radioactiveradio,

Can’t wait to see hulk semen cartridges everywhere when I go out for a walk.

the_post_oftom_joad,

HULK SMASH CO²!

Hiro8811,

Huh?

mycatiskai,

They are saying these day glo green containers look like the incredible hulk ejaculated into glass boxes on the street.

Hiro8811,

Ahhh. There was no capital H so I got confused.

TheBat, (edited )
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

HULK SMASH?

Kwakigra,

Cyberpunk city with no plantlife other than these algae vats all over the place. Big towers of murky green liquid.

ThatFembyWho,

and they are fed by nutrients extracted from dead humans, because there’s no room to bury anymore and the air is too polluted for cremations

Anticorp,

I’m not sure if these scientists understand a lot of the reasons why trees are nice.

naevaTheRat,

Why do you assume it’s not the reporting that’s stupid?

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Because it is perfectly in line with our society’s continuous descent into a post apocalyptic wasteland?

naevaTheRat,

That’s capitalists not scientists. Scientists make bridges possible, capitalists charge you to cross them.

candle_lighter,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

The answer is trees take years to grow and aren’t suitable in places like rooftops

LoamImprovement,

Also, trees that get too big have roots that damage infrastructure and have to be cut down. I’m not saying I like the dirty fishtank look more, but I can see how this might be easier to maintain in urban spaces.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

It is fucking street

candle_lighter,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

And you can’t grow trees on concrete. This one is particular is just the first one of it’s kind and it’s mostly in a spot to show off the technology. I’m not aware of any other ones that have been built yet.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why there are no trees anywhere in cities, and roofs never have plants anywhere.

NabeGewell,
@NabeGewell@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine replacing trees with those, and some drunk breaking the glass like once a week lmao

rosymind,

That was my thought as well. I’ve seen what some homeless people are capable of. (Not trying to dump on unhoused people, here, but there are some seriously ill people left out on the streets). This glass needs to be nearly unbreakable for it to work

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Not to mention what ordinary pub goers can do!

ILikeBoobies,

Algae should be more effective and pollution kills trees

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Pick metric for efficiency

frezik,

CO2 absorbtion rate over time. It’s not even close.

That said, trees have other benefits in an urban setting.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

CO2 absorbtion rate over time.

Educated person found.

That said, trees have other benefits in an urban setting.

Yes. It is easier to notice burning skin than different CO2 level.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

We are not replacing trees with green sludge canisters. I’ll take up weapons way before that.

TipRing,

While it’s good to be skeptical, algae tanks like this are actually a good idea for the use-cases for which they are designed. Places where trees would be difficult and expensive to grow. The tanks more efficiently capture carbon, require less maintenance, produce fertilizer as a byproduct and the solar panels on the tank produce enough extra power for there to be a USB charger on the bench. The goal isn’t to replace trees with tanks but to use them where it makes sense to do so.

ridethisbike,

This was my thought as well. They should be used in addition to, not as a replacement for, trees, bushes, and grass.

It does make me wonder, though, whether or not we could use these to help capture more carbon than we’re creating.

Sanyanov,

That would require a gigantic scale of operations, and trees are just waaaay more economical.

Think of entire oceans full of algae not being enough to stop what’s currently going on with ecological situation.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Too expensive to grow trees? Thank god capitalism is saving us so much money, we are all so rich now that we can simply buy oxygen tanks instead of having to deal with those money sucking trees and plants.

gerbler,

I think a lot of these are just cool experiments and projects grad students do for the sake of doing them. Then some hack writes an op ed about how we don’t need to worry about deforestation because we can plop algae tanks down instead.

WetBeardHairs,

Oh thank god. We don’t have to worry about deforestation anymore? Phew. Thanks, tank of algae.

anarchy79, (edited )
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Sadly, dealgaeation is quickly becoming a catastrophic problem. However, we are confident we can soon genetically modify human lungs to partially breathe the sulphur clouds that will engulf our planet!

Baphomet_The_Blasphemer,

I thought it was more of an experiment that, if proven successful, could eventually aid in the exploration of space since we would need to engineer ways of creating oxygen for prolonged travel.

smiling_big_baby_boy,

We are in a parasitic relationship with capitalism. Capitalism constantly extracts from life and the environment. When life begin to limit captialism, capitalism will go to great ends to remove life. Capitalism is not sustainable, nor is it naturally occurring. Abolish this evil system.

WetBeardHairs,

How about we only have some capitalism. Let’s only allow less slavery and habitat destruction in exchange for us all to be subservient to billionaires.

2deck,
@2deck@lemmy.world avatar

Okay, you get 5 capitalism. But you have to share.

pelerinli,

What are you, a communist?

CoffeeJunkie,

I’d have to see how it is better than, worse than trees on a case-by-case basis. But generally speaking, I can think of a few reasons this is better:

Trees are messy. They take a long time to grow, they take constant maintenance while growing, then they eventually die. Tree roots fuck up pipes & concrete. If this installation is equivalent to 1 or more trees, it is doing the work in a fraction of the space.

CiderApplenTea,

At the same time, though, green space has shown to improve mental health. I would be curious (and very sceptically biased) if algae tanks have the same impact.

driving_crooner,
@driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

Trees also provide shadows and space for birds and other animals.

doctorn, (edited )
@doctorn@r.nf avatar

It’s been proven that humans didn’t actually get most of their fresh air from the rainforest, but actually from millions of these algea in the sea… Which is actually more logical, since trees do the opposite at night, kinda undoing any advantage they made during the day… Hence why it’s said you should never put a decorative small tree or even plants in the bedroom as they can take away oxygen levels in closed rooms at night. It’s even said not to sleep under trees outside at night cause it can cause respiratory problems.

Micromot,

They don’t use enough oxygen over night to negate the effect as they use the carbon to grow. It’s still bad to have a lot of plants in your bedroom, but it doesn’t really matter as long as they are relatively small.

crystal,

Why shouldn’t you have plants in your bathroom?

Micromot, (edited )

They consume oxygen during the night so when you have a lot of them it can cause respiratory problems, that is for the bedroom

Gork,

An effective HVAC system makes this a non-issue. It isn’t like the air is stagnant, the air handler keeps air moving.

Micromot,

From my experience, european homes don’t have a lot ov ac or ventilation

doctorn,
@doctorn@r.nf avatar

That had me go and look it up and apparently you’re right that they use part of the carbon dioxide as energy storage, but as I understand this storage eventually gets released in full when the tree dies too…

Not sure if that would be so much to balance it out again, but it does still diminish their overall effect even more…

Micromot,

It is just how a tree works, it gets the matter to grow from the carbon dioxide. If they are burned or they die this carbon is slowly released again, same way as coal has carbon that is stored until burning

doctorn,
@doctorn@r.nf avatar

Hence why we’re probably breathing more algea-breath while not so terribly much from trees (unless you’re standing next to one during daytime). 😅

Zink,

I’ve been curious and hopeful about algae, both for carbon capture and bio fuel.

But using it in cloudy green aquariums to decorate a city? I don’t know about that, lol.

DragonTypeWyvern,

Cloudy green petri dishes

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

I like it. :goldmedal:

lowleveldata,

Trees are too useful so we keep cutting them down

grue,

Nobody uses an urban tree that gets cut down. It just gets hauled off to the landfill.

It’s absolutely ludicrous that when the gigantic oak in my yard fell the arborist didn’t know of anybody who could cut it up into lumber for me – even in a city with so many urban trees that it’s called the “city in a forest” – but allegedly the economics of it don’t work out, or something. I dunno if that’s true, but it pisses me off enough that I’m half-tempted to go buy a damn portable sawmill and start a business doing it myself.

FierySpectre,

Say that to the table in my living room. (They removed a lot of old exotic trees that were lining some road some years back, those trees got sold to people making nice tables).

Selling the trees was only a side effect, and these weren’t your run of the mill trees either. But exceptions exist

brown567,

Trees have trouble in urban areas with a lot of traffic

nilclass,

Traffic has trouble in urban areas with a lot of trees

ForestOrca,
@ForestOrca@kbin.social avatar

I saw something like this, which piped exhaust from a generator thru a container of water and algae, with the idea to capture the co2, etc produced. Sure why not. I'll still prefer trees.

toast,

I’ll still prefer trees

God, yes. Trees provide shade, transpirative cooling, homes for animals (birds, mammals, insects), and a particular natural beauty that tanks of algae do not.

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