I really liked Jordan for a while. I even bought his book (12 Rules of Life).
But he seemed to go a bit mental at some point and I lost interest.
Then I read a massive blog post by one of his former colleagues that said he’d always wanted to establish a church and be a preacher. It all kinda fell into place and I realised he’d always been mental.
Sadly it’s times like this when you need to look back and ask yourself how such a blatant charlatan can get one over on you, because they never ‘get bad’ but rather were always bad and you just didn’t see it. Sargon taught me to stay the fuck away from Vaush, that cryptofascist. Seeing how easily Sargon, a blatant nazi propagandist was able to get 1 video out of me made sure that people like him wouldn’t even get that.
Same. I got his book as an ebook and read it. It offers some decent if simple advice and draws some really weird and false conclusions in other places. But overall it isn’t a bad book and I never felt like he argued on bad faith. But eventually I decided I don’t agree with his views overall.
Later he went a bit weird eating only meat and making weird arguments so idk. But before that I totally understood how he could suck people into the right wing bubble.
That's the thing. From what I've gathered, a lot of what he says is perfectly sensible, often age old philosophical advice. But that's how they get you. It's like Russia Today. They mix the lies with plenty of truth. If they only told lies, they would be far less convincing.
Of course, another thing Peterson does, is use expensive words to make himself sound smarter than he actually is. If you have a related degree or spend a little time on wikipedia, you'll notice he's often talking nonsense. But to the layman, Jordan sounds like he's a great intellectual. I don't think he's deliberately trying to scam his followers, I think he earnestly wants to help them. I'm willing to believe he means well. It's just that he's like a respected doctor who thinks he knows better than his lawyer and ends up getting himself convicted. He may be an expert in his field of expertise, but he clearly isn't outside that field. He often sounds like an overeducated idiot. There are plenty of those in academia, unfortunately.
If anything, I find it a damning indictment of society (and the media), that a run of the mill motivational speaker can become so popular.
In my experience and observation, he works best on those who don’t have their own sense of identity because they just picked up whatever mantle was expected of them from society and moved on without a second thought. These people ultimately realize that they and their lives are meaningless and work to fill that void. Someone like Peterson can attempt to fill that empty spot, though ultimately it’ll fail.
I heavily curate my watch history on YT, I know exactly what kind of content I want to be recommended for me, light gaming, odd documentaries, tech, trustworthy debunkings, and that is about it.
Sometimes I get sucked into different types of content, when I want to see cool music videos, but once I am done, I clear them from my history, else they will mess up my recommendations.
I have seen how one new video in my history can completely mess it up untill I remove it from history.
Youtube is doing a pretty big nazi push right now. A more naïve me would have bought into the whole ‘nazis abusing the algorithm’ narrative but I think them running transphobia ads for the daily wire is proof enough that they’re in on it at this point.
The major social media platforms are programmed to simultaneously outrage you and convince you that everything you think is correct, no matter how outlandish or stupid it is.
And it works. Keeps your eyes glued to stupid ads.
For my part, I lost hope in it all when my loving, wonderful preschool teacher started posting about how unfairly Trump was being treated.
They are not the same, but it is still disappointing to see lots of lazy, reactionary arguments, circle jerking, etc even if you agree with what someone is ultimately supporting.
Don’t know if there’s an equivalent community on Lemmy (and honestly I’m not sure I’d want to see it either way), but /r/QanonCasualties was one of the most depressing subs you would ever see.
Just pages and pages of people either desperately trying to free their loved ones from the clutches of right wing conspiracies or people seeking support after they accept that they’re never going to deprogram their friends and family from cult-like brainwashing. Families torn apart. Marriages in shambles. Lifelong friendships broken.
An absolutely heartbreaking look into how much damage these psyops have caused to so many people.
I enjoyed Herman Cain award given out to all the deniers. Was fun, feel bad for the family members that are level headed, but not the ones got the awards.
From posting BS antivax science to the last weeks of their lives asking for thought and prayers. Lol.
Half of them were too up their own asses to see the racism in their own families and used it as an outlet to express their “shock” so as to not face up to the fact that their upbringing needs to be critically examined instead of romanticized. These people, just like their QAnon family, are not mere victims and have their fair share of denial themselves.
Sadly, I am a victim of this same thing. I quite Facebook because family members would bring their friends to attack me on my wall because I happened to post an article they didn’t like. It was constant and daily. I eventually gave up and really don’t ever see those people anymore.
My take is that this has revealed who amongst us is still ruled by their ape nature and who can notice that it’s weird to do that and try not to. Those who use only the monkey brain will fall into these traps every time. It really goes to show you just how primitive our species still is.
I actually don’t think that they are particularly stupid. I think that most people can’t overcome the urge to have and keep for themselves. It’s all very much ape behavior and it pervades all the nasty that humans are capable of.
I’m not saying that people or better or worse. I just think that some let the internal animal out and others keep it in the cage. I do, however, believe that everyone should strive for that.
Yeah, doesn't take much to warp a young mind with pseudoscience and pseudo philosophical blathering.
Because the right has coopted the religious right, this is just a merger of oldschool professional religious apologists tactics into political discourse and it took scores of Atheists making videos, doing talks and going into debates to show these people for the lying pieces of shit they are.
But because they moved into fronting as purely political, rather than religious, the Atheists stay away, because it's not their fight.
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