklisting) the spammy sites on your Kagi search result? That alone is an improvement over Google.

problematicPanther, in Google “search”
@problematicPanther@lemmy.world avatar

ive not used it in a long time, so I’m ootl. What’s going on with their search?

So_zetta_slowpoke,

It’s ads all the way down

Blackmist,

It’s not really the ads on Google Search itself that break it.

It’s that almost every result is some automatically generated spam created entirely in response to Google’s algorithms. And it’s those pages that are covered in ads. Google broke the internet.

You can still get what you’re looking for, but I home in on results that look like forums or other actual user generated content. Didn’t even realise I was doing it tbh. I just mentally filter out most of the shit.

shneancy,

yup, nowadays if you don’t add “@r*ddit” to a tech related search in google you’ll get 10 seemingly copy pasted results that look like “1. download our drivers updater :))) 2. if you don’t want to do that, just give up lol”

Blackmist,

Even the Microsoft pages are terrible.

Everything is a bot that gives you four paragraphs of text about how they’re a certified Microsoft Windows professional technician, but all they ever do is tell you to run sfc /scannow.

Trarmp,

It’s terrible for tech searches too; half of those results are copy-pasted from Stack Overflow. Though that goes for DDG as well.

Xanis,

Same here. I almost responded asking what the issue is when I realized I query Google Search with specific keywords and cheats, ignoring all the bs in the list. At some point I just adapted and didn’t notice.

Now that I think about it there have been a few times where I’ve had to struggle to find something, especially if it is medical related. Gotta give old Reddit this: It’s been around so long with so much activity that you can at least get pointed in the right direction by throwing it into a search and hitting enter.

TheAnonymouseJoker, in Google “search”
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

I have no idea why the best search engine is not mentioned in any of these comments. Maybe it is the same reason why I am not going to mention it either, to stop normies from ruining it.

maris,

I’m curious now…

TheAnonymouseJoker,
@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml avatar

A hint: they are the only major search engine to not give a flying fuck about DMCA and USA laws. This is also the reason why it is the undisputed king.

nightwatch_admin, in Proof of twerk

I wish for Lemmy Gold hoo boy

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

🤮

Albbi,

Could donate to OP’s instance. More useful than reddit gold ever was that way.

A button for that would be pretty neat.

nightwatch_admin,

Great idea!

hoshikarakitaridia,

Maybe make it more interesting “give this man a medal” and you pay money for that, but the money gets donated to the instance. That could be cool.

Diabolo96, (edited )

Yep, people will throw hundreds if not thousands of dollars at big tech giant for random useless cosmetic stuff. Using this late stage consumerism drive for actual good is honestly the best solution. This is not sarcasm. I actually lost faith in the fight against Hyper-consumerism.

saltnotsugar, in chop chop

Rizzo’s discount burial shredding! You dead ‘em, we shred ‘em.

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Is Soylent Green another Option?

velox_vulnus, (edited )

Nah, too old school. I’d recommend Fissioneral. Want to shred your entire existence and generate energy for three generations of your descendants? It uses the same technology as the sun! Give us a call!

Holyhandgrenade,
@Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world avatar

That sounds dope tbh

maniel, (edited ) in Google “search”
@maniel@lemmy.ml avatar

not sure about other languages, but with Polish Google is still the most useful one, Bing and DDG don’t even hold a candle to it, that said i still think Google went to shit hard

sgtlighttree,

Same, DDG fails with local results here in the Philippines, I found myself adding “g!” to my searches more often

Trarmp,

not !g?

lobelia581, in Feeling Sad and Depressed?

more accurate than webmd

SpaceNoodle, (edited ) in They forgot about Rankine

Kelvin is an absolute scale, not measured in degrees

Paradachshund,

Well look at mister smarty-pants with his science facts over here!

fastandcurious,

Isn’t radians a measure of angles, or am I not getting the joke?

Hazmatastic,

I mean, you could just convert the Farenheit or Celsius degrees to radians like they were angle degrees. “Bake at 6.109 radians for 45 minutes” still can mean “Bake at 350 degrees for 45 minutes” if you accept the implicit Farenheit scale. Radians would still be ambiguous regarding the base scale used, but it’s as ambiguous as “degrees” is so not really an issue.

So I mean, there’s no real reason to do it but also no reason you can’t.

Pulptastic,

You have to specify radians fahrenheit for that so we don’t confuse it with radians Celsius and blacken the thing.

lolcatnip,

Except temperature degrees aren’t related angle degrees. You’d be using a pun as a unit conversion.

Hazmatastic,

Oh they’re unrelated, and it’s a pointless conversion I know.

Technically speaking these would be unrelated radians under the same name measuring different units. But you could still do it if you really wanted

lolcatnip,

Not sure if amused or horrified.

wischi,

The joke is because of “degrees” (also to measure angles) and “radians”

SpaceNoodle,

That was the joke, which I was trying to help further by pretending that there was nothing wrong with that.

mod_pp,
@mod_pp@lemmy.world avatar

Who are you so wise in the ways of science?

Son_of_dad, in Pizza delivery

Tip your building superintendent this Christmas, they’re actually on the top 10 list of dangerous jobs in North America, like 10 spots above cops. I’ve done the job and it’s high risk of ergonomic injury, as well as accidents, and working alone makes it even more hazardous. You can get sick from the job, get crushed by garbage bins, electrocuted, poisoned, gased, burned, fall off a ladder or worse, and it’s low pay.

LemmyKnowsBest,

Superintendent? Don’t you mean janitor? Custodian?

Son_of_dad,

Custodian more like it, janitors just clean up. Many people call them building supers

sour, (edited ) in Put the fish down.
@sour@kbin.social avatar

do fishkeeping

is science and more interesting

whatwhatwutyut,

Highly agree. I love fishkeeping, so finding a dude that likes it too would be great… as long as they semi-understand what they’re talking about. No tropical fish without heaters, or tanks that aren’t properly cycled for example…

words_number, in Trig

Basic trigonometry is super useful and not that hard to understand or memorize.

DeathsEmbrace,

It’s because trigonometry is used to teach people geometry and nothing in real life application. You want basic trigonometry in real life we should use physics as a basis for why trigonometry is useful in real life. You can’t expect theory to be used in practicality when nobody has any experience.

Liz,

Ah yes, because plumbers, electricians, and brick layers never have to deal with geometry. That being said, none of my geometry education was taught with a practical motivation. But that being said, I was in the advanced track classes, so none of us were becoming professional carpenters. I’m actually probably one of the most “hands-on” people from that class, both in my job and in my life. I build scientific instruments and enjoy fixing things around the house.

dangblingus, (edited )

I don’t understand, out of all of the things that we teach students in schools, out of all of the things that people don’t demand justification for learning, why Maths gets all of the flak. It’s the foundation on which the universe exists. If people don’t understand that they’re not just learning trigonometry “just cuz” then they probably don’t have much of a career in STEM planned for themselves. Which is fine, but western society’s blindspot for STEM is 100% attributed to the intentional undermining and dumbing-down of the education system.

We regularly don’t give students justification for why they learn grammar, biology, chemistry, physics, visual art, and music. But as soon as you show someone a standard polynomial, they lose their fucking minds.

DeathsEmbrace,

It’s the exposure that undermines it. Their isn’t enough exposure to real life application and examples. How many people never realise that velocity is a derivative of position over time or acceleration is a derivative of velocity over time. Or that the speed of light is a horizontal asymptote for matter.

johannesvanderwhales,

I dunno, I see people complain about “why do we have to read books that are hundreds of years old?” too pretty frequently. Some people are just hostile to education. Honestly, cost aside, I’m a little disappointed in the number of people who complain about college as if the only thing you get out of college is a piece of paper.

SomethingBurger, (edited )

It’s a valid complaint. Why is Shakespeare more legitimate than, say, Stephen King for high school classes? Reading is reading, and asking students to read boring books because “they are classics” is the best way to discourage them.

In high school, I had to read Phèdre, a story told in verses about some incestuous rednecks from Greek mythology or whatever, written in the 1600’s. It was painful.

frezik,

For that matter, why do we read Shakespeare? They’re plays. Watch them as plays or movies. If kids first exposure to Star Wars was by reading the script, they’d hate that, too, and they should.

prime_number_314159,

I had to read Shakespeare, then read another book about how witty and clever it was to the people of the time, then write a report about how witty and clever it was, once I understood the historical context. My conclusion that having to explain jokes is the death of humor got me a C-.

saigot,

There are a lot more authors who took inspiration from shakespeare than Steven King. Shakespeare is just objectively more influential, tropes he invented are used all the time in many places and there is value to understanding where the source comes from.

DahGangalang,

I think there’s something to be said about shared cultural experiences, and so reading some older books is probably a good thing.

To clarify what I mean though: that means that we should be reading stuff that was written/popular when our grandparents were our age. Going back 200+ years should be saved for a history class cause that’s the real value in reading that material. In my opinion, Great Gatsby should be about the oldest book kids need to be reading for a literature class these days, and even that’s pushing it.

MinekPo1,
@MinekPo1@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I feel like similar issues are also present in humanities , but they are less visible .

I enjoy doing recreational linguistics , writhing poems , stories and argumentative texts , yet I always sucked at humanities at school . I learned a lot of what school tried to teach me on my own , often after failing to fully grasp it at school . On the flip side , a lot of time was spent learning about things I still do not know the use of , that I , with some difficulty , crammed for tests and forgotten .

Even with maths which I am quite good at , I often entered new topics with some knowledge of them from doing maths recreationally , which was not that great for me , both as I did not have enough resources to find the gaps in my knowledge and as I spent time not building on the knowledge I already had .

I think this is an issue of how little we focus on individuals in our schools , though this is not something I blame teachers for , to be clear , they have no option to do so , especially as being a teacher not rewarded enough , ignoring both the extra workload outside of school and with generally shitty pay .

I often find that the best way for me to learn is via exploration , trying to do something and researching ways how to do things needed to reach the goal . This is unfortunately something school doesn’t have space for and I suspect it is one of the factors behind this misunderstanding .

The reason I feel like maths gets more heat for not having a use is because its harder to convey meaning of abstract equations , as someone else in this thread put better then I can , many students , I feel like , miss a deeper understanding , being left with only what is needed to pass the test , forgetting even that soon after …

Asafum, (edited )

For me, my “education” with math was "when you see this: 5/73¥π7^t then you use 5-8(25&6)_9gh8/6 not 5&6(9!4_89) ok memorize it for the test.

Oh you want to know why or what it does or what it even is? No that’s college work. You’re in highschool, memorize it because reasons.

Yeah… That’s not how my brain works no matter how badly I wish I did. I need to UNDERSTAND not memorize! I can’t memorize seemingly arbitrary bullshit that has no explained meaning. My brain instantly tosses it as irrelevant information.

ultra,

Same but “you’re in middle school, that’s high school stuff”

MinekPo1,
@MinekPo1@lemmygrad.ml avatar

I find that the best way for me to learn is to learn the use of something first , then find that something . Exploring a problem and finding the solution is way more engaging than repeating a basic task over and over again . And unfortunately schools , at least in western countries don’t have space for those things . Its all cramming cramming cramming , which sucks , both for the students who are weaker in a subject and those who are better at it .

Students often reach for tools to bypass problems , not realising how useful that tool would be at understanding the problem . Learning becomes a chore , not something that one does for self improvement .

In the US this is enforced even more by imperial units , which put one more roadblock when students try to use what they learned in a way which has any connection to the real world .

It hurts , both being a student which has large voids in knowledge that is expected , being a student which is ahead of material by a large margin and seeing other students struggle with tasks , to me , simple . It hurts knowing how complex of a problem this is , especially as one notes its connections to the wider world , both how failures of the education system hurt our society and how society is not able to help our schools .

RushingSquirrel, in Trig

One day, while working on a website, I was wondering how to calculate a specific point in a graph. After googling, the answer was by using sine and cosine. Mind blew away, I had always thought I’d never use them.

Pyr_Pressure,

And guess what? You found it out without having to memorize the process until you knew it by heart.

zerofk,

Apparently, they didn’t know it by heart. If they had, they wouldn’t have had to spend all that time searching.

rhadamanth_nemes,

The point being that memorizing complex math is pointless unless you’re using it for some sort of day to day.

Liz,

Not really. The point of getting really good at it in your teenage years is so that when it shows up 30 years later you have a vauge idea of what you’re looking at and can figure it out again. If you had only a surface level understanding to begin with, it’ll all be totally gone by the time you need it again, and very few people have the gumption to teach themselves a subject from scratch.

AlDente,

Complex? It’s just Sohcahtoa my friend

I thought this was early high-school level stuff.

AngryCommieKender, (edited )

Instructions unclear. Toe is still dry, dick stuck in super soaker.

atkion,

Since becoming an adult it has become increasingly obvious to me that early high-school level stuff is impossibly complex for a significant chunk of the population.

AlDente,

It’s unfortunate that you are correct. However, when it comes to memorization, trig seems pretty tame. That one mnemonic just about covers it all. Even multiplication tables seem like a larger memorization effort to me.

Lazz45, (edited )

The reason they drill it in to the extent that they do is so that you have a foundational understanding of the underlying math on which to build new knowledge. If you show up in calc 1 in college without remembering even the basic concepts you were previously taught in things like trig…that can really bite you in the ass. My teacher LOVED pulling out classic substitutions for Secant, Cosecant, and cotangent (No, i didnt outright remember them from Trig, but I had seen them, and that made refreshing much easier). Also these concepts then form the basis of many other fields such as physics (electricity/magnetism, kinetic motion, optics, etc.), chemistry (quantum, MO theory, and things relating to the physics side of why chemistry occurs), and many of the graphing concepts used in engineering/stem only make sense if you have the foundational understanding of what integration/derivation are. Those stem from understanding how to graph complex functions by hand (like we did in trig) so that when you are doing it later with assistance, you still GRASP what is going on.

Yes its not perfect, and yes for people who never need that later in life it can suck. However, I would make the argument it is better to have more of your population educated to a higher standard than what is needed in daily life, than to only give that to those who are aware enough at a young age to actively seek said education

Pyr_Pressure,

Personally once you got to the Cos Sin Tan and Log part of math in grade 11 and 12 no amount of practice ever improved my understanding of the underlying principles. Once most of the work gets done in the calculator or computer I just lost sense of what was happening in the background. It’s just turned into put number in calculator and get answer. But that’s probably just a failing of the local school systems methods or the individual teachers maybe.

EmergMemeHologram,

That’s where math starts getting spicy though!

You gain a new appreciation for logarithms when you do statistics.

Lazz45,

There will be those that do and dont get the “nitty gritty” of the theory side of the math. Those people sometimes become math majors. Normal people (joking, dont be mad math majors), need more than simply the theory side of the math and actually need to see/perform the application side of things. I never once “understood” the lesson in math class when we go over the equations with variables only. I only truly began to learn the material and be able to use it once we got to the example problems. We would do multiple in class and then I would understand how to literally go through the problem and perform the math that was expected of me on the homework, and subsequently the test. There is tons of stuff i know how to use in math, but by no means understand WHY it came to be, or HOW its works for the realm of mathematics. I wanna know how this math can help me solve real life problems, problems I will face in industry, or even just a cool way to apply math in the real world. Not how it will be used in research to find new types of math we wont be able to apply for 70 years.

It was pretty funny being in calculus in college. I was in a class with mostly engineers who were also taking the exact same weed out courses, and nearly every day after the professor would finish showing us the theory side of the lesson, hands would shoot up and the question of, “What application does this have in real life or engineering? Like, how will I actually use this?” always got asked. So not “loving” the theory is by no means uncommon (we all wished for an application focused version of the class to exist, for people like stem students who are not into the math theory lol), but I still see the value in having it presented so that you can have a more foundational understanding instead simply going through the motions

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