Guess people should just be slaves to their debt because Checks Notes Banks are owned by people. Nah fuxk that noise, banks are owned by people profiting off the fact that they have large sums of Money they didnt even work for and gained by exploiting workers. Retirement funds and pension funds aren’t in any sort of peril from folks on their last legs declaring bankruptcy. Do you know who is in peril? Folks who are in crippling debt, which is one of the leading causes of suicide because they see no way out, and bankruptcy has been so heavily stigmatized by captial owners that they dont even consider it an option.
When companies do it, its a smart business decision, when individuals do it, its viewed as a leech on society for some god forsaken reason. Trying to further stigmatize bankruptcy is fucking pathetic, even for internet trolls.
It’s stigmatized because it’s people not making good on their word.
I’m glad there is a process (at least here in the civilized world) to control bankruptcy because it has to exist in some cases, but it’s something that should be normalised.
Already did, its normalized for companies, and looked down on by individuals, because individuals should mAkE gOoD oN tHeIr wOrD. Like I said fuck that noise.
The banks aren’t good on their word you fucking trog. They raise the interest rates after you borrow, that’s not fucking playing fair by any means. Tell me your a scumbag banker without telling me.
No they don’t. If you borrow at a variable rate, the rate will track with the reference rate (that the government changes, not the banks) both up and down.
I mean, I paid what I borrowed, and they’re still saying I owe nearly that much. Reality doesn’t jive with what you’re saying when interest rates are so high that it crushes you into a hole just for borrowing.
Unfortunately bankruptcy has been disempowered strongly. There are quite a few types of non-dischargeable debt like court rulings and student loans in the US. Credit Cards are definitely dischargeable but bankruptcy has also been made as painful as possible for working people.
Credit scores, created in the 80s, are required for any type of borrowing. Bankruptcy effectively denies the filer any type of credit or loans that aren't extremely predatory and costly. You effectively have to live 7 years without credit cards, new student loans, auto loans, mortgage, etc. Which, for many people under water might not be different than they live now, sans the credit cards. But in the absence of easy revolving credit, you may still need to borrow money to avoid eviction or your power being cut. In that case, your main option is going to be payday lenders. A service so corrupt and predatory it'd probably be classified as a criminal enterprise in the past.
Well, that's unexpected but I guess CC companies are willing to risk it. Especially if they know that CCs are the only viable option they have and they can offer penalty APRs with little pushback.
I’ve had extended family members declare bankruptcy several times and they’re still approved for a credit card. Whereas I have never missed a credit payment in my life have a hard time getting a line of credit. I don’t get it, the system is broken.
I know someone who has delcared bankruptcy at least twice… each time she was showered with ads for credit cards and auto loans. Apparently the thought process is “this person can’t declare bankruptcy again for x years, so we’re safe.”
...wtf? If a person has declared bankruptsy, sure they can't discharge again but their credit score is so trash they could just ignore creditors. As long as it isn't worth it to take someone to court, they have less incentive to pay.
Hmm let me see, buy groceries on credit, or buy no groceries and starve to death, i guess I’ll juat starve to death lmao. Glad life is going well for you friend!
If those are your only two options, buy the food. But let’s be honest here, Americans aren’t in $1 Trillion dollars of credit card debt because of groceries.
I’ll play devil’s advocate here: I’m on the side with destigmatizing credit cards, as it just propels the bank’s wallets with interest. But if you don’t have money, and absolutely must get on credit to hang on to your life, I think you should, but you should also work toward repaying the debt you’ve grown.
Edit: I’m actually curious as to why I got down voted, maybe I’m wrong somewhere, so take it with a grain of salt …
Really the only good thing about credit cards is it helps raise your credit score. I only use them for that to be able to get a decent apr on a loan.Otherwise i would never use them.
You gotta find a good one that gives travel rewards or something. We’ve had a few vacations with free flights because of ours. Of course you should only spend what you can pay off in a month but it still adds up
People are being stupid in this thread and downvoting you. Credit cards are designed to make poor people SUFFER! There are better ways to avoid starving
Agreed. Food banks are literally designed for this scenario. They exist to help people put food on the table. Few scenarios actually require credit cards. No shame in accepting help when you need it. And you can always donate later when you’re on your feet. You cant ever give back if you’re dead from starvation.
I use my debit card for almost everything and use my credit card for small things to keep the usage low if i use it at all.
True there are more. I just typically dont use it otherwise i would rack up more debt. Using my debit card is the best way for me to track my finances.
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