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CrushKillDestroySwag, in 6÷2(1+2)

Very cool article on an aspect of math that I’ve never thought too deeply about before 👍

Portosian, in 6÷2(1+2)

Honestly, I do disagree that the question is ambiguous. The lack of parenthetical separation is itself a choice that informs order of operations. If the answer was meant to be 9, then the 6/2 would be isolated in parenthesis.

chuckleslord,

It’s covered in the blog, but this is likely due to a bias towards Strong Juxtaposition rules for parentheses rather than Weak. It’s common for those who learned math into advanced algebra/ beginning Calc and beyond, since that’s the usual method for higher math education. But it isn’t “correct”, it’s one of two standard ways of doing it. The ambiguity in the question is intentional and pervasive.

Portosian,

My argument is specifically that using no separation shows intent for which way to interpret and should not default to weak juxtaposition.

Choosing not to use (6/2)(1+2) implies to me to use the only other interpretation.

There’s also the difference between 6/2(1+2) and 6/2*(1+2). I think the post has a point for the latter, but not the former.

chuckleslord,

I don’t know what you want, man. The blog’s goal is to describe the problem and why it comes about and your response is “Following my logic, there is no confusion!” when there clearly is confusion in the wider world here. The blog does a good job of narrowing down why there’s confusion, you’re response doesn’t add anything or refute anything. It’s just… you bragging? I’m not certain what your point is.

Portosian,

None of this has a point. We’re talking over a shitpost rant about common use of math symbols. Even the conclusion boils down to it being a context dependent matter of preference. I’m just disagreeing that the original question as posed should be interpreted with weak juxtaposition.

atomicorange, (edited )

I originally had the same reasoning but came to the opposite conclusion. Multiplication and division have the same precedence, so I read the operations from left to right unless noted otherwise with parentheses. Thus:

6/2=3

3(1+2)=9

For me to read the whole of 2(1+2) as the denominator in a fraction I would expect it to be isolated in parentheses: 6/(2(1+2)).

Reading the blog post, I understand the ambiguity now, but i’m still fascinated that we had the same criticism (no parentheses implies intent) but had opposite conclusions.

wischi,

Did you read the blog post?

Kowowow, in 6÷2(1+2)

Nope it’s bedmas since everything is brackets

wischi,

Sorry but I don’t follow. Did you read the blog post?

Kowowow,

Those hoity toity with their parentheses don’t know what it is to struggle

Resol, in Waiting
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All of them

crusty, in The future is now, old man

hoptal

ExLisper, in 6÷2(1+2)

The fuck? I’m getting 15.

wischi,

If you are not kidding, can you show your steps I can try to help you, but I can’t currently think of a way how you’d end up with 15.

MinekPo1, in It's a simple world view
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I am not that simple , some issues are due to my horrible mental health which is horrible for reasons which are not entirely caused by capitalism , I think

ergifruit, (edited ) in Better believe you're getting a text from the openers in the morning about how you missed one dish on the rack.

“Something wrong? Must’ve been night shift!” i had to quit working for medical reasons, but i was so thrilled that my leaving fucked them in every sense of the word, because i picked up all the jobs and extra shifts no one else wanted. true satisfaction.

Dio, in venture capitalism goes brrr
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Yep. Ruined it with that stupid username purge. And yeah as well as the other stuff that followed.

rotopenguin, in I use memes as a coping mechanism
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Personally, I prefer the music of Guy Who Blew His Own Head Off

doctorn, in Not such a conspiracy theory now
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All conspiracies come true if you spread them and wait long enough… Eventually some crazy rich guy will have heard it and make it real. 😅

Humans are weird. 😅

Transporter_Room_3, in Better believe you're getting a text from the openers in the morning about how you missed one dish on the rack.
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“well damn, guess you better get scrubbing it might take you an extra 90seconds of prep time!”

Every time.

And the only response to “then why didn’t you do it last night” is “ask me that when you have 8,000 of them to do before you leave.”

Anyone who has closed should understand. Anyone who hasn’t can fuck themselves with the dirty dish until they have, or understand the feeling.

halo5, in Just a lot of a word that hasn't aged all that well

Worst of all, radio edits of “Sultans of Swing” that cut the guitar solo…

friendly_ghost, in a real feel good story

You better start showing me a little more appreciation around here, Mr. Man!

GrammatonCleric, (edited ) in Better believe you're getting a text from the openers in the morning about how you missed one dish on the rack.
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  • owatnext,

    Found the opener.

    don,

    Fuckin openers, man.

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