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can, in Waiting on that update

Arguably it already exists as the internet

TheOctonaut, in Yeesh

Every time I see a photo myself from 5 or more years ago I wonder how I could have thought back then that I was fat and old.

This sounds like self-love. It is not.

theangryseal,

Lol, since I came to make a comment about being fat and old now, I’m just imagining future me and riding it out without thinking that. Thank you.

ColeSloth, in Waiting on that update

Gotta wait for “Albacoykie boiled toykie” first

Daxtron2, in Enjoy your Call of Duty

I don’t get why modern AAA refuses to compress / distribute lower storage requirement assets.

Th3D3k0y,

Requires effort. Also I’m thoroughly convinced hardware and software companies do it on purpose.

It’s like the whole wearing Nike as your sponsor, the devs are paid to make it badly optimized so customers are encouraged to buy new tech.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Yeah, that’s a fairly harmless conspiracy to believe, I’m in.

doggle,

It’s hard and it particularly slows down the asset production process which is already a disproportionately slow and expensive part of development. Way easier to let the artists go apeshit exporting everything at 8k and a billion polygons because storage is cheap in a production environment.

Compression could help in theory, but then you’d have to decompress assets on the fly which takes a significant amount of processing power. The industry is trying to reduce the latency of getting assets into memory, compression would be moving the other way from that.

If you’re conspiratorially minded then you might also conclude that it’s to prevent people from having another major live service game installed on base model consoles, making you more likely to keep playing the one you’ve already installed. A kind of walled garden effect.

Daxtron2,

I mean I get that decompression can be expensive, but there’s nothing stopping them from having a base version of the game with smaller lower quality assets and allowing players that want to download the huge assets do so with a free dlc. Many games have done this in the past.

SeekPie,

Or like in mobile games (WoTB, PUBG) you have the option to download “HD-textures”.

Daxtron2,

Yeah that’s what I was trying to say, couldn’t think of a specific example of the top of my head tho lol

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

Woah. That was a fine idea, but a free DLC? Management isn’t going to like that concept.

doggle,

Nothing except the work of creating lower quality assets and splitting off the HD stuff into a separate download. Totally doable and I’d love to see it, but I doubt studios will commit the man hours unless they can be convinced that it will really make the game sell better.

tryptaminev,

Why decompress on the fly? For a lot of things the crazy high-res textures aren’t needed or appreciated while playing. I downloaded some newer FTP Quake title. It had 30 fucking GB for like a dozen maps or so. It is a god damn arena shooter. You are way to busy jumping around, making fast paced shots and so on, to ever appreciate that the texture is still detailed, when you are pressing your virtual face against ist. And it takes so much more ressources because the texture needs to be loaded in the VRAM and then scaled down anyways because you aren’t pressing your face against it.

emberwit,

Enough reviewers giving the ratings that influence sales of a game claim to care.

Blackmist,

Isn’t that exactly what most PS5 games do?

samus12345, in I value this meme at eleventy billion and won't take a cent less
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ares35, in Waiting on that update
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

no need. they're still making tons off of v1's dlc and microtransactions.

MxM111, in Waiting on that update
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

Considering AI development, please stay tuned. So, I doubt that we will see “planet of apes” as “society 2”. Sorry, monkey. However, there is still “society 3” possible, depending on our AI overlords. So, as I said, stay tuned.

theotherone,
@theotherone@kbin.social avatar

I am not optimistic at simians surviving a war of humanity against machines. Frankly, I don’t think they will survive just the presence of humans.

QuentinCallaghan, in Waiting on that update
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Obi,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

I’d watch that show so hard.

morrowind, in Waiting on that update
@morrowind@lemmy.ml avatar

It’s so good, we don’t need a society 2

Skymt,

Nah I’m ready for a sequel.

shiveyarbles, in Can you describe Lemmy in one picture?

What a delightful many fingered creature

ColdWater, (edited ) in Enjoy your Call of Duty
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

Better hardware make gamedevs more lazy, remember when they managed to squeeze a game with 3d+music into a CD? (Lego island) now 100+GB for a below average and unfinished game, back then if you have mid even low end PC you can still enjoy most if not all the games (1990-2009) ever released now devs just know everyone have high end PC to play their 10 minutes games before you got board and play solitaire instead

DumbAceDragon,
@DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works avatar

remember when they managed to squeeze a game with 3d+music into a CD? (Lego island)

Back then a CD had about as much storage as your entire hard drive. Also, lego island isn’t really a AAA game. A AAA game from 1997 would be something like final fantasy 7, which came on two whole CDs. Drive capacity hit a boom around the 2000s and 2010s, and only recently have AAA games been catching up.

People always want to blame this shit on game developers being lazy, and they’re not wrong that a lot of AAA games are bug ridden messes designed to please shareholders. But games are getting more and more complex, and these developers are being forced to work under strict time constraints.

That doesn’t mean there isn’t room to improve. Maybe offering different download options depending on your storage needs should become a common practice (iirc some games used to do that back when internet bandwidth was limited).

pascal,

Final fantasy 7 was 3 CD on PlayStation and 4 CD-ROMs for the windows version.

I know, I was there.

Karyoplasma,

UT 2k4 was a seven CD box, just saying. Yes, 7.

pascal,

Oh I remember that, the Linux installer was included on the CDROM, it was very unusual for that time!

Karyoplasma,

Yeah, it was one of the few games that actually shipped with Linux binaries. Also after like 8 months, they released a huge update with some 10 new maps, new characters and a new game mode as a free download instead of calling it a “DLC” and charging money for it. Back when games were actually made to be played instead of being a marketing platform.

eclectic_electron,

Some games still do AoE 4 has the HD assets as an optional DLC so you can decide whether it’s worth the drive space/download time.

notepass,

Tho shit has changed since then. The quality of audio and video has increased. Especially on the visual side this takes a lot more storage. More polygons and more pixels equal larger size.

Also, if I remember correctly, data is often stored in multiple places to make it more efficient to read it from BluRay or HDDs.

Tho, with SSDs now in everything, the second thing will probably die out.

ColdWater,
@ColdWater@lemmy.ca avatar

True but they should have take more time and optimize their games

GreenMario,

You can only optimize 4K textures so much that they drop right back to “FHD” or sub HD quality. 4K is big.

Perfide,

This is already the case. Even the fastest blu-ray is like 40x slower than the internal SSDs on the PS5 and the XSeX/XSeS, and the largest capacity is only 100GB which isn’t even a single Call of Duty.

DroneRights,

Tho shit has changed since then. The quality of audio and video has increased

That’s a bad thing and we can and should go back.

hemko, in Waiting on that update

Rolling release

DeepGradientAscent,
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Permanent beta.

blazera, in The second coming is near
@blazera@kbin.social avatar

Wah-llelujah

ReallyKinda, (edited ) in This meme is definitely not an allegory for anything

“You did not help me plant the grain, and you did not help me care for it. You did not help me cut it and take it to the mill. You did not help me make the bread. I will eat it myself." And she did.

EfreetSK, in Dragostea Din Tei
@EfreetSK@lemmy.world avatar

Aren’t they from Moldova?

BurnedOliveTree,

Well, yes, but aren’t they different countries only because of Russia?

ZariZari, (edited )

No! But kind of yes.

We have Moldova of Moldova (because Russia) and Moldova of Romania because Romania.

SamirCasino,

A man of culture, i see.

Barbarian, (edited )
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

If you’re meming, lol.

If you’re not meming, then not really, but also kind of yes

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