sirico,
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Welcome to brown town population cool

MiddledAgedGuy,

Water cooling feels unnecessary and expensive. Like most of my hobbies. I don’t get this particular one, but I can appreciate why people might.

TonyToniToneOfficial,
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Noctua master race

okr765,

NH-D15 supremacy

criticalthreshold,

Two NF-A14s as intake fans.

I love the sound of jet engines during morning boot-up.

AngryCommieKender,

Molten Salt cooling. That can handle CPU temperatures of several million degrees. Your CPU may not handle that, but that’s not my problem.

randombullet,

Cries in SFFPCs

Hard to tame a 5800X3D in a 8L case

MySwellMojo,

I slapped an arctic 240mm in my Hyte Revolt 3. Had to… Change things up a bit though

Obonga,

Like i give a fuck what cools best. I want my system to look awesome and the AIO sure looks better imo. At the end of the day: build the PC that makes you happy.

Zerush,
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Some suggestions here, the first a good GPU that can run Cyberpunk or the Witcher III at 300 FPS

https://file.coffee/u/-HvMgNnFK3qqnxvWPUQhP.png

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beefcat,

I like not having to worry about a leak destroying all my expensive hardware.

Karyoplasma,

I once had a PC with watercooling. It died because I was drinking with a friend and wanted to show it off. So I removed the sidepanel and my drunken self tipped the beer bottle which promptly spilled over the running mainboard. Welp, it was some form of water that killed my PC I guess.

BonfireOvDreams, (edited )
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Quieter, less point’s of failure, and in many cases taking up less space. I have compressed air for dust. In the consumer sphere and almost any enthusiast sphere, air cooling > > > water cooling

otp,

less point’s a failure

Why is a “less point” a failure?

Shepstr,

He means ‘less points of failure’.

BonfireOvDreams,
@BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.ml avatar

I CAN’T SPELL it’s less points of failure.

TonyToniToneOfficial,
@TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml avatar

*fewer

Ibaudia,
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Don’t use compressed air on your fans while they’re plugged into the board! It generates current that feeds into your mobo. Usually nothing bad happens but there can be problems associated with it.

Lt_Cdr_Data,

That “usually nothing bad happens” will have to do.

Schmuppes,

Definitely not quieter. I never regretted building my custom loop.

Mrkawfee,

Compressed air is magic. Just cleaned my case and it all looks brand new.

SpaceCadet,
@SpaceCadet@feddit.nl avatar

The only downside really is RAM slot clearance when you need a beefier air cooler.

shiveyarbles,

Yes thank you. I went through a water cooling phase, what a pain in the ass. Worrying about the pump, algae, topping off reservoir, leaks ruining your motherboard. The concept is nice, but the reality is high fucking maintenance for no added value.

Goldmaster,

Yes this correct. I always use air cooling for my self and clients computer builds. With water cooling, you are asking for trouble.

ilovesatan,
@ilovesatan@lemmy.world avatar

Unless you need extra gpu cooling. Which I don’t so I’m a hurricane boy weeeeeeeeeeee

devbo,

just admitting you dont know how cooling works. thats cool.

Sheeple, (edited )
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Okay but what is there to know that isn’t there to know via basic physics and chemistry?

Any cooling works by allowing heat to gather in a source like say a heat sink combined with a way to conduct the heat to somewhere. Either into the surrounding air or liquids.

Then you need something to move the hot conducting matter away to replace it with cold conducting matter. A fan happens to be convenient for moving the hot air that gathered around and inside the heat sink.

onlooker,
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I think it depends on the use case. Personally, I simply don’t jive with the idea of conductive liquids swirling inside my expensive PC.

bjoern_tantau,
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You’re supposed to use distilled water which is not conductive. At least that used to be the case last I saw liquid cooling.

In the end it’s simply not worth it for me. You still need to radiate the heat out, which usually means a big fan, which most air coolers nowadays have anyways.

zagaberoo,

Liquid coolers are by definition just an extra heat exchange step unless you’re venting heat into the ocean or something like a nuclear plant. Otherwise, the atmosphere is your final heat sink either way.

Unless a liquid cooling radiator is significantly larger than the air cooler that would fit directly on the CPU there’s no point whatsoever.

_dev_null,
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there’s no point whatsoever

I’ve been building my own PCs for a looong time, and I’ve been skeptical of using water cooling in any of my machines.

This changed recently for me, when I got my first 4000 series nvidia gpu, that fucker is huge! And it runs hot, spewing all of its heat directly into the middle of the case. I had serious concerns with this gpu + massive cpu air cooler getting in the way of positive airflow through my case.

And this is where water cooling made perfect sense to me: transport the heat away from the cpu, thus clearing a ton of space from the middle of the case, then have a radiator at the top of the case dissipate that cpu heat.

This allows for a ton of air to go through my case, evacuating all of that heat blowing out of the gpu. This also allows for other heat sinks on the mobo and other components to passively cool better

Tak,
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I agree with you in most cases.

There is a point though as a water cooler can cool an extremely small area better than heatpipes. Look at Zen 4 processors for instance. The CCD is so small and offset that many air coolers don’t properly line the heat pipes with part of the CPU making the most heat. Because of this Noctua even makes and sells an offset bracket to try and move the heatpipes over the CCD. Meanwhile a waterblock should cool the entire area at effectively the same rate as it doesn’t rely on vaporizing the coolant and condensing but just pushing coolant through regardless of heat saturation.

Only a fraction of people should really notice that like overclockers and generally people buy coolers they don’t need.

GaMEChld,

No coolant is non-conductive after it leaks. It will mix with dust that has built up on the surfaces of the components and become conductive.

The main reason for distilled water is to prevent corrosion and deposits forming inside the loop.

ornery_chemist, (edited )

I think water is rather rare as a coolant these days. Organics (chemical sense not farming sense) like propylene glycol or some kind of glyme aren’t potentially corrosive to metals if spilled, are harder to grow shit in, have lower volatility, and have a higher thermal limit. Maybe also with a little bit of antifouling agent thrown in. My main gripe with them is that if you do spill them, they don’t evaporate and you’re slipping over the floor for the next few days because you missed a spot.

But yeah, air cooling ftw

ours,

It’s simple for me. Points of failures of air cooling: fans. Failure states: fan fails, system heat protection kicks in and shuts down.

Water cooling? Points of failure: fans, pumps, tubbings, fittings. Failure states: fan fails (best case), worst case? Liquid goes over electronics while they are powered.

ornery_chemist,

Just bought one of those brown monsters for a new build, can’t wait to try it

TopRamenBinLaden,

The noctua air coolers work so well. As long as you don’t care about the station wagon color scheme I think it’s the best cooler for that price range by a large margin.

Zerush,
@Zerush@lemmy.ml avatar

Where there is a will, there is a way

https://file.coffee/u/qnAA6dm0EHeEVdLygrKGa.png

petersr,

Kind of beautiful

HurlingDurling,

Got to love that condensation that will happen in the PC

Zerush,
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