Older Sony Xperia phones support LineageOS and have a headphone jack. Normally it isn’t until their 2-warranty is up that a LineageOS build is mainlined (likely because they aren’t high volume & are expensive). I got a III recently to running LineageOS for microG (but the proprietary camera app is missing).
Be aware that the cheaper ASUS Zenfones have a headphone jack, but are nearing a year since their bootloader unlock servers “went down for maintenance”. They’ll likely never come back.
Took me a minute to find, but that's really great info, thanks!
I've already filled a complaint with the ICO since the company continued to refuse to delete my data, so we'll see what they come back with (their own guidelines say something very similar - "they should only ask you for just enough information to be sure you are the right person") if they side with the company I will definitely be quoting these guidelines.
LOL! That’s the lie of the century. I’m thinking you dont pay attention to the last handful of years and the legislation the EU is trying to pass? The EU is NOT privacy respecting. They just have a half descent data policy with GDPR, which many US states also have.
Ah yes Netflix. I was going through the apps on my phone to delete things that I don’t need, there’s a bunch of shit on there I never installed and can’t be uninstalled. like Netflix.
People that don’t actually know this or just accept it. Look at how many people use ring cameras and you can tell them that Amazon will hand the video footage to law enforcement , and they will say “oh yeah I have nothing to hide” or “Oh yeah but the camera is cheap”
No one is reporting this, ford certainly isn’t putting it in their press material, and no one gets a copy of the manual to review before purchasing a vehicle.
Right but this is not an issue that’s in the public consciousness yet. No one thinks to read the manual or go to the website and check on how their privacy is going to be invaded by a fuckin car.
Also all these things he talks about you can just turn off lol.
Don’t want the car to send data? Turn it off…
Don’t want the speed limiter to be on? Turn it off…
Edit: lol why am I being downvoted? I’m right. Both are in car settings you can just turn off. Connectivity and speed limiter + traffic sign recognition.
Can you point to evidence that you can disable the speed limiter? I couldn’t find anything except in a Mustang forum that said the only way was through a hardware tuner.
I have the GT parked in my garage. The options to turn off the sign recognition and change the cruise control limiter are under vehicle settings in my sync menu.
Have you actually verified whether you can turn this connectivity off? I know on other new cars it’s embedded in the electronics with no on/off button.
Yeah, it’s a setting in the car infotainment system under connectivity.
You have like 4 options. One for each of the data types (so you can turn off cellular data but leave on GPS), and one to turn it all off. When it’s all off there is no data being sent to or from the car at all.
Love how lemmy just downvotes cause they don’t like that answer.
I figured this day would eventually arrive where your car snitches on you to the cops.
I suppose they could track your speed a millisecond at a time and you pay a fine based on speed over limit times distance traveled and it is then the charges are sent every month like a bill. You can appear in court but will always lose of course. Of course they’re capturing the drivers face at all times and sending that to the po po to make sure they charge the right person.
I guess I’m never buying another new car. Fuck everything, at this point. I’m so done.
Stuff like this is likely planned in advance with sports and super cars. Since this technology has existed for a while. Assuming you visit a recognized track, wherever it may be, the limiter simply turns off. For example, the 2009 and later Nissan GTR is sold in Japan with a 112 MPH artificial limiter in the software. The limit is there by law. GPS / Sat Nav is standard on this car. If you visit say, Fuji or Laguna Seca, the car knows where it is and turns the limiter off. Allowing you to achieve the ~200 MPH top speed. Examples sold for other markets such as US and EU need not worry. The redline in 6th gear is your physical limiter.
On a slightly related note, clever people have figured out ways around limiters. Such as tricking the GPS or modifying the ECU. Unfortunately, these days it gets harder to do this as manufacturers like Mercedes, BMW, VW, and a few others, are encrypting the communication network physically located in the car. It’s not the traditional low and high speed CAN Bus. FlexRay is becoming more commonplace unfortunately.
How does Ford benefit from this? Why add this “feature?” … To prevent adolescent teens from driving over 80mph…? Nanny car 2024? Buy your teen this car and feel assured they won’t drive over 80mph? “Don’t worry we will alert the cops and even call you when they get arrested!”
I wonder if insurance companies would offer a lower rate for drivers with NannyCar features.
We monitor everything that you do, and limit your ability to cost us money:
No loud music, must use turn signals, no driving over 80mph, we track your movements, must wear seatbelt, pay tolls, have approved air pressure, no loud kids in the car, no distractions like hands on phones … stop at stop sign for 60 seconds. We can stop the car if we suspect is is being carjacked or involved in bank heist.
Or a more nefarious motivation…Ford … we monitor the music you like, where you stop to eat, which commercials you don’t skip, where you buy gas, … and sell the information to advertisers…
This is how it’ll happen. Opt in. They’ll charge more by default and then you can share your safe driving with them to lower your premium. It’s often how it currently works with odometer readings, except not through a smart car, just a quick dash reading.
I’m imagining a nagging-nanny removing discounts for minuscule violations it deems catastrophic. “On September 2 you exhibited ‘road rage’ by not using your turn signal before passing.”
Micromanaged driving. AI anti-privacy bot calculating your every move. Big-Nagging-Nanny
They already do this. I was offered to plug some kind of monitoring device into my car for a period of time to determine my driving behavior for potential lower rates. I went for higher rates.
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Pixel is stock android and is guaranteed to not have bloat unless some carrier is involved in it. Whenever anyone here suggests pixel they are definitely doing it for custom ROM like grapheneos and its pointless to buy otherwise.
I also caved for a pixel (4a) for my last phone, it still has Google’s bloatware (can’t remove youtube music app for example), but at least it doesn’t have Samsung’s bloatware in addition.
Still interested where this thread goes in other options though, as it’s getting worse in battery life and I’m also looking out for something new.
GrapheneOS, a privacy/security focused operating system is compatible with a limited amount of devices. The pixel series is part of those compatible devices.
People or rather I didn’t buy pixel as its more privacy friendly but its the only one available here that let’s me install another ROM on day 1 without voiding warranty. And grapheneos being one of the best privacy focused ROM only available for pixel and that pretty much every ROM is available on pixel is another reason. I was basically forced into buying a google product as everyone else void warranty on unlocking boot loader or they don’t have much of a custom ROM scene.
They use Graphene. That’s the point. Pixels are unfortunately the only supported devices. That’s why I won’t use Graphene as I would never support google. A pity, many do
I personally think this might be a “vote with your vallet” situation. Signaling to Google (and to other manufacturers) that people appreciate openness in their smartphones. Knowing Google though, it’s unlikely they will get it.
+1 for iPhone. Is it as private as GrapheneOS? No. Is it more private than almost all out of the box android phones? Yes.
Apple still use a lot of your data, although they at least claim to anonymise most of it. But that data stays internal to try boost more apple sales, and isn’t sold to other companies. I’d rather 1 company have my information than 100.
Any apple apps you don’t want are easily removed once it’s set up and they don’t come back with updates etc.
This is the privacy community, I wouldn’t consider iOS appropriate here at all, since you really can’t do anything to limit the data collection. Especially not for a “what phone should I get” question. If someone already has an iPhone, asking what you can do is a good question (“not much” is the answer you’ll get).
Is it better out if the box than most Androids? Probably, maybe, depending on how that’s defined. But I can quickly make most Androids far better than iOS, even ones with a lot of vendor bloat.
For example, I recently cleaned up a Verizon Samsung just using the Universal Android Debloat Tool. This is stuff I used to do manually with ADB.
Then adding a VPN and I could restrict apps calling home and bypass Google DNS.
You can even disable google services, play, etc, and just don’t use a google acccount on the phone.
They are good products, even if they don’t have the nerdy cool factor. Each day I’m working on old C/C++ code in Linux, so having my phone be a reliable appliance instead of yet another computer to fuck around with is totally fine for me. I liked my past Android phones too though.
No carrier bloatware and very long software support.
I carry an iPhone for work, corp IT manages it, I use little more than comm stuff there, so theres no advantage to having an Android. (Before that my work phone was a blackberry, because I need work calls, email, messaging, etc to just work, and you couldn’t beat the battery life).
My personal is Android, because I want the tools I can use there.
Two very different use-cases.
And I really dislike iOS UI/UX, the limitations are very constricting. But for the basics it “just works”, but it isn’t something to recommend for privacy.
Weirdly in this case I think I agree. You can look at my previous comments about how much I hate Apple but it seems to me that OP isn’t too technical and installing a custom ROM might not be what they’re after. iPhones don’t have any of those annoying games and stuff preinstalled, as long as the carrier doesn’t install stuff. I’d suggest a refurbished unlocked iPhone though, to save some money. Make sure the previous owners account is removed from the device or else it’ll probably just be a paper weight.
If OP is open to custom ROMs then GrapheneOS is a great choice but LineageOS and DivestOS are also great options for someone that wants to get started with privacy and they support a lot more devices, that can be got for cheaper than an iPhone/Pixel. Again, I’d recommended a refurbished, carrier unlocked phone that is supported by one of these projects
Its not hard to flash a rom these days, unlike ten years ago.
Now developers post instructions for each device type. Look at Lineage, Graphene, DivestOS. Very good instructions from all of them, including installing ADB on Windows or Linux.
Of the dozens (hundreds?) of times I’ve flashed over the years, I’ve bricked 1 device, and that was from experimenting and not following instructions, I knew it was risky.
And with Pixel it’s about as straightforward as it gets.
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