Jff,

It’s always weird to read stuff from the UK to do with brexit. That paper is clearly some right wing rag and the reality is that we are connected via the channel tunnel and all that this is doing is leaving us off the maps and probably the reasoble prices.

But people like to rile it up like we are missing out on some grand EU mega plan that is going to save the world. The EU has plenty of problems and is not some sort of nirvana. Would I rather be in the EU? Yes it is better to be part of something. However it is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and to be honest day to day it makes little difference to me. People in the UK are not crying into their union jack hankies, we have bigger problems like a completely corrupt and incompetent ruling class.

Mango,

Why is it better to be part of something? I hear people say that all the time like it should be obvious, but the concept repulses me.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Practical outcome in the case of the EU?

  • Relaxed borders / Easy International Travel
  • Easy to go work in another country
  • Same currency (for most of it)

Probably more but that’s what I can think of right now.

kaffiene,

“repulses”? That’s some mighty strong feelings you have there

afraid_of_zombies, (edited )

Because anti-globalism is the most widely held opinion on earth. You can find people supporting it in every country and they use the power of infrastructure built up by countries working together to spread their message. It is like some weird variant on the paradox of tolerance. A nationalist can only recirculate their unoriginal ideas because internationalism existed for so long.

A bad peace is better than a good war.

nova_ad_vitum,

Then why are you commenting by being a part of the largest network on earth?

snugglesthefalse,

Every time I hear about Brexit I’m reminded how 17 million people directly fucked up my ability to be part of something just to spite themselves. If you don’t want to be part of something then just take yourself and leave, don’t drag everyone else out too.

Mango,

If 17 million people don’t wanna be part of something, go be part of it yourself. Don’t drag everyone else in too.

You played yourself.

drekly,

A “completely corrupt and incompetent ruling class” who have much more power now, after lying to the public and getting Brexit voted in.

undercrust,

New maps for Ticket to Ride just dropped

mlg,
@mlg@lemmy.world avatar

I would unironically buy this if they really just dropped the lines from UK so it just appears on the board as a blank spot lmao

triclops6,

Technically you would still be buying it out of irony but I get your meaning

HiddenLayer5, (edited )
@HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml avatar

Wasn’t the UK govt also complaining about their tax money going into funding EU projects like this?

Strobelt,

No one said they didn’t want these kind of projects. They just didn’t want to have to pay for them.

Aceticon,

I lived in Britain during the Leave campaign and it was all about getting the benefits without the responsabilities or costs.

In fact, the sequence of political events that lead to the Leave Referendum was Britain in the EU trying to have less and less obligations whilst keeping the benefits of Membership to the point that eventually, when the UK demanded “otherwise we have a Referedum on Leave” to not to have to abide by Freedom Of Movement into their country whilst keeping all the rest including Freedom Of Movement for Britons into other EU countries, the rest of the EU said “No!”. After this, David Cammeron was under huge pressure to do the Referendum “to show the EU” and the rest is History.

The La-La-Land fantasism of the Leave side was always unbelievable, with everything from genuine expections of, post leave, having “Same Rights as Members With No Obligations”, to after Brexit “Other EU Nations will Follow Us Out”.

I would say that by this point it’s clear that whatever Britain is “showing the EU” isn’t quite what was in Leaver fantasies.

Facebones,

I’m definitely just a dumb American but I love how apparently “What is Brexit” was the biggest UK web search the day it got approved.

Tagger,

To be fair that is because it was sold to the public on outright lies and the readings of a couple of unscrupulous twats.

Johnson for example had always been pro-eu and reportedly had two articles written, one remain and one leave, and based his decision of which one to publish on which was more politically expedient for him, not on what he actually thought was better for the country.

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

Damn, they even included Ireland. Serves them right for wanting to mistreat the entire world.

Numenor,

Why would they not include Ireland?

RIP_Cheems,
@RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world avatar

I just thought the wouldn’t because of how much ocean there is between the two spots.

Maddie,
@Maddie@sh.itjust.works avatar

Now departing Fuck Around; next stop, Find Out!

doctorcrimson,

Especially true since the article comes from a paper that backed Brexit.

SplashJackson,

But Switzerland has line???

kpw,

Seems to be transit only. Also Switzerland mostly plays by EU rules.

st3ph3n,
@st3ph3n@kbin.social avatar

Switzerland participates in Schengen and the european free trade association while not being an EU member state. The UK doesn't do any of those things.

Veneroso,

Hey look! It’s find out time! Can’t wait for 2024 in the US!

A_Random_Idiot,

Scheming EU to make an EU travel plan for countries that didnt voluntarily leave the EU to pursue some racist bullshit propaganda that even the people who started brexit, deep down, didnt want, and never thought would actually happen.

Facebones,

Ericandre.gif

webbfinch89,

The channel tunnel exists so already a direct link and all the usage without having to pay for it? Abit of a win really

MonkderZweite,

Should add a few more lines to Switzerland. We do play nice with EU.

therealjcdenton,

Petty

Savaran,

I never knew the leopards would eat my face!

768,

There is this saying ‘people are not islands’ to mean people are interconnected with each other. The literal sense being applied by the last decade and by extension the last semicentennial is weird. The EU is a federation and any country can leave, but I still think Brexit was a mistake.

XEAL, (edited )

To the idiot half who voted Brexit: fuck off.

To the other half who voted against it: sorry guys.

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