acmon,

Played hours on CS2 yesterday… ran perfectly fine on my Arch installation… haven’t experienced these issues…

ritchie,

Good for you. I haven’t been that lucky.

raistlin,

Yeah… That might be something on your end then, because me and my friend both use Linux, and we’ve also had no issue.

BlinkerFluid,
@BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one avatar

Why do I feel like giving this a month will make all of this irrelevant?

but this is a crime against God, humanity, gaming and anime!!!

I get it, your favorite game doesn’t work because of a new release. It happens. Take a ticket and sit down for a while. Valve isn’t omniscient about every Linux build in existence or possible glitch on the first week of release.

Hell, TF2 has been broken on arch for almost a month without bypassing a .dll file.

Chariotwheel,

I remember when games launched and generally could be expected to run, because easy patching wasn't a thing yet. They had to make sure that the games worked.

I don't like that this has moved to "well, it's just the first day, week, month, give them time to fix the game." No! When the game releases and people pay money for it, it should work!

DarkenLM,

To be fair, at the time games were made to target a single system, not a myriad of them.

aplomBomb,

oh you mean back in the day when games were way simpler? come on man games these days are so much more complex.

Sharkwellington,

We are talking about Counter Strike. Nothing has fundamentally changed in 2 decades.

EnderofGames,

We are talking about Counter Strike 2, a complete rewrite of the game’s code for a new game engine. EVERYTHING has fundamentally changed over the last year.

MJBrune,

… in cs2 the smoke is physics based particles that can be moved with bullets or grenades. That tech alone is very complex and the calculations need more modern hardware. Not to mention the dynamic shadows and graphics overhaul.

acastcandream,

Which no one asked for.

If you’re asking me if I would rather play the game I bought or not play the game that looks pretty and lose the game I bought, the answer is simple.

MJBrune,

That’s simply moving the goal posts. “There hasn’t been a change for over 2 decades” - “here is a bunch of changes they actually did” - “NO ONE ASKED FOR THEM!” like what kind of argument is that?

Also if you bought CSGO and are expecting to play it, it’s long been gone. It went free to play, even before that they had pretty big gameplay changes like being able to bring in different weapons. Updates to the game have been made. Negev is now a bullet laser! There is a revolver! The M4A1-s exists!

acastcandream,

I never complained about a lack of changes for two decades. CS:GO worked perfectly well for me as-is. And because I’m a mac user, I’ve now lost matchmaking in a game i did pay for.

MJBrune,

Yeah, the Mac issue is a concern. Surprisingly, Valve dropped that without warning. CS2 being a free upgrade to CSGO was touted for a while. It’s almost impossible to miss if you play CSGO. The issue is that you bought into a game knowing it was a GAAS game and you expected it to never change for the worse. If you played CSGO for any length of time you’ll remember weekends of one-shot kill revolvers and 2 hit-kill deagles. So clearly, it’s not out of scope for Valve to push an update to break things. Maybe you’ll get a Mac version back, or maybe they’ll put back the matchmaking servers. Maybe you’ll find that GAAS games are terrible for the gaming ecosystem and will abandon them. Lots of solutions here, only one path you control.

Overall CS2 is getting good-ish reviews. So it’s unlikely you’ll get CSGO fully back.

acastcandream,

it wouldn’t be an issue if you could still play CSGO in the meantime. They removed a game that was working for some, and put in one that isn’t working in its place lol

aplomBomb,

you can, it’s in CS2s beta channel

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

Funny, on release day, I got downvoted for pointing out they pulled a Blizzard/Overwatch 2.

Half-baked release with missing content and no new content? Check.

Release removes previous release, a game that was at one time a paid game? Check.

I feel like Valve gets way too much of a pass here on this for just being Valve.

kate,

CS:GO is still there btw, under the beta options

aplomBomb,

I’ve been having a ball with CS2, and I think releasing at it as a separate game to CSGO would only fragment the player base.

Pozitigor,

On my Slackware64 system cs2 runs the same as cs:go or xonotic used to run

aplomBomb,

anybody that is in here complaining they can’t play this game on Linux should seriously evaluate their life choices, instead of whining maybe you should just install Windows

yozul,
@yozul@beehaw.org avatar

I guess wanting to play a game that’s replacing a game that runs well on Linux and is made by the company that has done the most to improve Linux gaming while using an OS that doesn’t spy on you and treat you like a toddler is a poor life choice according to you?

Maybe some of us have things we care about more than just maximum game compatibility. The horror.

aplomBomb,

If you’re gonna do something, do it right. If you’re gonna game, use Windows.

If you’re gonna do literally ANYTHING else, use Linux for that lol

Beowulf,

I played a casual game and got kicked. If it was ranked, I would understand, but it was casual!

EnderofGames,

Yeah, that happens with certain groups of people. Definitely not a CS2 issue, best you can do is go and play a different map.

MystikIncarnate,

I didn’t realize that they replaced cs:go with cs2 until I was home and noticed an update to install cs2… if it was an independent launch, that would not happen.

The only CS game I’ve played somewhat recently is cs:go, so I put two and two together (ha, pun), and groaned.

I thought valve was better than this.

EnderofGames,

If you want to downgrade your game to an old version, you can. In the betas menu.

MystikIncarnate,

It’s going to turn into the whole CS 1.6 thing all over again

rotopenguin,
@rotopenguin@infosec.pub avatar

It’s a shame that Valve couldn’t get Steam to issue them a new AppID, so they had to delete CSGO in order to put CS2 on the store. It was the only way.

Moonrise2473,

What? Oh no why deleting the old game

I bought CSGO in 2015 and never had the chance to actually install it, do I get some extra content in cs2 or everything is lost?

loutr,
@loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

why deleting the old game

Because it’s a multiplayer game and they don’t want to split the userbase.

dingus,
@dingus@lemmy.ml avatar

And why is that anyones problem but Valve’s?

Who else is hurt by having it split?

It doesn’t hurt the players to have it split, so it feels like you are defending anti-consumer business practices just because its Valve.

EnderofGames,

Players are hurt from having it split. Way more so than Valve. In fact, I fail to see why Valve would be gaining anything, they aren’t selling the missing parts.

When a game updates, do you keep matchmaking servers up for every old edition of the game? Place people in a different queue for every hotfix version they are on? When the game is updated often over a lifespan of 12 years? Then no one would be in any matchmaking, let alone enough people of your skill level.

If they marketed this as “CSGO: Source 2 engine update” people wouldn’t be whining, so I don’t understand why people go out of their way to make a big deal about this. We knew not all the content would be available at release when they completely rewrote and modernized the game’s code.

And no anti-consumer business practices involved. You CAN play csgo still, if you want to. Sure, it’s inconvenient to download an old version of the game to run, but it is also inconvenient to download an old version of any game to run in every case. Anyone saying CSGO is unplayable and “that’s unfair because I paid for it” is maliciously spreading misinformation.

koko,

no, cs2 was always made to be update over csgo

Just read the offical blog post, it’s not a different game, but huge update over it

ReakDuck,

I even remember them saying that they will update CS:GO with source engine 2… Which they literally did.

People got mad because it got a new name too for beta testing. “CS:GO 2”

30p87,

It started with lagging. While loading the game. Classic lagging as in the dark filter fading out flimmering. Then CS2 kept rapidly switching between Fullscreen and Windowed, on sway. Then it randomly froze. My whole system. No luck with even switching to another TTY. So I force rebooted after 10 mins. Started into clearing orphaned inodes, then staying on that message. Force rebooted again. Still stuck at “Arch_Linux_boot: clean, x/x files, x/x blocks”.

CS2 basically just broke my PC.

I will never touch it again. I predicted it was going to be trash, not gameplay wise but programmatically.

0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6,
@0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social avatar

Why install it if you think it's trash

joucker29,

Ong why did they not just keep csgo on steam and release cs2 beside it or wait until cs2 is atleast playable on linux

schnokobaer,

CSGO is still in CS2’s beta channel on Steam as csgo_demo_viewer or something like that, but obviously limited to community servers/offline play, no official dedicated servers.

aplomBomb,

to prevent fragmenting the player base

Veticia,
@Veticia@lemmy.ml avatar

To keep thousands of now irrelevant reviews, allow themselves to remonetize content and jumpstart a player base that now has no other choice but to switch.

imPastaSyndrome,

Tbf they’re KEEPING ALL cosmetics unlike fucking overwatch

EnderofGames,

It IS playable on Linux. It ISN’T playable on computers over ~10 years old.

joucker29,

The game was unplayable on linux 2 days after release no matter how good your pc was. It is fine now though.

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