rip_art_bell,
@rip_art_bell@lemmy.world avatar

Good.

LazyBane,

Doesn’t help that sex keeps being written into shows where it doesn’t belong.

It’s trying to make a show “more adult” in literally the most childish way possible.

That Halo show is a good example of completely needless sex scenes.

loobkoob,
@loobkoob@kbin.social avatar

I'd completely forgotten about the Halo show in general, and now you've just reminded me of Master Cheeks all over again :(

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Every show needs a romantic subplot. Its fundamental to the marketing.

HawlSera,

All I know about the Halo show is that it ignores the entirety of the Halo lore in order to basically try to be a note for note rip off of the Mandalorian. But the fact that it has sex scenes bothers me, I mean isn’t it cannon that the Spartan project killed Master Chiefs libido and therefore he is effectively asexual?

LazyBane,

The rate at which the Spartan II augmentations killed people’s sex drive is overstated quite a bit, but yeah Chief doesn’t really show to have much of a libido (from what I’ve read, only at Ghosts of Onyx so far), and having this alternate version of Chief be so unhinged as to bang a POW really goes against canon Chief’s single minded dedication to his missions.

DunkelLicht,

It never bothered me as a kid, but now for some reason I get triggered by the way Hollywood portrays romance. Why is everyone such a HUGE slut? It’s such a huge turn off. It is actually really hard to find a film that portrays a healthy loving monogamous relationship.

MinusPi,
@MinusPi@yiffit.net avatar

Defining a healthy relationship as strictly monogamous

starcat,

That’s not the only way to interpret it. I read it as “healthy AND loving AND monogamous”, meaning monogamous relationships do get tons of recognition, but they’re often very unhealthy relationships.

geophysicist,

Bit sensitive? That charity wasn’t what they were saying

HawlSera,

Ok grandpa

CurlyMoustache,
@CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world avatar

Hint: you should stop watching orgy porn

Duamerthrax,

Turns out, the people who have private sex islands have a terrible view on relationships.

It’s not even just about the sex scenes. How many loving sitcom couples/families routinely lie to each other?

ArcaneSlime,

I gave up on movies in like '09. No I do not want to see your 5,000th Marvel movie or remake of an 80s movie, regardless of sex scenes, thanks.

terny,

There’s been great movies made, not all movies are giant studios trying to maximize profits.

520,

But where do we go to find them?

terny,

Look at movies that go through film festivals like Cannes or Sundance.

520,

Good tips and I'll write them down

ArcaneSlime,

Tbf I do know that, I have a small “I’ll get to it” list. I’m done with theatres though.

Off the top of my head the list is

1917 Dune

Other than that I do like troma and dumb stuff like that.

HawlSera,

As much as I like the Marvel movies, or rather did, the problem is that they were never a series of movies, and it could be argued that they should not be taken seriously as pieces of Cinema at least as far as movies are concerned. Because they are not movies, it’s more of a continuous show where all the episodes are very long and very expensive. None of them can truly be considered a self-contained experience. Which is a problem the comic book industry faces all the time as they need to continuously find ways to keep things recognizable yet continuously moving in new directions, there isn’t a chance to actually sit down and tell and develop a single story like there is for manga

wilberfan,
@wilberfan@lemmy.world avatar

That’s oddly about the time I started to become disenchanted with most contemporary cinema. Both parents worked in the Industry, dad was a voting member of the Academy for many years. The Oscars were–no exaggeration–the Holiest night on our family calendar. I even got to attend in person once. (The one where Benigni climbed up on the furniture–'99.)

Then THE ARTIST won best picture (2011). 🤦‍♂️

I stopped watching the Oscars completely about 5 years ago. The only enthusiasm I can muster anymore is new films by old masters (PTA, Scorsese, Tarantino, etc.)

IHaveTwoCows,

Maybe now Guillermo DelToro can make “In The Mountains Of Madness”, his dream oroject which kept getting rejected because “there is no love interest in the story”. FUCK HOLLYWOOD.

Meanwhile, younger generations are getting all kinds of ass without any psychotic inhibitions so a sex scene just looks stupid to them, and has nothing to do with the story.

HawlSera,

I don’t think they’re getting all kinds of ass, I mean in cells are still a thing

IHaveTwoCows,

Incels have always existed; they simply have a bullhorn now.

zipzoopaboop,

Just make something that isn’t the exact same fucking thing I’ve seen 12 times, fuck

nomecks, (edited )

I think Team America: World Police proved that boring Hollywood sex isn’t what the people want.

Mamertine,

It makes the studio money so it’s what gets green lit. Trying something new is risk. If could tank. Status quo FTL.

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Recycling scripts and dragging 80 year old actors out of retirement makes for cheaper SEO and a higher gross from millennials/boomers.

New shit is risky, which means lower yield into the next quarter.

Also, copywriter/contract laws require media to use it or lose it. So you’re going to get an X-Men movie every five years whether you like it or not.

Natanael,

Copyright is NOT use it or lose it. Franchising licensing contracts might occasionally have such terms but that’s not the primary reason, these companies just don’t like risk

UnderpantsWeevil,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Franchising licensing contracts might occasionally have such terms

X-Men and Spiderman both revert to Marvel if they aren’t used… I want to say every five years.

Fantastic Four was acquired by Disney in '19, so that one is a moot point.

HawlSera,

Actually I think they have the same problem with it we Millennials do, and that we don’t find it Charming when a guy acts like a total creep and is rewarded for it because the movie was written by total creeps. Or if our lead is a woman, I’m tired of hearing about how successful and fulfilled she is with her brilliant career that no one takes seriously, because she hasn’t found the right man yet, but then she does and discovers that all of her problems are solved by his penis. Because those movies are also made by creeps

Syringe,

I was thinking this too. Also, not EVERYTHING needs to have a love story jammed into it. There are so many situations that you can tell they shoehorned one in in order to pull a specific demo and it’s totally not necessary for the story

npz,

Different times. When I was growing up, a sex scene in a movie might be one of very few opportunities where you got to see a pair of boobs, unless you could get someone to buy you a porno magazine or VHS tape. These days, there are probably millions of options in this area, instantly accessible. And Hollywood-produced nude/sex scenes are all going to be fake and cringy in comparison.

Grant_M,
@Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

Whatever happened to great movies like Breakfast Club? (I’m gen-x)

outer_spec,
@outer_spec@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think the phrase “amatonormativity” should be more well-known, I think it would be pretty relevant in this discussion.

finkrat,

We can tell when a movie is being sold by the one sex scene in it and if that is the case, there isn’t much value to the movie

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