dynamo, Do not cave. Be strong bratan. Either they cut the shit, or you leave that part of the internet.
DrDickHandler, Big corporations will win the long game.
RubberElectrons, Mmm… No. Couple of gen Z kids I know are basically checked out of social media, having reverted to good old group chats it seems.
dynamo, Well, nothing of worth on social media tbh. Reddit and lemmy might be exeptions, but they’re getting worse too (reddit more so ofc, but still)
dynamo, Not nessesarily, we could just fucking buckle at every turn. Either that or something that makes all sides lose.
FlyingSquid, Maybe it’s time we all go back to living like it’s the 80s. Watch OTA broadcast TV and read more books and call people on the phone instead of text them. And use computers to do taxes and word process and play simple games.
lolcatnip, Have you seen broadcast TV? It was enshittified before the web even existed.
teft, Why? Did you not like 8 minutes of ads in a 30 minute block of TV? What are you? A communist? /s
FlyingSquid, I know, but at least it’s honest about it and you don’t have to pay a fee to watch it.
anarchy79, Ha ha ha! This is a problem for you? I WAS BORN IN IT MOLDED BY IT
SpiceDealer, (edited ) Use Invidious/yewtu.be instead of Youtube itself
Switch to either Brave or Librewolf
Use archive.is (or archive.ph) to view websites locked behind a paywall or email block
Tell friends and family to share said content in person
Fear not my friend! We can take back the Internet by refusing Big Tech’s services.
Sheeple, I wouldn’t recommend brave browser tbh. Librewolf or Firefox it is
Lyricism6055, Brave definitely feels like some sortve liability. I think it’s still owned by a Chinese company right?
aredditimmigrant, Regardless, I switched off because I was tired of getting ads in the browser. Been using ff for a while now
ekZepp, Personally i’m using Librewolf browser and not experiencing any of that. I do belive that even vanilla Firefox would do.
LunarVoyager, deleted_by_author
ekZepp, (edited ) Yes, you just set a Firefox account. You can also easily import your saved favourites.
LunarVoyager, deleted_by_author
ekZepp, Is quicker to search a tutorial
RoundSparrow, Agreed. It is urgent that we teach Neil Postman’s “media ecology”. The junk noise garbage shit Internet sucks, and enough is enough!
Lafari, The real problem with YouTube is the censorship, both of creators and commenters, when they aren’t saying anything offensive or problematic but simply referencing different companies, corporations, governments, countries or industries.
Lafari, (edited ) I’m in favor of censorship in some cases - which is why it really takes an insane amount of ridiculous nonsensical censorship that actually hinders constructive online communication for me to be saying there’s a problem with censorship. I thought I’d never say there was a censorship problem, but there really is now, although it seems mostly restricted to YouTube. Elon Musk’s Twitter has some stupid censorship too, though. It takes away accountability when things can’t even be criticised anymore, and misinformation/disinformation is allowed but can’t be corrected, for example.
shiroininja, That’s why I just stick to old school chat rooms, forums, etc.
Sheeple, And those are unfortunately 90% dead as compared to 10 years ago.
Back then I could easily find multiple chatrooms for any fandom all incredibly active. Now I’m lucky to find a singular one that isn’t dead. Fandoms mostly moved on to the big monolithic sites like reddit where interactions and conversation are incredibly artificial
shiroininja, eh, I don’t mess for fandoms unless you count tech, then in that case, IRC and Matrix are super busy. same with general chats usually.
superterran, Meanwhile, I’m enjoying the peaceful bliss of Memmy loading everything in reader mode
aluminium, Newpipe Lads rejoice
psmgx, Yarrrrrrrrr brother.
Or just start paying for content to people / orgs deserving of it
Rayuza, If the prices weren’t so ridiculously high, i would consider paying
callouscomic, I’m over this word enshitification. There are far simpler ways to say it, but everyone online has latched on to this moronic term.
unrelatedkeg, Honest question: What are the alternstives?
I agree that enshittification is a, well, shitty term, but I know obly it to describe the problem at hand.
Alternstives I think of are walled gardens, collapse of the internet as we know it, lockdown of social media sites, etc. - none of them all that simple and miss the point enshittification has.
TheGrandNagus, (edited ) The only other good term for Enshittification I’ve seen used is Platform Decay. It was even coined by the same person who coined enshittification.
unrelatedkeg, Thanks, never heard of it & will switch to it myself!
Just as short and not as inappropriate.
mob, Decay?
meyotch, Decay is a natural process however that just happens if you don’t stop it. I still think ‘enshittification’ fits it best because it implies a bit of intentionality on the part of the shittifiers.
The term is sticky (ewww) and I think we are stuck with it.
unrelatedkeg, Yeah. ‘Decay’ has a natural *whiff, to it, while ‘enshittification’ reeks of it being actively made that way.
orcrist, I’m 100% feeling YouTube’s throttling. It has already led me to watch fewer videos.
JakJak98, Absolutely. But momma didn’t raise no coward. Will keep watching ad free.
moshtradamus666, Use Ublock Origin and you’ll be fine.
androidul, True and very annoying in the same time! The web is ruined :(
Cowbee, Capitalism does this to itself due to the profit motive. Where once is innovation and brand new disruption becomes petty iteration as this new frontier slowly but surely becomes a well-oiled profit machine. The upside is that FOSS makes replacing this profit-generating soul-sucking bloatware with better alternatives very easy.
Replacing the existing infrastructure of Capitalism by building up parallel structures is a valid means of weakening Capital itself.
Kaizodrack, Really waiting for an youtube alternative tbh.
Cowbee, PeerTube! If you just want a better YouTube, check out NewPipe.
Kaizodrack, Already use Newpipe, might give Peertube a chance tho.
Cowbee, You definitely should if you want a viable alternative!
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