nakal, Programs are mathematical proofs. If maths cannot be patented, software can't be, either.
GeniusIsme, Proofs can be represented as programs, not the other way around. Also, USA allows for algorithm parents, and algorithms are maths. While I agree with you, your reasoning is not correct.
hglman, No, the proof - program correspondence is in both directions.
GeniusIsme, Correspondence is quite a weak relation. Very far from one being another.
nakal, That's why it's also called Curry-Howard isomorphism.
sukhmel, I’d say if you ask a mathematician, they would disagree with you. But maybe that depends on how far they have gone into maths from common sense
MachineFab812, Correspondence is not correlation.
NeryK, You can hear a more detailed explanation on VLC’s stance from the man himself (JB Kempf) in the FOSS pod S1E11 episode around 22:10.
Basically:
- Not that many threats become lawsuits
- Patent trolling is countered with publicly accessible prior art
- Having no money is also a good deterrent
maniacalmanicmania, Thanks for the heads up about FOSS pod. Had not heard of it before.
RePsyche, This is all well and good, and where’s the Traffic Cone!?!
CoffeePorter, Asking the real questions here.
chellomere, Under Santa’s hat
misophist, (edited ) The cone is the logo for their most popular project (VLC media player), but this is a message from the organization as a whole, which has the logo you currently see. It is not specifically about that one project.
pistachio, AFAIK european laws only allow to patent “inventions”. Software is considered to be a series of “words” in whatever programming language you’re using and, like sentences, it’s not an invention and can’t be patented.
On the other hand, software-assisted inventions can be patented as a whole.
With that said, software can still be considered a “work” protected by copyright laws.
520, (edited ) And that's fine. VLC does their own implementation of codecs so that's not an issue. It's the patents that make it an issue.
Usernamealreadyinuse, Can someone elaborate?
ggppjj, They don’t recognize or value software patents because they aren’t recognized by the government where the project is run from.
KpntAutismus, Valid.
DeltaTangoLima, Vive la France!
moitoi, Seeing the last law on immigration :/
RobotToaster, America has the odd idea that software is considered patentable. Since the developers of VLC are French, and software isn’t considered patentable in France, they’re saying “Va te faire enculer” to people who want to sue them.
BetaDoggo_, French laws don’t recognize software patents so videolan doesn’t either. This is likely a reference to vlc supporting h265 playback without verifying a license. These days most opensource software pretends that the h265 patents and licensing fees don’t exist for convenience. I believe libavcodec is distributed with support enabled by default.
Nearly every device with hardware accelerated h265 support has already had the license paid for, so there’s not much point in enforcing it. Only large companies like Microsoft and Red Hat bother.
Blaster_M, (edited ) They bother because they are US based and can be hounded by the patent trolls holders
Chewy7324, Additionally, companies doing business in the US also follow US laws. If they don’t, they could still be sued overseas (or stop doing business over there).
Metz, That logo design hurts my heart… cdn.cnc-comm.com/theme//assets/images/wslogo.png
sus, graphic design is my passion
SchizoDenji, (edited ) Fuck that, I like that it’s different. I feel a lot of the logos are too similar and boring.
This one has the retro feel to it.
misophist, I don’t think they were complaining about the design. It invoked a memory of a beloved video game studio from the past that had a similar logo (Westwood Studios) and they are a bit heartbroken. I didn’t take their comment as an actual complaint against VideoLAN’s logo.
Metz, correct!
ILikeBoobies, That’s not their stance, that’s French law
menas, I think it both. Not all software or codec provider aim to apply the EU and French laws. Quite the contrary
Saoirse, Utterly based.
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