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nrbray, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

Syncthing FairMail FreeOTP+ Markor Voyager APK Explorer Kiss launcher Nekogram X Bitwarden

inspxtr, (edited ) in Enshittification of GitHub?

Hold up, are you sure you can’t view Discussions or Wiki? Which sites can you not view them?

I’m fine viewing them for public repos that I usually visit.

Asking to make sure that Github is not slowly rolling out this lockdown.

antrosapien,

Most probably. I was viewing discussions about podman, I could view them if directily opened from a link but it required login when navigated to linked pages and wiki

FriendBesto, (edited ) in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?

It really comes down to what is your use case. Also, a bit of a mindset change since you have to do a bit more research on some apps yourself, nothing too bad, like checking on the App’s Github if they have one, to see issues or bugs. Some of which may apply to you… or not. F-Droid has a link for most apps on their app.

Personally, I removed almost all apps on my phone that have ads and/or improved privacy in one way or another.

I used to use Nova but I found KISS launcher or it’s fork TinyBit Launcher much better. Why? Because I do a lot of searches and liked that it is search focused and you can add all types of different searches once you know the proper syntax. From Wikipedia, to Youtube, to Searxng, to Dictionaries or DuckDuckGo, you can add almost all search engines. The app is really, really light on resources and it does what I want it to do.

I dropped all Google products, rooted my phone and removed them off my phone along with Google Play Services. Avoid all apps with any trackers. Albeit I still have a couple that I still need. But it is a great improvement.

Use K9 for mail, OpenVPN in lieu of my VPN provider’s app, BraveNewPipe or NewPipe w/Sponsor block for Youtube and other services. Use Mull instead of Firefox, due to being more privacy focused. Eternity for Lemmy, as a, well, Lemmy client.

KDEconnect to send/ping/transfer/control PC’s and phones over local Wifi. It’s free. Now, I know that many people may not use it, but I set up a Nextcloud Instance on my server and thus have Notes, Maps, RSS reader, File and Bookmarks Sync all through that by using their free apps. All available for free from F-Droid. But you do need a server.

Also, Termux as terminal. You can do lots with it due to all the apps and services you can install and run. I used to run a Searx instance from my phone and I used that to search along with my VPN.

For weather I use either QuickWeather or Geometric Weather, with icons you can get for free from the Playstore.

Midnitte, (edited ) in Enshittification of GitHub?

They also added some crappy requirements to their student benefit package. student benefit package

Are you trying to get people to use it, or trying to get people to accidentally keep paying a subscription?

GenderNeutralBro, in Enshittification of GitHub?

The only thing surprising is that it took Microsoft almost three years to turn on the shit-spigot.

antrosapien,

You gotta embrace first

dinckelman, in Enshittification of GitHub?

I don’t really feel like self-hosting a Git instance is a good idea for me personally, but I’ve been really happy with Gitlab for around 8 years now

TootSweet, in Enshittification of GitHub?

I moved all my open source projects to Gitlab the day Microsoft announced they were acquiring Github.

(I wish in retrospect I’d taken the time to research and decide on the right host. I likely would have gone to Codeberg instead of Gitlab had I done so. But Gitlab’s still better than Github. And I don’t really know for sure that Codeberg was even around back when Microsoft acquired Github.)

grue,

I’m OOTL. Why is Codeberg better than GitLab?

TootSweet, (edited )

I’m not really sure it is. I just wish I’d shopped around before jumping to Gitlab, really.

It kindof feels like Gitlab’s aims are more commercial and Codeberg’s are more in line with the FOSS movement, but that’s just a vague sense I have based on things I’ve seen but no longer remember specifically.

CalcProgrammer1’s response to my post seems pretty informative and apropos, though.

bizdelnick, (edited )
  1. It is FOSS while GitLab EE is not.
  2. It supports a lot of atifact repository formats while GitLab only docker registry.
  3. It is a non-commercial project.
superbirra,
  1. It supports a lot of atifact repository formats while GitLab only docker registry.

not true docs.gitlab.com/…/supported_package_managers.html

that said, I hate gitlab and their commercial choices, they must die

bizdelnick,

Thank you I missed when they added this. I only track a very old FR for rpm support and was sure that situation is similar with other repos. However gitea/forgejo supports more formats including rpm.

toastal,

Codeberg is ran by a German nonprofit. GitLab is publically-traded on NASDAQ.

gian,

Make the move from Gitlab to Codeberg in the last few days: really simple to do, give it a try ;-)

TootSweet,

Yeah, good thought. The only reason I haven’t is just because I worry that moving constantly might deter people from using any of my FOSS projects. Just seems like it could be considered a red flag (a sign of a “bad” or poorly-managed project) to some. (And… well… given that I didn’t do the research when I moved those projects, it wouldn’t be an entirely inaccurate conclusion to draw.)

Oh, I guess also I’d need to log back into my Github and change everything that says “moved to Gitlab” to say “moved to Codeberg” and update links. (I literally force-pushed to overwrite the entire history of my Github projects with a single commit each with just a README that says it moved to Gitlab with a link.)

Plus, if I really looked into it, I might decide I’d prefer to self-host on something like Gitea.

I guess all that to say I’d definitely want to put more thought into it before migrating any particular place a second time. Doing the actual move is indeed the easy part, but there’s a lot of thought and research to do before that. And a lot of meta-considerations to take into account.

Sounds like you like Codeberg, though. Just out of curiosity, what sold you on Codeberg?

gian,

Sounds like you like Codeberg, though. Just out of curiosity, what sold you on Codeberg?

Basically the fact that they are in Europe and for now they are free (even if I am planning to contribute some euros) and without all the “every site need to be a social network” facade (like Github).
All the features I need are present and I were not using the missing one anyway (like the CI). And I like to support an EU company ;-)

Additionally it is a couple of years that I am trying to move away from US companies for every service I use, the move from Gitlab to Codeberg is the last one and came natural.

linuxPIPEpower,

Codeberg us really new, i think like 2 years. Since covid for sure.

TootSweet,

Ah. Good to know. I don’t feel so bad about going with Gitlab now.

BurnoutDV,

I registered there june 2020 so longer than that

antrosapien, (edited )

My first impression of gitlab was offputting because I was using hardened firefox and couldnt get past through cloudflare so I ended up using github. It was also better ui wise but now its just a mess

Edit: slowly i’m starting to move everything to codeberg

CalcProgrammer1,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

I still left my old and unmaintained projects on GitHub but I moved all my active projects to GitLab and any new projects go there too. I have them auto mirrored back to GitHub though as the more mirrors the better. I also recently set up a Codeberg mirror for some of my projects, though GitLab’s CI is what is keeping me on GitLab even though they nerfed the shit out of it and made it basically a requirement to host your own runners even for FOSS projects a year or two back. Still hate them for that and if Codeberg gets a solid CI option, leaving GitLab would make me happy. They too have seen quite a lot of enshittification in the years since Microsoft bought GitHub.

baronvonj,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

nerfed the shit out of it and made it basically a requirement to host your own runners even for FOSS projects a year or two back.

Did they just reduce quotas (minutes?, cache storage?) or did they remove features? I’ve always used self-hosted runner

CalcProgrammer1,
@CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.ml avatar

Drastically nerfed the quotas. FOSS projects with a valid license used to have GitLab Premium access to shared runners and now even FOSS projects with a valid license get a rather useless 400 minutes. They also require new accounts to add CC info just to use that paltry sum which means FOSS projects can’t rely on CI passing on forks to ensure a merge request passes the checks before merging, as even if you have project specific runners set up forks don’t use them and neither to MRs.

I wish companies didn’t offer what they can’t support from the beginning rather than this embrace, extend, extinguish shit. I guess in GitLab’s case there was no extend, it was just embrace FOSS projects and let them set up CI pipelines and get projects depending on the shared CI runners as part of merge request workflow for a few years and then extinguish by yoinking that access away and fucking over everyone’s workflow, leaving us scrambling to set up project side runners and ruining checks on MRs.

superbirra,

They also require new accounts to add CC

just FYI you can still register w/o a cc but the option is hidden, only reachable via ‘sign in’ and then ‘register’: gitlab.com/users/sign_up

that said they’re shit and need to die

akrot,

The landscape is changing so fast thanks to LLMs, everything is becoming gated behind logins. Thanks ChatGPT.

mogoh, in Enshittification of GitHub?

What are good alternatives to GitHub except selfhosting? I only know gitlab.com. Anything else?

Blaze,
@Blaze@discuss.online avatar

Codeberg

toastal,

SSH + an HTTP server can work if you are going barebones

gian,
Slotos,

Sourcehut

atomkarinca,

codeberg

Potatos_are_not_friends,

I would say bitbucket except I don’t recommend bitbucket.

megaman, (edited ) in What OS or FOSS SMS app do you use that supports RCS?

I had this same question since seeing the post about the Fossify phone app. For phone, calendar, contacts, things like those, i dont see what value the official google apps have (other than syncing to your account, but i can manage that myself). For Messages from Google, tho, there is something they provide in the RCS, if only because they block others from implementing.

So, using Fossify Message, for example, sacrifices something of some actual value here…

scrubbles, in Enshittification of GitHub?
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Honestly for selfhosters, I can’t recommend enough setting up an instance of Gitea. You’ll be very happy hosting your code and such there, then just replicate it to github or something if you want it on the big platforms.

sub_ubi,

Does it have any features that github doesn’t?

Disregard3145,

Its pretty good, for most people there isn’t anything missing

Actions can’t be triggered by workflow dispatch

Pull requests can’t wait for status checks

SaladevX,

+1 for Gitea. It’s super lightweight, and works really well! I recently switched to Gitlab simply because I wanted experience with hosting it, but Gitea is much lighter and easier to use.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Forgejo please. Gitea was acquired by a for-profit company

renard_roux,

Maybe have a look at this comment elsewhere in the thread.

d3Xt3r,

Just so you’re aware, Gitea was taken over by a for-profit company. Which is why it was forked and Forgejo was formed. If you don’t use Github as a matter of principle, then you should switch to Forgejo instead.

JoeKrogan,
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

Thanks for the info

aniki,

did they get federation working?

d3Xt3r,

Nothing usable yet unfortunately, but they seem to be making good progress: codeberg.org/forgejo/forgejo/issues/59

aniki,

Thanks for the link! As long as it’s being worked on I feel comfortable spinning up an instance. I’ve been meaning to do gitea for a while so I’m glad I waited.

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

Damnit of course it was. Thanks for letting me know, now I’ll have to redo my 100+ repos.

moreeni,

Changing the remote should be fairly trivial with enough bash skills

scrubbles,
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

It’s more I don’t have them all checked out, and a good chunk are mirrors of github, so I’ll have to list out each one and push to a new remote, mirrors will have to be setup again, and I also use the container and package registries. I’m pretty embedded. It’s not impossible, but it’s a weekend project for sure.

NightAuthor,

If there’s a fork, it’ll probably be an easy migration/in-place upgrade.

lambchop,

My understanding is the fork isn’t doing much but waiting to see if gitea turns to shit, pushing all their changes upstream. If you use docker I’ve heard you can just pull the new image and it simply drops in, no migration needed.

Hexarei,
@Hexarei@programming.dev avatar

Oh man, thanks for this. I had no idea, having used gitea for years now.

MigratingtoLemmy,

Forgejo for you chap.

Honestly I’m kind of surprised that Gitea is still being recommended on Lemmy, it’s been a while since Gitea was acquired and the community has been raging since. Lemmy is regressing

superbirra,

Lemmy is regressing

it is not lol, you are just realising that you are not part of any elite for the simple reason of using it

vext01, in Enshittification of GitHub?
@vext01@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It could be much worse.

TootSweet,
toastal,

Be it will?

davidgro, in What OS or FOSS SMS app do you use that supports RCS?

Not yet possible. Google hasn’t provided an API to access RCS from 3rd party apps. They did to Samsung’s messenger (1st party as far as their own phones), but as far as I know that is the only other one currently. (Verizon for a while had their own RCS implementation and infrastructure and their own messenger app could access it)

Sensitivezombie,

Well, that’s too bad about RCS.

denshirenji, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
@denshirenji@lemmy.world avatar

What I have installed:

From Obtanium:

  • Most Fossify Apps
  • Nextcloud
  • Material Files
  • Immich
  • DAVx & ICSx (nextcloud contacts and calendar sync)
  • DNS66
  • Jellyfin
  • Spotube

From FDroid (really droidify from various repositories)

  • FUTO Voice Input
  • Breezy Weather
  • K-9
  • Libera Reader
  • FFUpdater
  • Joplin

The list is massive and I’m on mobile and hate tiny keyboards. I can finish the list later if you/y’all are interested. The only thing that I actively use that is not FOSS on my phone is Google Messages, which I guess is a bit hypocritical, but its too good. Just the ability to react to messages makes it worth it for me.

I also highly recommend Grayjay. It is the best (IMHO) YouTube replacement. It is cross service, like I have odysee, nebula, youtube, and various peertube instances added as sources.

As far as what apps to watch out for, someone mentioned Simple Mobile Tools. Otherwise, I would stay away from apps that are not being updated anymore or are otherwise way too old.

Tangent5280,

How well would you say Libera Reader works? Do you have experience using it?

denshirenji,
@denshirenji@lemmy.world avatar

It works perfectly well. I find the ui bit clunky personally, but functionally it works very well. I don’t have much time to read anymore though, so I rarely use it to be honest.

Adda,
@Adda@lemmy.ml avatar

Librera Reader is the best reader I have had the honour to try. I have been using Librera Reader for several years now, and I think it is safe to say I love the app. It is actively maintained, and new features are added continuously. There are plenty of settings to allow you to modify the user experience exactly to your liking. If you are considering reading any e-books or PDFs on your Android devices, give Librera Reader a try. It is a fantastic app.

Tangent5280,

I read a lot, and currently I read with calibre on my pc since I can highlight and export them directly so I can include them in my notes. I’d like it if I could run the calibre server and be able to higlight on my phone, and sync it over to my pc automatically.

Lemongrab, (edited )
@Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

I have some things to add.

Most of the released fossify apps are on fdroid.

From f-droid I recommended:

Binary eye (QR and bar codes)

Fennec or Mull (Firefox without telemetry, Mull for privacy/security)

K-9 mail (email client, Thunderbird mobile)

Aurora store (google appstore without need for play services)

Innertune (better YT music)

OpenNoteScanner (scan paper docs to digitize)

Droidify (fdroid but more feature rich and user friendly)

Tangent5280,

How does OpenNoteScanner compare to the Microsoft Lens app?

Lemongrab,
@Lemongrab@lemmy.one avatar

Much less features. Does the job with simple orientation correction and post process filters for clearer text. Serviceable but incomparably.

mea_rah,

I feel so sorry for recommending a closed source app in this community, but Genius Scan from Grizzly Labs is the only non-oss app I still use. I think I paid around €30 for the enterprise version so it doesn’t bother me with cloud nonsense.

It’s all local only (if you want) and the scanning quality is the best I’ve found. (I used OpenNoteScanner for a few months, sadly it’s not even close both in terms of quality and convenience)

I figured I’ll mention it as an alternative to MS Lens app that likely sucks in every bit of information it can get its hands on.

denshirenji,
@denshirenji@lemmy.world avatar

Thank you for recommending Innertune. Checking it out now.

mulcahey, in What OS or FOSS SMS app do you use that supports RCS?

I’ve been using Beeper. It’s open source and built on Matrix bridges, also open source. For RCS you have to link it to your Google Messages

ganoo,
@ganoo@sh.itjust.works avatar

Google Messages

He wanted FOSS software. Bridging it to Matrix doesn’t make it FOSS imo.

lemmyreader,

OP wrote “OS or FOSS”. What is the license for Matrix, btw ?

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Synapse is AGPL-3.0.

RovingFox, in Alright boys, I've been converted to the light side and have installed F-Droid. Now what?
@RovingFox@infosec.pub avatar

Wait until you find out about Obtainium.

Unmapped,

I’m loving obtainium. I just found it about 2 weeks ago and, I’ve been slowly switching everything I had installed with f droid over to obtainium. Only problem so far was one didn’t have apk releases. Only a .zip. There is already a issue on github about it and I expect obtainium will be able to handle that in the near future. It has be getting updated a lot lately. Plus version 1.0.0 just released.

RovingFox,
@RovingFox@infosec.pub avatar

Yeah, I did the same when I found it. For some apps I still left the fdroid version, but they update with obtainium.

PlutoniumAcid,
@PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world avatar

Well…?

Tangent5280,

Im thinking its another app storefront, similar to f droid?

alkheemist,

Obtainium lets you install FOSS programs directly from the developers source. You can get updates from the github/gitlab of app developers before they get uploaded to F-droid.

crashoverride,

How do I use it? I downloaded it but I don’t see the apps on it

alkheemist,

You have to add them manually, either by url or with the built in search. For example, you can add newpipe by searching sources and checking github as a source to search. It will then show you repos that match newpipe, which usually is the regular newpipe repo and then a bunch of forks of it.

Obtainium isn’t for finding FOSS apps, it’s for installing them. To find them, you can check out existing repos such as f-droid or izzy, or you can ask around. This post has a bunch of recommendations in the replies

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