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RIP_Apollo, in Louis Rossman is right

I hate the tribalism regarding Apple products. There are loyal fanboys who won’t hear a bad word about Apple, and then there are Apple haters who criticise everything about them.

I wish we had some more nuance in this debate. The reality is that there are advantages and disadvantages to Apple products. I’ll outline a few:

Advantages

  • Long iOS support. Typically you can expect an iPhone to be supported for 5-7 years, which is well above the average in the industry.
  • No bloatware or adverts on the iPhone
  • Better privacy than Google Android/Microsoft Windows
  • High-end hardware, e.g. M1 chip in MacBooks.
  • User friendly design. Nice user experience.

Disadvantages

  • Overpriced. Seriously all Apple products are more expensive than the competition.
  • Anti-consumer business practices that influence the industry. They normalised removing the headphone jack and using non-removable batteries, which other manufacturers followed. Another anti-consumer practice is using their proprietary Lighting port, rather than USB (luckily the EU should be forcing them to adopt USB-C and removable batteries soon). Also, no SD card slot because they want you to use iCloud
  • Walled garden. No support for side-loading apps
  • Required to use iTunes to add/remove music to the iPhone, which is a problem if you use Linux (you’d have to use Wine to install the Windows version as a workaround)
words_number, in Firefox is the only way.

Um actually… Opera and Edge weren’t always based on chromium!

Espi,

I have an installer for Opera 12.18, the last one to use their Presto engine. Every once in a while I test it out to see how it has aged.

It's not pretty haha. It barely works.

jetsetdorito,

I miss pre chromium Opera so much lol, lot of nostalgia

TWeaK,

Opera was the shit back in the early days. It could pretend to be any other browser.

narc0tic_bird,

Pre-Chromium Edge wasn’t even that bad. Sure, the engine had its issues and there was probably a bit of Edge-specific JS on some websites, but I’m sure they would’ve eventually got there.

But seeing that even Microsoft abandoned making their own browser engine, it goes to show how complex it is to make one nowadays and with new web APIs/features coming out every few weeks it feels like, it’s almost impossible to keep up.

LeTak,

Chrome was not always based on chromeium. Chrome was based on Apple WebKit until 2013 when they forked WebKit and made the Blink engine.

blanketswithsmallpox, in They're not worth it!
@blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social avatar

I'm a little sad nobody has done the correct math and it's been too long for me to do it off the top of my head lol.

A^2+B^2=C^2? What distance are the diagonals if the sides are 6' apart?

6x6 + 6x6 = sqrt72 = 8.49' !

I did it bois. Ty calculator for sqrt72...

Kongpiler,

Now do the conversion factor from feef to feet!

TheFriendlyDickhead,

The diagonal is 6ft. The side is 6 ft. So 6² + 6feef² = 6²

1 feef = 0ft

eestileib, in They're not worth it!

What dimensional space are the people arranging themselves in?

But seriously, this reminds me of a time at my former (FAANG) employer where HR sent out a 40-minute video about not being an asshole and avoiding lawsuits.

12 minutes or so in, they say “as the number of people in a group increases, the number of potential 1:1 interactions increases exponentially.” I thought “actually n(n-1)/2 but whatever”, and finished the video intending to get on with my life.

My inbox was FULL of engineers who were irate. “HR have proven themselves to be fools!” “I expect the company to never ask me to waste my time on their bullshit again.” “Once again non-technical people talking out their asses.”

HR sent a global apology for the error, asked everybody to not watch the video while they fixed it, and released a patched version the next day.

amycatgirl, in Firefox is the only way.
@amycatgirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Brave, Vivaldi, Edge and other chromium browsers are forks of the main chromium project. They can decide whether to include or exclude features from mainstream chromium.

As far as I know, Brave and Vivaldi will keep Manifest V2 extension support and said that they will not ship WEI (Web Environment Integrity).

Discord uses a modified version of electron, and it’s also probably an outdated fork as well, although I am not sure about that.

Steam, in the other hand, uses CEF, which they use as a way to render it’s interface and as a replacement of VGUI (a good example of this is the steam game overlay), I don’t know if they will ship WEI if it ever releases in chromium as there isn’t a statement from Valve yet.


Sources:

If I missed something, please tell me!

eldain, in This community lately

And thus the brave lammings set out to inform other lemmings, who are as tech savvy and know this is happening, that this is happening by posting memes. Hopefully the people, who would already be using firefox if they cared, switch to firefox so we can breach the 3% market share and that’ll show Google, maker of Chrome and Firefox’ main sponsor, people care enough to stop this madness! - I’m not against activism, but activism in an echochamber can turn into a circlejerk. Everyone stop stroking please… I’m here for the memes.

atyaz, in This community lately

In this thread lots of uninformed people rationalizing why it’s actually okay to use chromium.

Draedron,

It is ok to use whatever browser you want

Stoneykins,

I mean, define “ok” in this context

Will chrome kill you? No

Will chrome physically hurt anyone else because you used it? No

Will the internet become less free if google is able to successfully force this? Yes

Does using chrome contribute to this? Yes, marginally

Would as many people as possible switching off of chrome and chromium and onto an alternative help? Yes

I find this whole thing an interesting argument, as someone who switched from chrome to firefox for extremely unrelated reasons months ago.

HKayn, in This community lately
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

Firefox stans are some of the most annoying people.

Yes, I know I’m contributing to a Chromium monopoly, thank you for telling me. Firefox just doesn’t do the things I need my browser to do.

JokeDeity,

LMFAO, you’re an idiot. There’s nothing chrome can do that FF can’t do better.

HKayn,
@HKayn@dormi.zone avatar

Who said anything about Chrome?

You verbally abuse me and hallucinate things I didn’t even mention. You’re exactly the kind of person I was talking about.

bennypr0fane, in Firefox is the only way.

It gets worse. All Electron applications are Chromium, too.

flowerofanarchy, in Firefox is the only way.

I mean brave is fine. I use firefox and brave and tor browser and mullvad browser. There isn’t anything too bad about brave though

NBJack, in An all too common occurrence

Yeah, and this only gets worse with bigger monitors. Want to use that 43" TV as Monitor #3? Wigglin’ isn’t going to help.

Real users give up and start using keyboard shortcuts to move crap around until they find it again.

Or just get a wireless gaming mouse with adjustable DPI, crank it up to 11 billion, and try to catch it doing near lightspeed as it goes through all four monitors at once. The only drawback is that, according to physics, it will likely have experienced time dilation, which means your mouse cursor has aged significantly in the short time it was in flight.

Cleverdawny, in Lemmy since the reddit collapse

What’s the difference between a fascist and an “anarchist” who does everything they can to kneecap the only viable left leaning political party in the US?

There’s no practical difference, just window dressing. They both cheer on oppression and pain for those suffering under Republicans.

And don’t even get me started on communists. Left and right authoritarians, I’ve gotten death threats from both of them. Whether it’s some leftist telling me I would “get the wall” when the Revolution comes or some fucking Republican telling me that the US was only for Christians and that they’ll go after “traitors” soon, you get to the same fucking place at the end of the day. The only real difference is that there’s far more Republicans, and they’re far more organized than left authoritarians.

GarbageShoot,

the only viable left leaning political party in the US?

If you mean the Democrats (which you must to say ““viable””) you are too lost in the sauce.

“Come on guys, we should back the Strassers. They aren’t perfect but come on!”

AntiOutsideAktion,
@AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net avatar

I really want to know what you said before the communist told you that you deserved the wall

Addfwyn,

the only viable left leaning political party in the US?

I might be misunderstanding you, so I apologize if that is the case, but if you are referring to the Democrats they are far from left leaning. They aren’t even center leaning.

You can’t even say they have a better track record than the Republicans. They bomb countries as much (or in recent years even more) than the Republicans. They advocate for wars. They fund ICE even more than the Republicans. They stand up just as much for reproductive rights (read: not at all). They just do all of it while waving a rainbow flag.

I really hope you meant the Greens or the CPUSA; which have their own issues but are certainly more left than either the Democrats or Republicans.

Cleverdawny,

Whatever lies you need to tell yourself, I guess.

Spike,

Lmao what a pathetic response

marx_mentat, in Lemmy since the reddit collapse
@marx_mentat@hexbear.net avatar

I forgot how ignorant and self-righteous Reddit liberals were. The ones I’ve seen are easily the loudest and dumbest people on this network of federated instances. They have their “conviction” and “is wrong” sliders completely maxed out.

AnomalousBit,

Your post is literally “DuMb LIbrhULS” with bonus noise. Self-projecting much?

marx_mentat,
@marx_mentat@hexbear.net avatar

You’re right I haven’t completely purged the liberal inside me and I hate myself for it being there still

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AnomalousBit,

Since you can’t see the irony in your initial comment, let me spell it out for you in a way you might be able to understand:

You drone on about maxed convictions while being wrong. But, you’re literally doing the same thing that you whine pointlessly about: your original comment is nothing but a shitty, baseless generalized opinion about a large group of people, with zero substance.

But you keep fighting the fight, big dog!

muddi,

Is there a base case or do the layers of irony go on to infinity?

Person: says something

Another person: this other person has no nuance

Yet another person: this other person has no nuance, ironically

Yet another person: this other person has no nuance, ironically

(ad infinitum)

Maybe this is just dialectics, although a little snarky

Graylitic,

Truly the pinnacle of Historical Materialism.

socsa,

I’ll take that over believing pig shit memes are reasonable discourse any day.

marx_mentat,
@marx_mentat@hexbear.net avatar

Make pig shit comments, get pig shit replies

MemesAreTheory,
@MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net avatar
socsa,

I guess that’s why it’s so popular on hexbear. Thanks for clearing that up.

marx_mentat,
@marx_mentat@hexbear.net avatar

It does explain why you see it so much

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ivereadalltheory, in Lemmy since the reddit collapse
@ivereadalltheory@beehaw.org avatar

Tankies when you don’t want your country to fall into fascism.

Oha, in I miss forums

Back in the day when we ran random exes, good times

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