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EmergMemeHologram, in Gaza war's staggering toll reaches a grim milestone: 20,000 dead

That’s nearly 1% of the total population.

sndmn, in The plight of Gaza’s ‘WCNSFs’ – wounded child, no surviving family: A chilling acronym used by aid workers reflects the reality of a conflict in which 40% of casualties are believed to be minors

Israel has managed an incredible feat! They’ve managed to make Hamas look like the “good guys”.

derbis, in Heads of 3 top US colleges refuse to say calling for genocide of Jews is harassment

I was hoping we weren’t going to have to put up with this propaganda crapola off Reddit. Oh well.

gus,

It’s especially disappointing given the mission statement of beehaw. You know, the one they require every user to read when signing up and write a statement about?

… we grew increasingly upset with modern social media. Modern social media has become a breeding ground for hate speech, for trolls, and for bad behavior. We don’t want to recreate that environment. We want to explicitly make a nice little corner of the internet where we can hide from racist, sexist, ableist, colonialist, homophobic, transphobic, and other forms of hateful speech.

t3rmit3, in Israel storms Khan Younis in southern Gaza, killing scores

A doctor carried the small limp body of a dead boy in a tracksuit and placed him in a corner, arms splayed across the blood-smeared tile. On the floor nearby, surrounded by discarded bandages and rubber gloves, lay a wounded boy and girl, their limbs tangled with the stands holding IV drips in their arms.

Two young girls were being treated, still covered in dust from the collapse of the house that had buried their family.

“My parents are under the rubble,” sobbed one. “I want my mum, I want my mum, I want my family.”

If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention.

ConstableJelly, in Fears raised after Hong Kong journalist fails to return from China trip

Worked at the paper for 18 years, good. But it’s owned by Alibaba Holdings in China, bad. The paper claims they’re in the contact with family and have confirmed she’s safe and taking time for personal issues, good. But her friends, colleagues, and Hong Kong Journalists Association remain concerned for her safety, bad.

I don’t know anything about all the elements at play here but it certainly sounds suspicious.

jmcs,

Why are they in contact with the family and not with the reporter directly? It’s not like we are 1823 and communication has to be sent on precious missives traversing dangerous seas.

ConstableJelly,

Theoretically, should an emergency occur, I may contact one close acquaintance, like a family member, and ask that they notify anyone else who needs to know, like work, so that I don’t have to provide updates through multiple channels all the time. Or I don’t feel like answering questions about something private to someone, like my boss, who has no business with the details.

That part doesn’t strike me as suspicious, but the persisting concern from friends and colleagues (as well as the potential unreliability of the paper’s representatives) does.

jarfil, (edited )

It says she previously worked at the Apple Daily… wasn’t that an “”“extremist”“” paper linked to the detention of that one lady for screaming at an apple in public?

theguardian.com/…/hong-kong-grandma-wong-arrested…

RandoCalrandian, in Anger across Italy as killing of student highlights country’s femicide rate
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Still a minuscule fraction of its androcide rate, but don’t expect people to give a shit

jarfil,

Not really following what’s going on in Italy, what is the rate of males killed by their ex-girlfriends?

RandoCalrandian, (edited )
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Are we counting all the suicides due to the ex girlfriend’s actions, or the ones who die in situations instigated by women, like when she lies about something and the males in her family seek retribution? Those stats seem suspiciously absent from articles like these. Proxy violence is routinely ignored

If we’re going to advocate against domestic violence, we should include all its forms and not carefully gerrymander the definition

Shirone,

Me when I see a serious issue being brought up “BuT wHaT aBoUt ThAt OtHeR iSsUe”

Feel free to make a post about androcide, to start a conversation and get data, but only ever bringing it up when femicides are discussed is a tactic that only serves to stall conversations and make sure nothing gets done for anyone.

RandoCalrandian, (edited )
@RandoCalrandian@kbin.social avatar

Or people could stop making not gendered issues into gendered issues, like the sexist fucks they are. There’s a very specific and insidious reason the narrative has switched from “domestic violence” to “violence against women” despite women being provably more safe than men in 99% of contexts, and only a minuscule fraction of deaths by violence. It’s a sexist intentional exclusion of an entire gender, for no good reason.

But you do you!

Shirone,

Ah yes, the famous sexism against dudes that every Italian man experiences in their daily life. In a country where famously women’s privilege has always trumped men and 99% of men are suffering from domestic abuse. I quite remember it too having grown up in Rome and Naples.

My man, Italy has always had a massive issue with femicides and violence against women. There’s an article right there above these comments with some numbers to start with, there are other sources as well. I’d be happy to see the numbers for 99% of cases where men are being abused by their partner more than women, and if the issue is indeed this massive than please make a post and let’s discuss it as well as how to fix it. I’m sure you’ve been discussing it and trying to do something about it every day, but bringing it up when the very gendered issue of femicides in Italy is brought up is just bad form, please link me to your post!

Eggyhead, (edited )
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Just curious. Why do you think young men turn to violence when they feel like they’ve lost control of a situation? Do you think they do it because it’s just in their nature, or because many might have found themselves in situations where discussion gets ignored, pleading makes things worse, running inspires pursuit, and aggression made it all stop?

I’m not saying this to diminish the problem of domestic violence against women, or as an attempt to argue against any of the statistics. I just think angrily blaming men for violence rather than attempting to understand how such a problem manifests in the first place will not make anything safer for anyone.

(I hope I don’t regret jumping in on this discussion.)

Shirone,

Oh by all means there’s really no problem if you’re genuine in your question. And yes it’s 100% undeniable that all the issues are linked to one another just because society do be like that. But my issue with the other guy is that whataboutism is a real tactic that halts discussions and it really felt like they were in bad faith assessing that 99% of times men recieved more conjugal violence than women.

Anywya yeah to get back on point your question is absolutely valid! And actual movement for social change and feminism doesn’t just angrily blame men with no reason, toxic male socialization is a real problem for men as well as women, stunting their emotional growth/fostering anger as the only good emotion/not allowing them to express themselves while simultaneously putting a lot of pressure on being “a real man” that gets the girl, gets the job done without complaining and makes money while having time for family. It’s extremely harmful especially with the existence of “alpha male” gurus preying on those feelings. Italy has a double wammy of the religion with the church and the Vatican being right there and it’s influence is very strong. These men need help and the unfair hand they’re dealt to be addressed. However only ever bringing it up when women’s issues are brought up is a bad faith use of a legitimate issue only aimed at stunting progress and conversation. Maybe it’s not the most elegant example but the barbie movie of last summer is an interesting example of a piece of media that addresses the fact that certain types of male socialization is harmful to everyone if you can approach it with an open mind.

There’s also an argument to be made for the point that women issues are also a touch more sensitive because while men do overall die the more brutal deaths and the most often, it is also due to the man dominated world we have created.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

I sincerely appreciate you taking the time to type all that up. I feel like I better understand your perspective, and I generally agree with it.

barsoap, (edited )

Maybe it’s not the most elegant example but the barbie movie of last summer is an interesting example of a piece of media that addresses the fact that certain types of male socialization is harmful to everyone if you can approach it with an open mind.

Imagine the same points being made in a different movie, without all that Barbie Girl Power. In a movie not marketed towards gals. Just doesn’t happen. Pretty much all the male hero arcs in (non-kid) media are geared towards the female gaze and phantasies, not issues actual men face. And why not of course we live in capitalism and that’s what sells the most tickets. No, “guy saves the day” doesn’t really get men off, by and large “the roof for once doesn’t need fixing and I can kick back” is way more attractive.

while simultaneously putting a lot of pressure on being “a real man” that gets the girl,

Meanwhile, gals are asking “where are all the real men gone”. Everyone is willing to tell you versions of “this is how it works” without actually understanding the issue, from “just open up” (which gets you ignored at best, cast out at worst), to “just punch everything”, which of course also doesn’t work.

There is a distinct lack of solutions, or even a desire to build a new tradition of behaviour that does not require ideological buy-in, or only works for abusive couples (like Dworkin and her victim). Things that align with instinct. E.g. you can’t simply demand non-violence and then only look at physical violence: What’s a guy to do if a gal becomes psychologically abusive? That’s the point where “Real men don’t hit woman, we tickle” then suddenly makes a ton of sense. You don’t get to attack me at my weak spot and not get a proportional response.

My two cents? Difference feminism has been dismissed prematurely. Of course, get rid of all the ancient toxic normative shit the groups that brought it up brought with them, but fail to include difference on a fundamental level and well-meant but absolutely counterproductive advise such as “just open up” will never vanish due to a structural incapability to see the other side as you insist that it’s the same as you: Way worse than essentialising a banana as a banana is essentialising it as an apple. That’s also how you get shit like the new Mulan: Because apparently the only way a gal can ever achieve anything is to be born magical so that she can fight like a guy. I mean it kinda works as a transmasc egg fantasy but they should’ve just kept the old story, or, better yet, not make a re-make at all, as the old story did show how a gal can, indeed, save the day, with brains and guts instead of brawn or magic (and of course the new one’s a Mary Sue but I wanted to complain about theme, not just shoddy writing). Am I beginning to rant? Probably better stop.

jarfil,

Female suicide, or the jealous ex killing a new partner, are not included either.

Domestic violence is a complex issue that “should” include, and address, a lot of cases that it currently doesn’t, but for some there is not even an idea on how to start addressing them… so I think it makes sense to tackle the obvious ones first: homicides.

Once we get that sorted out, with no more people thinking that “their” mate is “theirs” to do what they please with, like they do with “their” kids or “their” dogs, including putting them down whenever they wish… we might be able to get to the next issue.

library_napper, in Israel, Hamas agree on four-day truce, hostage release and aid into Gaza
@library_napper@monyet.cc avatar

How long after their release will Israel kidnap those released again?

raccoona_nongrata,
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I mean, can you really kidnap people who are already in an open air prison that you use as a bombing range?

library_napper,
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The prisoners include Palestinians from the West Bank. Gaza is the open air prison.

raccoona_nongrata, (edited )
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Gaza is in far worse of a state, yeah, but make no mistake that Palestine is under Israeli control as well. Every aspect of Palestinian life is subject to Israeli rule.

I think this is one of the biggest misunderstandings that gets exploited by the Israeli far-right; Palestine is not a country, it does not have independence or autonomy. Even Hamas itself is a consequence of Israeli influence.

I’m not trying to be argumentative or anything, but it’s really important that people understand the dynamic of power in that region. We’ve been lied about the reality for years to make it seem like this is a “both sides” kind of scenario.

library_napper,
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The term “open air prison” was what human rights groups (iirc amnesty international) used to describe Gaza. I dont know of any creditable international human rights groups that have referred to the west bank as an “open air prison” in their reports on the region.

raccoona_nongrata,
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Movement restricted, pushed from their homes by colonizers, crops torn up when they try to subsist themselves, murdered with no recourse.

Yes, it’s a prison. It doesn’t really matter if CNN told you so or not.

library_napper, (edited )
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Dont confuse human rights NGOs with shitty center right corporate media.

Do you actually confuse the two?

Spitzspot, in Richest 1% account for more carbon emissions than poorest 66%, report says
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When do we eat?

CrimeDad, in U.S. President Biden says "Gaza and the West Bank should be reunited under single government" and "extremist violence against Palestinians in the West Bank must stop"

What a joke. I love how he uses the passive voice to describe IDF war crimes, but Hamas gets the active. They’re going to try and do regime change in Gaza, but Hamas is not the beginning or end of Palestinian armed resistance. What we really need is regime change in Israel.

As for Ukraine, I think that’s a lost cause and nothing Biden says convinces me otherwise. The enthusiasm for Israel just isn’t there for Ukraine in this piece.

deegeese, in Prominent settler leader pushes Netanyahu to rebuild Israeli homes in Gaza

See, there’s the “ethnic cleansing” Israel wanted all along!

Oppress Palestinians, they fight back, so now you can bomb them and steal their homes.

library_napper, in Nepal bans TikTok and says it disrupts social harmony
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Nepal has banned all pornographic sites in 2018.

Hahahahaha, no. I was in Nepal and definitely watched porn. The censor must have been terrible because I didn’t even know it existed.

So, yeah, tiktok won’t be banned then.

sandriver, (edited ) in Australia offers climate refuge to Tuvalu citizens

I can’t really bee nice here, so pardon the language, but as a second generation Fijian Australian…

Fucking LMAO. Australia is an outsized emitter of greenhouse gasses, let alone the hidden emissions caused by how much oil and gas we export. Scott Morrison, the former PM, even went to the Pacific forum during his incumbency and essentially mocked them regarding this. This turn from the Labor government is probably one of the starkest demonstrations of liberal diversionary political theatre and colonial violence.

Absolutely revolting.

Titan, in Will Israel shut down Al Jazeera?

Didn’t they straight up missile strike one of their one time?

bingbong,

They’ve murdered aljazeera journalists and other journalistic organizations on multiple occasions. Including directly assassinating Shireen Abu akleh, bombing the family of the Gaza chief correspondent, and bombing the AP headquarters in a previous conflict.

Murdering Shireen Abu Akleh - 2022

Bombing the family of the Gaza chief correspondent while he was away working - current conflict

“They take revenge on us in our children?” he said, kneeling over his son’s bloodied body, still wearing his protective press vest from that day’s work.

Bombing AP headquarters - 2021

Every journalist covering the conflict within Gaza and Lebanon is risking their own lives and that of their family members so we can know what’s going on. In my opinion, they’re not getting the respect they deserve from the international community.

Titan,

Israel and all their fash supporters lost my respect long ago.

I had a tiny bit of hope that Biden would somehow turn around the US after finally withdrawing from Afghanistan, but I see now that the US, including Biden, is still the bloodthirsty war criminals they’ve always been.

Tamo, in Don’t fall into the trap of ‘picking sides’ over Gaza: Hamas’s attacks were unconscionable, razing Gaza to the ground would be abhorrent. In both cases, basic humanity is at stake --- [Opinion]

Not a fan of the framing here, ‘were’ vs ‘would be’ as if the later is just a hypothetical rather than the reality of civilians in Gaza.

Five, in Don’t fall into the trap of ‘picking sides’ over Gaza: Hamas’s attacks were unconscionable, razing Gaza to the ground would be abhorrent. In both cases, basic humanity is at stake --- [Opinion]

Slavoj Zizek gave a compelling speech along these lines. The reaction from the crowd and the heckling are really revealing about how divorced even progressive audiences have become from humanity.

MayonnaiseArch,
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Yeah, I thought the default opinion would be that killing is bad. The pearl-clutching at the idea of not killing, it’s fucked up

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