ShaunaTheDead,
@ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social avatar

Guys, it's not one or the other. We can have trees and algae tanks. Trees can still offer all of the benefits they do like shade and beauty while algae tanks can be used to increase fresh oxygen. Algae is much better at absorbing CO2 than trees and providing clean air which is a big problem in a busy city.

explodicle,

It is one or the other because they’ll come out of the same budget - it’s an “opportunity cost”. So if the city has $1000 to spend on either a tree or a tank, then they can’t spend the same $1000 on both items. We’d need some balance between the two.

fox2263,

Funnily enough, both are in the picture.

LSNLDN,

All these people being like “why don’t we just use trees” as if the capitalists could profit from them like this. And not to say this is cost efficient, of course planting a tree would be better for everyone, but whoever installs these things will have a contract guaranteeing them money that taxpayers will be told is being put toward green initiatives and so will be eager to part with it I guess

EatYouWell,

Do you think that trees don’t require money to upkeep?

Plus, they fuck up any infrastructure they’re around, so that money is going to contractors anyway.

eltimablo,

Shhhh, thinking about things past the barest surface level scares the tankies.

lolcatnip,

This whole thread is a great example of why I’m continually disappointed with Lemmy. Half the comments are just some variation of “capitalism bad”. I hate capitalism as much as the next guy, but it sure would be nice if people would stop grinding their axes for a few minutes to talk about the actual subject of the post. Or just not comment at all if they don’t have anything relevant to say.

Cato_the_Posadist,

Counterpoint: pointing out the source of the problem is always relevant.

Flumsy,

Counter-counterpoint: Capitalism isnt the source of every problem and sometimes there isnt even a problem.

explodicle,

Who said it’s the source of every problem?

Flumsy,

Cato_the_podasist did. The OP of this thread said that this post has nothing to do with capitalism and that we should therefore stop talking about it here. Cato_the_podasist argued against that saying that pointing out the source of the problem is always relevant, THEREBY IMPLYING that pointing out capitalism is always relevant (because capitalism doesnt have anything to do with this post specifically) so if its relevant here, then were is it not relevant?

explodicle,

That’s implying that capitalism is the source of this problem, not every problem. Consider what they’re saying.

Flumsy,

(What I meant is: Capitalism is not relevant here. Maybe sometimes it is the root of the problem but not in every case (and certainly not in this one).

GeneralEmergency,

It’s tiring how militant lemmites can be. Everyone has an opinion and will always find an excuse to spout it.

ILikeBoobies,

Algae should be more effective and pollution kills trees

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

Pick metric for efficiency

frezik,

CO2 absorbtion rate over time. It’s not even close.

That said, trees have other benefits in an urban setting.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

CO2 absorbtion rate over time.

Educated person found.

That said, trees have other benefits in an urban setting.

Yes. It is easier to notice burning skin than different CO2 level.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

We are not replacing trees with green sludge canisters. I’ll take up weapons way before that.

Froyn,

People tend to forget that trees have roots.
Roots cause problems with infrastructure.
Hence why when a problem arises you try to "get to the root of it".

Here's an example of what I mean:
https://hort.ifas.ufl.edu/woody/images/urbanrootsninelg.jpg

Bluescluestoothpaste,

Trees don’t generate large profits this quarter, obviously.

DragonTypeWyvern,

They do for a landscaping company…

boatsnhos931,

Young drunk me would love to throw a brick at one of these…I don’t know why but it looks very tempting

cosmicrookie,
@cosmicrookie@lemmy.world avatar

Trees are too cheap

candle_lighter,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

The answer is trees take years to grow and aren’t suitable in places like rooftops

LoamImprovement,

Also, trees that get too big have roots that damage infrastructure and have to be cut down. I’m not saying I like the dirty fishtank look more, but I can see how this might be easier to maintain in urban spaces.

uis,
@uis@lemmy.world avatar

It is fucking street

candle_lighter,
@candle_lighter@lemmy.ml avatar

And you can’t grow trees on concrete. This one is particular is just the first one of it’s kind and it’s mostly in a spot to show off the technology. I’m not aware of any other ones that have been built yet.

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

That’s why there are no trees anywhere in cities, and roofs never have plants anywhere.

ForestOrca,
@ForestOrca@kbin.social avatar

I saw something like this, which piped exhaust from a generator thru a container of water and algae, with the idea to capture the co2, etc produced. Sure why not. I'll still prefer trees.

toast,

I’ll still prefer trees

God, yes. Trees provide shade, transpirative cooling, homes for animals (birds, mammals, insects), and a particular natural beauty that tanks of algae do not.

Anticorp,

I’m not sure if these scientists understand a lot of the reasons why trees are nice.

naevaTheRat,

Why do you assume it’s not the reporting that’s stupid?

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Because it is perfectly in line with our society’s continuous descent into a post apocalyptic wasteland?

naevaTheRat,

That’s capitalists not scientists. Scientists make bridges possible, capitalists charge you to cross them.

Kwakigra,

Cyberpunk city with no plantlife other than these algae vats all over the place. Big towers of murky green liquid.

ThatFembyWho,

and they are fed by nutrients extracted from dead humans, because there’s no room to bury anymore and the air is too polluted for cremations

Rustmilian, (edited )
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

Trees can’t survive if they can only get water from a 6’‘x6’’ cookie cutter hole in concrete.

QuodamoresDei,

What about a nice shrubbery?

JTheDoc,

And then another shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle.

NabeGewell,
@NabeGewell@lemmy.world avatar

Imagine replacing trees with those, and some drunk breaking the glass like once a week lmao

rosymind,

That was my thought as well. I’ve seen what some homeless people are capable of. (Not trying to dump on unhoused people, here, but there are some seriously ill people left out on the streets). This glass needs to be nearly unbreakable for it to work

anarchy79,
@anarchy79@lemmy.world avatar

Not to mention what ordinary pub goers can do!

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