SloppilyFloss,
@SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml avatar

What about America Ferrera? She matters as much as Margot Robbie and got an Oscar nomination for her role in the film.

jivandabeast,

This, its not a snub. Barbie got a nomination for both actor and actress in the supporting categories.

Goldenboy,

A woman goes out to discover herself and the world, in a movie so colorful, I constantly smiled in my seat. A man on her side that struggles with his masculinity. A parental figure that is only there for the lead to discover how far she came. A family to be part of in the end.

Poor things makes Barbies pink pale. In every aspect. Emma Stone stands without competition this year.

4grams,
@4grams@awful.systems avatar

I honestly am not pop culture literate enough to know if there is a genuine snub here or not, but I am socially aware enough that this is just so on the nose that it feels deliberate. Now, I’m not saying that it was, but come on academy, you had to be able to see this coming. In the end, these awards are subjective anyway, so a little self awareness might have been a good idea.

JDubbleu,

America Ferrera got an Oscar nomination for her performance in the movie…

crypticthree,

The Oscars have ALWAYS been bullshit. The best films of a given year rarely get nominated let alone win. Barbie made a boatload of money and Gerwig will be able to make at least a few risky projects based on its success. I wish we would all collectively ignore the Oscars because the academy contributes so little to the art of film

Crashumbc,

Yup, very often the “winner” is determined because it’s their “turn” or they deserve it more so than what they did that actual year. Leonardo Di Capero (SP?) for a great example.

AlexisFR,
@AlexisFR@jlai.lu avatar

Not always, remember how they snobbed Chadwick Boseman?

Tamo240,

I also propose Jaime Lee Curtis last year, definitely felt more like a lifetime achievement oscar than that particular role

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Pleaae dont post pictures of text. Link to it. Transcribe it. Its necessary for blind folks

CombatWombatEsq,

Sorry, I haven’t quite figured out how to set alt text on images when posting from my phone quite yet — the website is easy because the entry box allows markdown, but my mobile client doesn’t seem to have a box for it? I’m working on figuring it out. But my understanding is that, with good alt text, pictures of text are fine for blind folks?

tja,
@tja@sh.itjust.works avatar

What is your mobile client?

CombatWombatEsq,

I use Memmy

library_napper,
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

Just write it in the body

LotrOrc,

Honestly Barbie just wasn’t a good movie and it really shouldn’t have gotten any nominations

It was over hyped and it was trash marketing for Matel.

And if you guys watched the movie it literally ended with Ryan gosling learning absolutely no lessons and just being like oh ok I can act like a dick and I’ll still get what I want?

Killers of the flower moon was far far better than both Oppenheimer and Barbie. Honestly don’t think Oppenheimer should have received so many nominations either.

yarr,

Maybe if it had a better plot in the first place, it would have attracted more awards. This movie will be forgotten in a decade or less.

Mr_Rosewater,

Greta did get nominated though…

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Sigh.

Still “Esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress Margot Robbie” for now.

Stanwich,

I believe in you!

RizzRustbolt,

You and Rhea Pearlman, just hanging out at the Oscars…

MystikIncarnate,

It’s such a shame about their eyesight.

MargotRobbie,
@MargotRobbie@lemmy.world avatar

Also, appreciate the sentiment from the picture, but still annoyed people can’t get my name right.

At least it’s not “Margo with a T” this time.

HerbalGamer,
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

Margeaux

JackbyDev,

Mary Robby

RememberTheApollo_,
CaptainEffort,

Kind of a weird thing for him to say imo. It’s not like they got snubbed, this year was just really stacked, and the other nominations being filled with other incredibly talented women shows that. Be happy for them, don’t put a damper on their achievements because you’re upset that your co-star didn’t get nominated.

Obviously I get that he can’t help how he feels, but making this whole statement just feels like an odd choice.

MystikIncarnate,

I don’t follow your logic.

He’s saying that without the leading actors of the film being who they are - simply, the extremely talented people they they are - he wouldn’t have had a movie in which to act (the Barbie movie) to shine and gain the honor of being nominated.

More to the point, him being nominated when they are not, is, in and of itself, ironic; on several levels.

His entire sentiment here is that they should have had recognition for their roles in a very culturally relevant film, in which they did really great work. They commanded the screen in a way that few can. The entire thing pivots around the leading characters.

Honestly, I couldn’t give two fucks about how stacked the year was. If you examine mentions of films in news, social media, and other sources where people discuss movies, the Barbie movie would be mentioned a lot more than pretty much any other. And yet, the headlining character, played by an amazingly talented young woman, didn’t get nominated?

Bluntly, I’m surprised his comments were this restrained. If I was in his shoes I would have told them to take their nomination and shove it. It clearly doesn’t mean anything if they won’t even give a nomination to Margot. Her performance was picture perfect as far as I’m concerned.

echoplex21,

Honestly the Lead Actress Category was stacked this year. Emma Stone played a very similar role but was far more complex. Why are people also forgetting that America Ferrera was also nominated ? Best Director is also a smaller pool than Best Picture where it was nominated. It looks bad on optics but if people actually watched all the movies they would know that each of the actresses nominated deserved it . It’s not like they gave the nomination to a man lol

june,

I’m definitely annoyed by the lack of praise for America. She was brilliant in the role and personified the movie. Margo played the means to tell the story, but America was the story. Don’t get me wrong, Margo was amazing and deserved a nomination too, but so did America who seems to be forgotten in the whole mess of the movie for some reason. She had the single most impactful scene in the movie with her monologue about how hard it is to be a woman.

beefcat,
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

Gerwig also still got a nomination for the screenplay, so it’s not like she was completely snubbed

beefcat, (edited )
@beefcat@lemmy.world avatar

Not surprised Robbie didn’t get a Best Actress nomination, but I really felt Gerwig was a shoo-in for Best Director. Gerwig can still walk away with Best Picture and/or Best Adapted Screenplay though, so it doesn’t feel like a total snub.

Couplqnd,

With all of is controversy with the Barbie movie and nominations next year we might see an expansion of the pool of nominations

Smaller how TDK changed how the best picture nomination was awarded but we could do the same thing for actor and actress nominations. After 2008 a lot of people felt that the dark night was snub for best picture, so the academy changed the number of nominations that could be awarded for best picture. Originally only five movies could be nominated for best picture but after 2008 the minimum number of best picture nominees was 10. a few years later 10 was too much so they changed it to minimum 5 and maximum of 10 nominations. I think that’s a good compromise because some years have very good performances while other years have mediocre, but you can definitely find five performances that outshined everyone else and having a maximum of 10 nominations limits the number of people that can be nominated.

I personally think we should remove the gendered nominations for acting actresses and instead separate them by age. Same way how the Grammys removed gender nominations, but instead for the academy. If you separate them by age, it makes more sense. Most older actors and actresses can’t play roles that are for younger actors and actresses and vice versa for young artists. It is also more inclusive for trans and non-binary artists. It also evens the playing field a little bit because generally speaking older performers have more experience so it’s harder for younger performers to be nominated.

tomatolung,

Great thoughts and proposals. Thank your for the history, insight, and forethought!

Cringe2793,

personally think we should remove the gendered nominations for acting actresses

No this would be a bad idea. Then any time a man won (or got nominated like Ryan here), people will be like “omg patriarchy”. Look at what’s happening now. They’re not even nominated in the same category, and people are bitching. It’s gonna be so much worse if this is implemented. Men can’t get nominated at all.

96VXb9ktTjFnRi,

Love cinema, don’t care about Oscars in the slightest.

BigBenis,

Barbie was good. But my expectations going into it were greatly inflated by all the hype around it… Which sadly left me disappointed by it.

RubberElectrons,
@RubberElectrons@lemmy.world avatar

It happens to all these movies. Nice when you stumble across an unheard of underground film, but then the flip happens: “HOW DOES NOBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS??”

astral_avocado,

Like legitimately one of the best parts is Ken and his dance number, the director went hard on that and fucking aced it. I don’t remember much else from the film and about Barbie tbh

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