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sdx, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend

Video of a Hamas rocket launch and subsequent IDF strike

Many videos out of the Gaza strip have the constant hum of surveillance drones in the background, it’s interesting to see the drone’s perspective for a change.

Seathru,

it’s interesting to see the drone’s perspective for a change.

The Russia/Ukraine conflict has really shown the drone’s place on the battlefield. It’s awesome; and terrifying.

alyaza, in Document of Hamas that ordered the murder of civilians and their kidnapping
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put it in the megathread, please and thanks

AllNewTypeFace, in US says North Korea delivered 1,000 containers of equipment and munitions to Russia for Ukraine war
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I call bullshit. Russia doesn’t use shipping containers.

alyaza, in Israel-Palestine megathread for the remainder of the weekend
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alyaza,
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HumbleFlamingo, in US says North Korea delivered 1,000 containers of equipment and munitions to Russia for Ukraine war

Like shipping containers, or cardboard boxes of bullets?

emma, in France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
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A Jewish teacher was killed by her student in France today because of Hamas’ call for a “Day of Rage”.

Hirom, (edited )

There’s little doubt of the attacker motive given he invoked his god, and given the timing. But nothing suggest the teacher was personally targeted for his faith. He may have been the first person the attacker ran into.

There have been a few articles about Dominique Bernard, the teacher who fell victim. AFP/Sud Ouest talk about his professional life and character. France Bleu says students like him, and that he interposed himself between the attacker and others. Neither suggest he was targeted for his faith, or even mention his faith at all.

Update: La Croix/AFP quote a few people who knew the victim, speaking highly of him, and say the victim is member of a familiy of “enlightened Catholics”

emma,
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Someone died because of the Day of Rage. Apologies for my error. But go on, make sure we all know he was a great Catholic. Cause you know, if he’d been Jewish, there would be plenty on the platform making justifications for it.

Hirom,

I only mentioned his familiy’s faith because you mentioned it. This murder is front page news and talked at length by medias, but your comment is the first time I heard of his supposed faith, so I went and checked.

It would be interesting to understand the motivation. This might be an attack on the school as an institution, which affects people of all faith.

There’s no justification for killing innocent civilians, Jewish or not.

Rapidcreek, in US says North Korea delivered 1,000 containers of equipment and munitions to Russia for Ukraine war

So while Ukraine relies on the US, Germany, Poland, Czechia, Italy, France, the UK…

Russia relies on… checks notes Iran and the DPRK

agressivelyPassive,

To be fair, the US lost against North Korea before!

ours,

But only with the direct intervention of China.

Mambert,

And democrats founded the kkk.

but what about now?

ndsvw,
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Why calling it DPRK? There is nothing democratic over there…

Karzyn,

It’s the official name of the country.

JohnEdwa,

Iran is officially the Islamic Republic of Iran too, though. Most countries are like that. Republic of Finland, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, Federal Republic of Germany, Russian Federation etc.

ParanoidFactoid, (edited ) in Ex-Human Rights Watch chief - Israel violating humanitarian law in Gaza
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  • Hirom,

    Do you happen to have any source for these reports?

    Latework,

    There is no source because they made it up. The closest thing I could find is this news.yahoo.com/wagner-mercenaries-involved-traini…Which states wagner group may have trained Hamas fighters according to this report …gov.ua/instruktory-pvk-vagner-gotuvaly-hamas-do-…

    SenorBolsa,
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    It’s an interesting theory. Big if true. It just seems far too risky when you know most of the western world still supports Israel.

    Though if you can pull it off, wow, and they could probably have predicted that it would cause a lot of internal division among Americans which only benefits Russia.

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    I_am_10_squirrels, in Drivers stunned by sudden shutdown of Michigan trucking company

    If the money is held in escrow, then it can’t (shouldn’t?) be used for anything else. If the owner cannot afford to pay it back, then it sounds like it wasn’t really being held in escrow - it was being mingled with other funds.

    cupcakezealot, in France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
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    France go two seconds without being Islamophobic challenge

    Jaysyn, in Israel orders unprecedented evacuation of 1 million in Gaza as possible ground offensive looms
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    Evacuation to where?

    SomeGuyNamedPaul,

    Considering the end goal is obviously genocide, the ocean?

    blewit,

    That’s not the end goal. The end goal is security for the Israeli people. If Palestinians choose peace, they’d have it. They have not chosen that path yet.

    muse,
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    Is that before or after the constant genocide?

    blewit,

    Genocide has a definition and it clearly doesn’t apply here. Please stop spreading misinformation.

    NoIWontPickaName,

    Ok. They are trying to eliminate all people of a certain belief system in a certain area after stealing their land and killing innocents and children... Oh shit that sounds a lot like genocide to me.

    blewit,

    Israel is not trying to eliminate people of a belief system. Their objective is to eliminate Hamas, whose charter is to destroy Israel, and in Saturday’s attack demonstrated they’ll do it without remorse in the most cruel ways.

    Stormyfemme,

    Then why are they using white phosphorus on civilians?

    blewit,

    They aren’t using it as a weapon. It is a dual use tool and they aren’t using it to harm civilians.

    hassanmckusick,
    saplyng,
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    God, just remembering the scene in spec ops makes me want to cry. It's wholly inhuman to use white phosphorus

    photonic_sorcerer,
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    Thing is, even if the people want peace there’s no one to deliver it. Their leadership has no interest in negotiating with the state of Israel that they see as illegitimate.

    NoIWontPickaName,

    And Israel is the same way so that is a double edged sword.

    blewit,

    That’s simply not correct and easily verifiable. Don’t spread misinformation.

    ram,
    @ram@bookwormstory.social avatar

    Then verify it.

    blewit,

    Not engaging with someone unwilling to educate themself on the topic they are arguing.

    ram,
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    Not verifying after making a false claim.

    acastcandream,

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  • blewit,

    That’s something that needs to be worked out, but Israeli leaders have been ready for that for years. For sure they Israelis would accept that.

    NoIWontPickaName,

    So for decades Israel has been pushing people out of their homes and killing their children, they have killed journalists.

    Now, they told everyone to get out of gaza then bombed the crossing, they shut off power, water, sanitation, food, medicines, and shutdown god only knows how many machines that were keeping people alive because they do not run without electricity...

    What part of what I said is untrue?

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  • blewit,

    it’s terrible that the Palestinians chose Hamas as their leaders. It’s terrible the Hamas chose war. They’ve had opportunity after opportunity for peace.

    But they chose was, to attack Israelis in their homes, in a peace party, in the street. To slaughter them like animals. That’s unhinged behavior.

    agarorn,

    Please look up how many of the currently living people in Gaza were able to vote back in 2006(?) when the last election was.

    Irrc 50% of the population now is under 18, so people under 35 should make up 70% or more.

    Your statement is just false.

    alyaza,
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    this is effectively saying “all Palestinians deserve to be killed because of who their leadership is” which is not really acceptable.

    java,

    From the authors of “Why don’t Russians/Iranians/North Koreans/etc. overthrow their regimes? It’s a simple choice.”

    ram,
    @ram@bookwormstory.social avatar

    The end goal is security for the Israeli people.

    This is nearly a certain white supremacist dogwhistle. Don’t trust people who want to murder an entire people for the sake of “security” of other people. That’s how ethnic cleanses and genocides are justified.

    blewit,

    You connected two unrelated ideas.

    Israel wants security for the people of Israel. Ideally, this is peace with their neighbors. Hamas has chosen war. Israel has no choice but the take action.

    ram,
    @ram@bookwormstory.social avatar

    And this action must be extermination of the people of Palestine. If you’re going to say it, say all of it. Stop dancing around what you’re advocating.

    blewit,

    Don’t put words in my mouth. I’m absolutely not saying that. Let me be clear: Palestinians should have a state and live peacefully as neighbors of Israel.

    However, as of now, the Palestinian leadership is fracture and (in the case of Hamas) undeniably barbaric. The Palestinians need to choose better leaders and take themselves to freedom and peace they deserve.

    ram,
    @ram@bookwormstory.social avatar

    When do they choose their leaders? They’ve not had an election in over a decade.

    blewit,

    Agreed! Neither in the West Bank where Fatah rules, not in Gaza where Hamas rules, have they had elections in more than a decade.

    The Palestinians should demand an election.

    alyaza,
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    The Palestinians should demand an election.

    may i ask why is it your presumption they haven’t been doing this?

    hassanmckusick,

    Yeah Hamas def made those Israeli settlers steal Palestinian homes /s

    blewit,

    The Palestinians and the UN were given clear instructions as to where they should go that they would be safe.

    Steve,

    Which is?

    CurlyWurlies4All,
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    Remember the partition of India? Remember the Nakba?

    Telling 1 million people that they no longer have a home never ends well.

    edm00se,
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    Per the linked article “toward the southern part of the besieged territory”, which seems awfully vague for a major displacement of people.

    heliodorh, in France bans all pro-Palestinian demonstrations
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    Of course, French went out and protested anyway, lol. Did they really think they can stop the spirit of resistance in France of all places? It’s laughable. The government may be going off the deep end, but that doesn’t mean all French are, thank God.

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