Data points in the range of Gigabytes (uncompressed), the rest is unoptimized textures and models, duplications and other bullshit. Bet you could get 10 or so fps more, if they invested a few days for optimzations.
IIRC ark stores each model. If the island has 1000 trees, it stores the model of each of them, instead of having 1 model and copy-pasting it. Neither CoD not ark care a single bit for their storage needs.
On console: Mw2 150gb warzone2 115gb Mw2s “cod hq” for launching games 50gb (the only mandatory one) Mw3 seems to be about 190 looking at articles. (For campaign, zombies and warzone)
They’re starting to obfuscate where each thing comes from now with the Cod HQ Launcher to play off the size of the games. As well as let you delete components like zombies and campaign to “save space” that they hoarded.
I know storage is cheap, but nearly half a terabyte? I’m already giving any game the side eye if it takes more than 50G of space on a disk, let alone nearly 10x that.
You can choose to compress files on storage. If on linux. Or use tools like ConpactGUI to compress in windows 10/11.(not recommended to compress live service titles)
Part of the reason for the bulk of course is prerendered video and voice assets, especially if it has multiple voice options. Also non standardization of os level compression means you cannot send those conpressed files for users as not all users could use them if compressed using the methods mentioned above.
Downloaded dmz for some friends on pc it’s 68 so consoles probably see 75-80 if not more
This is BEFORE the fact that On console, each game demands its own space to unpack the entire thing when it tries to update. So on PS5 not only is the game 150gb, but you need 150 free space to update meaning the game is functionally a “ghost” 300gb (I uninstalled cold war over this shit, I don’t have time or room on a console for that fucking nonsense)
You’d think, thanks to removing HDDs, we’d no longer need file duplicates (because physics) and games get smaller again. But then you get unoptimized 4k textures and huge language packs for the 10000 hours of cutscenes, which you all have to always download. sigh
My guy, if you talk about slow ass HDDs then yes, but games have become so large that you have to have a SSD at least to have enough read speed for reasonable loading time for shaders, textures, etc.
Anything >2TB becomes very expensive very quick
Add PCIe 4/5, M.2 form factor, non-2280 length (like SteamDeck) and extra features (if you need them) and they quickly begin zo add up to a point where it’s not feasible to buy it beyond having enough budget to not worry about that fact.
And afaik you’d need PCIe 4.0 M.2 storage to being able to use DirectStorage
I was only talking about normal m.2 ssds for pc, console is something different. There aren’t many extra features you meed for gaming. Storage is very cheap right now in comparison to what it used to be but it still isn’t cheap enough for game studios to pull this shit
SSDs sure became cheap and I agree that the game devs are pulling some heavy bs with that stuff. My rig is all flash based (+ an HDD that is for nvidia shadow play so it doesnt write my flash to death for nothing useful. I won’t count that).
But shopping for a PCIe 4.0 M.2 4TB 2280 is very expensive when you compare it to a 4TB HDD or even good desktop 8TB 7200 RPM CMR drive.
Usually my backlog is used enough for me to justify not spending the money on >2TB (anything equal or below 2TB is dirt cheap) TLC drives.
Small addition:
4 TB Crucial P3+: 216€
Sabrent Rocket 4TB Q4 M.2: 280€ Samsung SATA 8TB 870 Evo (QLC): 344€
8TB 7200RPM SATA drives (Geizhals link to how I searched): Anything between 145-250€
(Heavily depending on others factors like cache but still cheaper if you have the patience to wait).
8TB 2280 M.2 SSDs: Starting at 780€.
Yes the costs are coming down and 5 years ago you would probably be ballin to even think about 8TB in flash as a consumer. In another 5 years SSDs may become so cheap per TB that only € per TB would make a HDD feasible until you start to put SSDs in a 3.5" enclosure and arent constrained by the 2.5" form factor. The cost quickly gets out of hand at some point for a consumer just for having to wait 20 seconds to one minute.
Hope I made my stance clear: It’s cheap. Until it isn’t (for a consumer)
Indeed but the drop in prices for what I considered the normal sizes gives me a little bit of hope for the bigger drives, I would really love a 4/8tb drive so I don’t have to worry about storage again but that will have to wait some time
It’s getting 100% intentional. I find it ironic when CoD used to be known for being a fairly storage conscious game and now it’s this monstrosity we see before us. Glorified $70 DLC that takes up MORE space than the game it was made for
Why delete unused code and assets or optimize anything when your player base built their personality around your game? They will buy a 3rd SSD at the same time they buy the same game for the 4th time.
Of course, everyone knows you start development of a new game from the code base of the previous, but you aren’t allowed to change or delete any of the old code, you need to copy paste the functions and append a version number. It’s called version control.
Nope! Not even that. Just an agreement between the scam arti- sorry, seller and the dumbfuc- sorry, buyer, that the rights to something have changed hands. Nothing more, nothing less.
Hey at least then you own a domain name and all of its subdomains and can make them point whatever you want and host whatever you want out of them. When you buy an NFT you own one URL on an image hosting site, whose content you don’t even control.
fair enough, but $12/yr for something I can do whatever I want with vs several grand once for an immutable monkey JPEG that i cannot do anything with except sell to someone else…
I personally view crypto and the crypto boom as an experiment in unfettered capitalism - it’s still a new technology, the governments haven’t caught up to it yet so no regulations, yet quite literally 99% of crypto usage was in trying to take advantage of others (scams) and speculation.
The only thing with actual value that came out of crypto was probably Monero, which allowed for completely anonymous payments, something that crypto, when paired with crypto exchanges, is bad at.
Onion routing (like Tor) is the default for the Lightning Network. Every crypto that supports it already has private payments, including Bitcoin.
There’s no way to validate the total supply of Monero. So if it ever has a supply bug (like Bitcoin’s value overflow incident), then it won’t be detected and patched.
I don’t 100% disagree with him. Like he said, it is an additional risk. Assuming no supply bugs, you can validate what is published.
I just disagree with him that it’s “near zero probability”. This already did happen with Bitcoin and we only caught it because we weren’t assuming zero supply bugs. Bugs happen and we’re talking about the future money supply for all humans.
Edit to add: and BTW it’s not just cryptography bugs (rare), but anything related to validation (like value overflow)
Maybe I’m not very knowledgable, but even Monero seems sketchy to me. I’ve clicked into what I thought were blogs about privacy that ended up being sites that exist only to promote Monero, once you look into them. That and the way certain accounts will do nothing but praise Monero just seems very greasy to me. I also wonder how it solves some of the other problems inherent to crypto, such as the environmental concerns.
For things like drugs like the person mentioned below, I don’t think I’d trust someone who didn’t just use cash.
The level of the NFT craze was kind of wild though. I remember watching this Hot Ones interview with Mila Kunis where she mentioned “connecting with the audience through NFTs” and “the audience owns the art to the show”.
At the time I remember thinking that I don’t really understand how that would work in practice or what value NFTs really bring to this situation. I just assumed I didn’t understand. Turns out…nobody did. It’s just a bunch of bullshit.
No they aren’t NFTs are recipts. That is all they are. They can have a connection to images or physical goods but they only proove that you bought a recipt and not actual ownership.
Sort of except it means nothing. It’s like having a deed with absolutely no legal weight.
If I buy a microwave and try and return it with only the receipt they won’t give me a refund because I only bought the receipt. I could sell the receipt, sure it says you bought it but I am keeping the microwave.
I was pretty shocked when I found out that NFT pictures aren’t even stored in the block chain. NFTs are just records on the block chain with links to images stored on ordinary servers.
This is because you (in theory) need the whole blockchain to validate an NFT, so you want to keep it as small as possible.
But since you store the Cryptographic Hash of the image too, you can validate that the image on the server is actually the same one referenced by the blockchain. You could even move it to another server, but it will break the link obviously
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