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appel, in Everything I don’t like is Socialist

Whenever someone calls something “socialist”, ask them to explain socialism to you and watch their argument fold like a wet blanket. They usually have no idea. In fact, many would love a healthy dose of Northern European socialism in their lives, as long as you call it “Owningthelibism” or something.

This is why we can’t have nice things.

AntiOutsideAktion,
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Capitalism with social programs is better than without, but that’s not socialism. It’s just not neoliberalism.

Milk_SDF_Possum,
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What makes countries where the State has high power fail then?

masquenox,

Not socialism.

Milk_SDF_Possum,
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Concentration of power with those “social services”, making people pay higher taxes many times for unfair reasons. Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that’ll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country. Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

christiansocialist,

Socialism has all the power on the State with no or little room for individuals themselves to make their businesses and companies, companies that’ll thrive will be friends with the king and create a monopoly in that country.

China has tons of small and big businesses and it’s still socialist.

DPRK_Chopra,
@DPRK_Chopra@hexbear.net avatar

That’s literally what the Chinese flag stands for, but these chunderheads would never know it.

christiansocialist,

“Bu-bu-but they’re a bunch of [insert super racist remarks about Asian ppl]”

PreachHard,

When you say “no room to make business.” That’s where I think the fundamental disagreement is rooted. Socialism is inherently built on the idea that what you are building in a capitalist system is exploiting labour. The people you bring in should have ownership of the company too in a socialist system, not the state. What you’re describing is a communist dictatorship. State programs should be run by the state just as they are in most countries now. You certainly don’t want companies running your government.

masquenox,

Putting everything in the hands of the State is a recipe of disaster.

Tell me you don’t understand what the word socialism means without telling me you don’t understand what the word socialism means.

AntiOutsideAktion,
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The fuck

outer_spec,

🤓

AntiOutsideAktion,
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Dubious_Fart, in Lemmy might, MIGHT have a small bias towards the left

I think you will find any place thats well moderated and cracks down on bigotry and hatespeech will skew left.

Weird how that is, huh?

Milk_SDF_Possum, in Everything I don’t like is Socialist
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I guess that book would be written by someone who calls everyone who they disagree with a “right-wing extremist”.

CyberGhost,
@CyberGhost@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Copium 🚬💨

masquenox,

There is such a thing as a “non-extremist” right-winger?

Milk_SDF_Possum,
@Milk_SDF_Possum@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

No, they’re all violently discussing things, terribly defending your rights of saying your mind and defending more of those horrible things like stable families, no concentration of power and you having the control of your money instead of giving it all to the government in taxes. Meanwhile leftists are peacefully burning stuff, lovely degrading others’ properties and making those magical explicit parades in public. No, only lefties are good. Right bad.

SootySootySoot,

I already have the right to say my mind and it doesn’t help my living situation at all, meanwhile right-wingers thankfully utilise their right to call for my death, the concentration of power is all in businesses which right-wingers consistently protect, and wtf does it mean to defend stable families?

Undoing all the tax, benefits, and public services I’ve ever had wouldn’t get me out of poverty. Undoing the business and the non-worker class price gouging and manipulating of me and my family, and instead having a better incentive than profit, absolutely would.

Jules,

Oh look a libertarian

anarchrist, in Skull 'n Bones sending drones

Lil’ warcrime

wildtamaskan, in Skull 'n Bones sending drones

Lyrics of Mass Disruption

Wookie, in Skull 'n Bones sending drones
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Steel Beemz

Goldmage263, in understanding games is a form of systemic analysis
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If the downvoters want to buy more votes mine only costs $500. You can send you money to the nearest food pantry or food bank.

cheery_coffee,

Mine is $498 and I’ll throw in a rude comment

Lemmygradwontallowme, in understanding games is a form of systemic analysis
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This is reformist language at best…

Edit: Sorry for my harsh words. It’s just … the raw urgency and essence of the original criticisms here have just been squeezed out when converted into gamer-code language…

Grimble,

What exactly are you looking for then? Sounds like normal points to me.

NegativeLookBehind, in Skull 'n Bones sending drones
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Got dat world trade fade

Pull up in the ‘Lade

Arab dude is throwin’ shoes

While I cut Medicaid

01189998819991197253, in Skull 'n Bones sending drones
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W, but pronounced Dub-yuh

crazystuff, in It's too late, mommy

Victim of communism? I don’t get it

fossdruid,

[Edited for spelling]

Look up the org. They are the “authority” for tracking historical deaths due to “communism.”

They do things like include all global COVID deaths, because “COVID started in China.”

They are less interested in victims and more interested in suppressing certain ideas.

Thorny_Thicket, in X Videos

These are all porn*

Rozauhtuno, in Environmentalist :D
@Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Diversity of tactics’ is really important to achieve a goal. If all you do is sign petitions, no one will take you seriously. And if all you do is violent demonstrations, you’re gonna get treated as a hooligan with nothing to say.

You need dialogue to raise awareness, and protests to raise the pressure on politicians.

ComradePorkRoll,

I think it’s pretty rude of you not to introduce yourself to the FBI agent assigned to you as you typed that out.

Gallows humor aside, this is incredibly important. Y’all need to read “How Nonviolence Protects the State” as well as “This NonViolence Shit Will Get You Killed.”

DrBob, in Back in my day's.
@DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s hard to choose. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Duamerthrax, in Back in my day's.

You’re chart is missing American’s Army, which was funded by the government.

DragonTypeWyvern,

On the plus side, that one might have actually saved some lives by teaching future child soldiers CPR.

Which, ya know, probably puts it at the head of the curve, propaganda wise, right?

Baby steps.

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