Coasting0942,

Or, pirate because it’s what Jesus would do.

Jesus 2024 gets sent straight to jail for just copy pasting everything for everybody, completely ruining the economy. You wouldn’t just download food for the hungry? Think about the corpo farms.

sqgl,

Today is Aaron Swartz day

programming.dev/post/5769498

LemmysMum,

I am an anti-theist. I am a follower of Jesus mythos. In the words of Mahatma Gandhi - “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”

A Middle-Eastern Jewish Socialist walks into a marketplace…

Hamartia,

Imagine the faces on the baker and fisherman when when Jesus copy pasted their hard grafted produce to feed his five thousand starving followers.

Enkrod,

Aye, I used to sail the high seas, the hull of my ship gnarly with viruses, adware and malware from some infectious crackers or key-generators.

Then I had money, and started buying my software and my movies and all was good for a time. Then my media consume shifted to mobile devices, but I had Amazon Prime Video as the only really available video-streaming service around and all was good for a time. Then I added Netflix, as it arrived on my countries market and all was good for a time. Then I added Crunchyroll, Disney+ and Hulu and everything sucked, streaming the shows I wanted to watch was suddenly so expensive, no single streaming service had everything I wanted to watch, so I needed to subscribe to them all, costing an amount of money I would not spend on buying those shows.

Now I have unsubscribed from all but two again, but the market is so fractured, there is barely anything interesting on the services I still go to.

So my eyes keep wandering to that old tricorn, the hook and peg-leg, gathering dust on the wall. I can hear the waves crashing and feel the tide rising in my bones. The moneybags have decided to press us for more and more, their greed means no single harbor, not even two are enough to supply our demands. So there is plenty of bounty to be found on the high seas again, big fat galleons full of content otherwise unreachable or too expensive.

Doncha hear it boys? Davey Jones is singing again, calling us back to the sea, put on your VPN, defy the torrents and right your compasses with a good magnet. We did not choose this life, they made us turn to it.

lethargic_lemming,

lmao is this copypasta

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

It is now.

VampyreOfNazareth,

By Odins beard make it so

jelloeater85,
@jelloeater85@lemmy.world avatar

I love everything about this ❤️❤️❤️

pomodoro_longbreak,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Beautiful. Well done

LemmyIsFantastic, (edited )

In this moment I am euphoric vibes.

Being a proud pirate is some of the dumbest shit on the planet.

sexy_peach,

Nothing wrong with sharing your favorite media.

LemmyIsFantastic,

BUT HAVE YOU MADE IT YOUR ENTIRE PERSONALITY YET? HAVE YOU PROUDLY GONE ON TO THE INTERNET TO DECLARE YOU WILL ALWAYS PIRATE?

If you haven’t you are definitely missing out.

sexy_peach,

Nah I am more of an open source and creative commons kind of guy

interdimensionalmeme,

I used to be poor and pirate everything. Then I was making enough money. I got subscriptions and paid for games. But still pirated everything but games because Netflix was just too annoying to use.

Now everything is going to shit. I still make money but I’m going to start pirating way more. This time it will be out of spite !

LemmyIsFantastic,

I wish I could possibly convey how hard I just rolled my eyes back into my head.

Netflix is too hard? You’ll come up with anything to justify stealing it.

NotSoCoolWhip,

How do you steal something that is infinitely reproducible?

If you have an apple and I steal it, you cannot eat the apple.

If you have a movie, I can copy it and you can still watch it.

Say for instance, there was a magic apple machine that copied apples infinitely with zero loss. If not intentionally destroyed, access to this machine would be restricted by the first party with enough capital to acquire and protect it. Using the machine to copy apples would also be considered stealing.

LemmyIsFantastic,

You people have recited that bullshit for as long as I can remember usenet. You’ve stolen the right to distribution and taken money out of progress 6 hands.

Invent whatever little story you need to live with it.

NotSoCoolWhip,

gibve dindsey more monies . Mous not have enoigh monies but when you give money he do

LemmyIsFantastic,

👌

interdimensionalmeme,

In 12 years of being subscribed to Netflix, it did not happen a single time that the movie I tried into the search was available.

I got the subscription as an indulgence. To answer the question, “how will the artists get paid”. But I still get everything from piratebay. Again, because Netflix is crap.

LemmyIsFantastic,

👌👍

Rai,

Piracy isn’t theft lawl gtfo with that

quirzle,
@quirzle@kbin.social avatar

Being a proud pirate is some of the dumbest shit on the planet.

Not as dumb as the people who go to piracy forums to complain about piracy being stealing.

LemmyIsFantastic, (edited )

Oh, I didn’t come here to complain about stealing.

I came to make fun of idiots that make it their identity. The ladder is very much open season on piracy forums. You seem to be conflating (and other) the two.

Leviathan,

You’re literally whining about stealing in the two next comments.

quirzle,
@quirzle@kbin.social avatar

I certainly wasn't calling him dumb because he makes coherent, logically consistent arguments.

LemmyIsFantastic,

I’m not the one who started in with justifications. That’s in the other commentators.

val,

My coworkers were talking today about all the hoops they were going through with streaming to find the content they wanted and navigating the byzantine extra charges to share it with their family. If piracy wasn’t an option I still wouldn’t go through all that, it’s madness how much worse the paid service is to the high seas.

OsrsNeedsF2P,

Yup. My gf has Netflix but for one of our shows, the English subtitles disappeared (she’s ESL). Took like 15 minutes to figure it out, but happened again the next day. Now we pirate that show because it’s easier, even though she has it on Netflix.

sukhmel,

I wonder if you have legal access to things you’re pirating, could someone call that a theft too? 🤔

DrQuint, (edited )

Also used someone else’s Netflix to finally hit the attack on titan craze some years back.

No english subs. Have to read the local language. Whatever. The names were not accurately translated. Whatever. I could look past that since they were consistent within the subs as presented.

Season 2 - all the names changed from season 1. Even something as simple as changing a K to a C is too much and unacceptable, but the fuckers were straight up changing the name of the militaty units and shit. I had no idea who was who.

20 minutes later, I’m watching the HorribleSubs version with the worldwide-accepted English names and I never watched anime on Netflix. Piracy is a service problem.

Damage,

I have Netflix and Amazon and I still pirate a bunch of stuff, sometimes I even forget to check if something is available there before torrenting it

interceder270,

That’s what they get for being too stupid to use free streaming services.

A fool and their money are soon parted.

It’s easier to fool someone than to convince them they’d been fooled.

zwaetschgeraeuber,

if you have enough money, pay for stuff you like.

interceder270,

Lol. You do that 🤡

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Why should I?

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a nice way of showing the people who make the things you like support.

MashedTech,

Yes. Normally you would want more stuff you like.

interceder270,

Because they want you to be a useful idiot like them.

MashedTech, (edited )

You’re right. If you can afford something you like you should steal it, it’s much better. Whenever I go into a library I just take a bag and dump all the books and take them home. Why should I put in the effort of wasting my time(meaning money I could have earned) signing a library card when I can just steal? It’s THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY. That’s how I stay RICH. I never pay. Whenever I see someone about to pay for something they want I just steal their money, why should they keep it if they’re not smart enough to not waste it? Their money is much safer with me. The apartment I’m currently living in is so cheap, because I never pay. I just changed all the locks, have triple bolts on all the doors and just stay here. It’s mine, it’s free and they can’t kick me out because I won’t let them. Why should I pay for the internet when it’s basically flowing free through these wires and air? I just take some from my neighbor. When I go to a coffee shop I just grab the first drink I see that’s on the counter. If they’re not fast enough to take their drink, I take it, it’s just sitting there, it’s free.

seitanic,
@seitanic@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

When you steal books from a library, you’re preventing others from accessing those books. When you download a digital copy of a book, you aren’t.

Same thing with money. If you stole my money, I’d be upset, but I wouldn’t be upset if I had infinite money.

YeeterPan,

steal

Tldr~ the comment isn’t relevant as piracy isn’t stealing

sukhmel,

I’m not sure whether to agree or not, but he’s got the point in the following sense: if everyone will pirate and never donate to the creator, then the creator will get about zero returns and will likely go make a living doing something else.

So pirate + donate looks like more fair redistribution of wealth, while pirate + no pay looks like being greedy asshole same as corporations

MashedTech,

Honestly, you should go watch Benn Jordan: youtu.be/gDfNRWsMRsU?si=TWErOa6A1XxvFpJu

He makes some great points and has some personal examples. He made more money by releasing the album on torrents and asking for donations compared to the normal ways of releasing your music.

cuenca,

what website is that?

lseif,

4chan?

Dra,

Hahahahahah

PraiseTheSoup,

Cringe af

MrSqueezles,

I’m a really great person. I’m good at everything. My friends are all tools and won’t ever be as amazing as me.

Congratulations. I bet those friends are absolutely real.

0x2d,

“friends”

ikidd, (edited )
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

I’m well over 25 years of sailing now (40 if you count games for early PCs), and they’ll pry the sabre out of my cold, dead hands. I’ve made not watching ads a lifestyle and piracy is so much easier than dealing with the bullshit interfaces of streaming companies.

If I have a way of directly donating to creators and not via their shitty production companies, I’ll take it. Podcasts have it right, I can send money to creators and get an ad-free stream. If I can’t, I don’t donate and I don’t listen to their work.

In the end, me avoiding ads isn’t costing anyone anything, because if I hear an ad, I likely avoid that product going forward. They have at best zero effect on my buying decisions, if not a negative one.

kadotux, (edited )

I’m a lot like you in a way, and I agree with what you said, but I just wanted to note that you are NOT invulnerable to marketing or ads. Advertisement (brainwashing) techniques have been researched for centuries, and with massive resources. I think even the very thing where some people think they can’t be affected by marketing, is a marketing technique itself. Probably.

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

Possibly, but I encounter very, very few ads. So I might take a chance heard product and research it into a purchase, but I’m not going to do the “seven exposures and they’re sure to buy” sort of thing.

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve been pirating since I was a child. That being said, I don’t think it’s particularly healthy to pin ‘media pirating’ as a personality trait.

spookedbyroaches,

Do you know what community this is?

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, why?

fiah, (edited )
@fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

participating in a community ≠ making it a lifestyle

spookedbyroaches,

I think a lot of people in this community consider it a lifestyle to pirate media.

lowleveldata,

I think most just don’t give a fuck. Definitely not enough fucks to make it a lifestyle.

DrQuint,

Yeah, I basically stopped pirating entirely despite doing it relentlessly early in life. I still owe Capcom a thousand bucks if I am to pay that one alone back.

The basically part is that I still pirate what little music I need. Fuck the music industry.

SlikPikker,

My exception is smaller bands with bamdcamp.

Buying from there supports the artists well!

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

I basically do the same. I buy a majority of albums as records from my favorite bands or just bands I want to support.

Franzia,

Why not?

mriormro,
@mriormro@lemmy.world avatar

Because, at the end of the day, we’re basically just downloading commodity entertainment. There’s nothing directly substantive about that and that’s fine. Not everything we do needs to become a direct part of our identity.

Franzia,

Oh. Omg you’re so right lol.

ColonelSanders,

Yup. Pirating is about filling a need where companies sorely lack in providing services. When a company provides a shitty service or offers no viable alternative to obtaining something I would gladly pay for, pirating bridges that gap.

Lennard,

If you have enough money to live comfortably, I think you should pay for art you love. That doesn’t mean you shouldn’t pirate anything (especially from big corps), but please donate some money to indie games, music, theatre…

CoderKat,

Heck, I’d say even give money to those big corps so long as they are being reasonable with the price and availability. Reasonable varies by person, of course. But for me, I’ll pay for any $70-90 game (the normal price for new games now in Canada), but stuff like Sims DLC or how the original Mass Effect only let you get DLC through some dumb BioWare credits are cases where I’d pirate no regrets even with my current income.

After all, there won’t be AAA games if people don’t pay for them. I have (mostly) no qualms with big publishers pocketing a significant profit on those games if they get made well. Bigger problem I have is with games that get rushed to the point of impacting quality, but that’s something I see more for changing how you approach that individual title. Stuff like mistreating staff (crunch time) is a bit iffier. I still lean towards giving them my money, since nobody enters the game dev business without knowing it’ll involve crunch and I do want the devs to be rewarded for their hard work with a commercial success (cause that’s unfortunately just how success is measured in our capitalist society).

datavoid,

I’d recommend only buying good / unique / finished games for $90 - buying any game for that much will just encourage them to keep releasing mediocre trash (mostly talking about series like COD, assassin’s Creed, etc.)

Deadeyegai,
@Deadeyegai@lemmy.world avatar

I think for movies and music this is totally true. Video games less so but not impossible

Rai,

I always pay for vijia but I wait for like a year or two and get em at a heavy discount.

I haven’t bought a movie or a music in 20 years. Well that’s a lit, I bought a bunch of FLACs from a guy whose music I loved because he’s a small artist and I want to see him bigger.

Other than that… movie, shows, and a music are a YOINK

Selmafudd,

I can’t think of the last game I wanted to play that wasn’t cracked within week 1

Mr_Blott,

I’ve been pirating for twenty years and you do kind of just stick with it even when you can afford stuff.

That said, when I reinstalled Windows a while ago, I was fannying about for aaaaaages trying to get a cracked version of Office to work when I suddenly realised I could just buy it for a tenner and not have to fuck about 😂 It hadn’t occurred to me before

jose1324,

Yeah office is literally the only thing that’s not worth it. Lifetime office 2019 is like 20 euro. This will die out with the subscription shit taking place though

Sprokes,

Wasn’t it like 120€ ten years ago?

Deiskos,

they might be talking about those questionably-legal licenses off ebay

jose1324,

Idk. It’s a real website and Company that I pay. But the license itself could be sus.

Mr_Blott,

Yep, it’s likely a sus licence, but when it eventually refuses to work, a quick phone call to MS and they just say “Fuck it, go on then”. Call centre people don’t care where you got it 😅

TimewornTraveler,

4chan and randomly using slurs for no reason

bionicjoey,

When in Rome…

potemkinhr,
@potemkinhr@lemmy.ml avatar

Just a few days ago I pulled an old Sony’s NWZ player as they still have superior audio quality compared to phones. I had to throw it away after 10+ years as the battery died.

Bonehead,

Replacing the battery isn't that difficult. You should have kept it...

MystikIncarnate,

The RIAA drove me to piracy in the early days.

Then stuff like Google Play music came along and I stopped because I can actually pay for basically any song I want to listen to, all at my fingertips and that is still true. It makes me happy to support the artists and their music though I know they don’t get very much of the cut.

The MPAA was much of the same story.

Then Netflix happened and I was all set for the same thing to happen, but it didn’t. Now streaming is almost as fractured as cable TV packages, and I went right back to piracy.

Screw it. I don’t feel bad about it because they haven’t shown any regard for the people they continually exploit, namely their customers. They don’t give any shits if I financially sink while trying to afford to enjoy the things that they make, so I won’t give any shits about their financial situation while I enjoy it anyways. Fuck them.

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