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Pantherina, in A question about secure chats

No Telegram lol. Thats way worse. Whatsapp sais they are E2EE but its all “trust me bro” because you cannot look at the code.

With Telegram its a little pain to open encrypted chats and groups are always unencrypted. So its useless.

Let them try Signal, its nearly identical but you can trust it.

Kultronx,
@Kultronx@lemmygrad.ml avatar

Iunno if I would say that Signal can be trusted considering their ties to the US State Dept

rmuk,

The beauty of using Signal with an open-source Signal client is that you don’t need to trust them, which is kind of the point.

Mostly_Gristle, in Kroger (grocery and pharmacy) Sued for Sharing Sensitive Health Data With Meta

Didn’t Costco’s pharmacy get in trouble for this exact thing a couple months ago? I have a feeling we’re going to see a story about this for all the major pharmacy chains.

foyrkopp, in A question about secure chats

Whatsapp is encrypted. The problem is the Metadata they want - i.e. your whole address book.

I do not agree to Facebook having my phone number, but if you use WA and have my number, they have it, too - even if I don’t use WA myself.

If you can convince your family to switch, use Signal or Matrix.

Otherwise, use Shelter on your phone with a limited, WA-ony address book.

TwilightKiddy, (edited )

You can actually use it without giving it contacts permission, but you’ll have to add people via short links, like wa.me/(number).

foyrkopp,

Good to know, thanks.

qwadrant, in Police across Britain equipped with live facial recognition bodycams

How terrible China is in mass surveillance. After all, this is a dictatorship in China and Russia and surveillance of everyone.

June, in Plex starts narcing on its own users' anime and X-rated habits with an opt-out service, and it's going terribly

I’m a little shocked at how difficult it seems to be to find instructions on how to disable this feature. Pretty sure I got it, but it wasn’t a feature called discover together but a series of sharing options.

woodenskewer,
@woodenskewer@lemmy.world avatar

The fact that you’re only “pretty sure” and not “entirely sure” is pretty shitty on plex in itself.

June,

Yep. I’m not thrilled.

echodot,

Plex has been kind of bad for a while though in terms of UI being just hard to use.

I don’t actually think it’s even intentional I think it’s just they don’t have anybody on staff who really knows what they’re doing.

June,

Yea, it’s what all my people use though so I’m a little stuck with it. It’s also dead simple to set up and I don’t feel like learning jellyfin right now.

spudwart, in Plex starts narcing on its own users' anime and X-rated habits with an opt-out service, and it's going terribly
@spudwart@spudwart.com avatar

Okay, this is obnoxious and all.

But what the hell is ‘narcing’?

DannyMac,
@DannyMac@lemmy.world avatar

Present participle of ‘narc.’

DrinkMonkey,

I’d categorize it as a gerund in this context.

mob,

Old term. Think it was short for “narcotics agent”, used to call someone a snitch basically

echodot, (edited )

I think it’s somehow related to the prohibition era. Perhaps alcohol was under the jurisdiction of narcotics?

It’s odd that above doesn’t know it, I thought its definition was well known and would have had no qualms about using it, I wonder if it’s a regional word now?

Gomiyboy, in Plex starts narcing on its own users' anime and X-rated habits with an opt-out service, and it's going terribly

The great enshittening of internet platforms continues

LufyCZ,

So how exactly is this enshitiffication?

It’s a stupid feature that’s for sure, but you’ve gotta stop calling everything enshitiffication mate

Gomiyboy,

?

It’s a degradation in functionality masquerading as an improvement. And as for labelling everything ‘shit’, have you seen my comment history. This is the first time I have used this term on any platform. Smh

LufyCZ,

Re: using it the first time - sorry, people just tend to use it when not applicable.

It’s not a degradation in functionality, it’s a dumbass move, but I’m sure they didn’t intend to worsen anything.

echodot,

It’s not really degrading functionality there is it. It’s a feature that no one wants and is annoying and badly thought out but you can turn it off but they haven’t disabled any functionality to add this feature

EddoWagt,

It’s a feature that no one wants and is annoying and badly thought out but you can turn it off but they haven’t disabled any functionality to add this feature

So it’s just more unnecessary bloat

jonne,

I feel that for a platform that is commonly used for pirated content, having telemetry that shows exactly what content people have is probably bad.

Next they’ll start selling that info to the MPAA so they can sue individual users.

LufyCZ,

They will never sue users, you can not prove the user doesn’t own the corresponding Blueray, etc.

That, and it’d completely destroy the company, like in an instant, gone.

vFOV, in Plex starts narcing on its own users' anime and X-rated habits with an opt-out service, and it's going terribly

Jellyfin ftw

neutron, in A question about secure chats

In a similar situation as you (entire society revolves around whatsapp). I came to this conclusion:

  1. Others won’t share my view on personal privacy at all will happily give out any metadata or data. No matter what secure channel we use, the destination (people) will always leak.
  2. Because of (1), consider all communication with others as public, no matter the inferred intimacy, no matter the platform or its security.
  3. Consider (2) as true even if they somehow used Signal or any secure platform, because of (1). (E.g. “Hey, did you hear about $familyMember? Yes, the weird kiddo who forced me to use some strange blue shit for chat. He got positive on blood exam for $badCondition. Go check on him”)

As for whatsapp itself, i use Android and isolate it in a separate profile, also frozen until opened. I also used a burner phone number for account registration, not my actual number.

People are more receptive of whatsapp accounts with “alternate” numbers when you explain you “got hacked in the past” or any plausible reason.

LoveSausage, (edited ) in A question about secure chats
@LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml avatar

My way around the issue with the app and its collection is :

  1. Install in a separate profile with empty everything. (So they get an empty contact list)
  2. Install beeper in a different profil and connect WhatsApp to beeper.
  3. Remove all permissions from WhatsApp. There if I need to reconnect sometime.

Oh and using fake number is also a good idea. And yes not as good as selfhosting I know. Signal is an option if you can get them to switch. Telegram is crap.

noodlejetski,

so now Beeper has got all of your Whatsapp messages going through their servers, unencrypted.

LoveSausage, (edited )
@LoveSausage@lemmygrad.ml avatar

www.beeper.com/faq#how-does-beeper-connect-to-enc…

So yea a bit of trust put in beeper. Matrix bridge and self host is as I said better.

This is easy. For services that’s not so good to start with , like SMS , WhatsApp etc.

For sensitive stuff i use signal with a fake number. Or other channels.

J4g2F, in Plex starts narcing on its own users' anime and X-rated habits with an opt-out service, and it's going terribly
@J4g2F@lemmy.ml avatar

Everytime I hear something about Plex I become a bit happier with my choice for Emby as media server.

At the time of building my then server I could choice between them(jellyfin wasn’t a thing yet). Luckily I picked emby

finestnothing,

I picked Plex mainly because the lifetime sub wasn’t bad, and the features and polished interface were worth it. If Plex adds too many garbage/bloat features or removes useful features then I’ll jump ship to jellyfin immediately. Same boat for paying for bitwarden vs self hosting vaultwarden

Thann,
@Thann@lemmy.ml avatar

This is the problem with proprietary software, it starts out fine, but as it get more popular the value goes down

PurplebeanZ,

As a former director of a tech startup it all goes downhill when you bring investors on board to raise capital. I had to do many things I disagreed with because once you bring investors in you generally end up facing life ruining financial penalties if you don’t deliver what they want.

lemmyvore,

Well you also get a fast cheque in exchange for that, right? 😸

possiblylinux127, in Google Researchers’ Attack Prompts ChatGPT to Reveal Its Training Data

Now that’s interesting

billbasher, in Google Researchers’ Attack Prompts ChatGPT to Reveal Its Training Data

Now will there be any sort of accountability? PII is pretty regulated in some places

far_university1990,

Get it to recite pieces of a few books, then let publishers shred them.

Atemu,
@Atemu@lemmy.ml avatar

Accountability? For tech giants? AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAA

Chozo,

I'd have to imagine that this PII was made publicly-available in order for GPT to have scraped it.

Touching_Grass,

large amounts of privately identifiable information (PII)

Yea the wording is kind of ambiguous. Are they saying it’s a private phone number or the number of a ted and sons plumbing and heating

Solumbran,

Publicly available does not mean free to use.

Touching_Grass,

Think it does

RenardDesMers,
@RenardDesMers@lemmy.ml avatar

According to EU law, PII should be accessible, modifiable and deletable by the targeted persons. I don’t think ChatGPT would allow me to delete information about me found in their training data.

Touching_Grass, (edited )

ban all European IPS from using these applications

But again, is this your information as in its random individuals or is this really some company roster listing CEOs it grabbed off some third party website that none of us are actually on and its being passed off as if its regular folks information

Catoblepas,

“Just ban everyone from places with legal protections” is a hilarious solution to a PII-spitting machine, thanks for the laugh.

Touching_Grass, (edited )

You’re pretentiously laughing at region locking. That’s been around for a while. You can’t untrain these AI. This PII which has always been publicly available and seems to be an issue only now is not something they can pull out and retrain. So if its that big an issue, region lock them. Fuck em. But again this doesn’t sound like Joe blow has information available. It seems more like websites that are scraping company details which these ai then scrape.

Catoblepas,

Lol.

Chozo,

It also doesn't mean it inherently isn't free to use, either. The article doesn't say whether or not the PII in question was intended to be private or public.

Davel23,

I could leave my car with the keys in the ignition in the bad part of town. It's still not legal to steal it.

Chozo,

Again, the article doesn't say whether or not the data was intended to be public. People post their contact info online on purpose sometimes, you know. Businesses and shit. Which seems most likely to be what's happened, given that the example has a fax number.

Dran_Arcana,

If someone had some theoretical device that could x-ray, 3d image, and 3d print an exact replica of your car though, that would be legal. That’s a closer analogy.

It’s not illegal to reverse-engineer and reproduce for personal use. It is questionably legal though to sell the reproduction. However, if the car were open-source or otherwise not copyrighted/patented it probably would be legal to sell the reproduction.

TSG_Asmodeus,
Dran_Arcana,

I absolutely would

j4k3,
@j4k3@lemmy.world avatar

Irrelevant! Your car is uploading you!

Turun,

I’m curious how accurate the PII is. I can generate strings of text and numbers and say that it’s a person’s name and phone number. But that doesn’t mean it’s PII. LLMs like to hallucinate a lot.

casmael,

Well now I have to pii again - hopefully that’s not regulated where I live (in my house)

ares35, in Google Researchers’ Attack Prompts ChatGPT to Reveal Its Training Data
@ares35@kbin.social avatar

google execs: "great! now exploit the fuck out of it before they fix it so we can add that data to our own."

scytale, in Google Researchers’ Attack Prompts ChatGPT to Reveal Its Training Data

OSINT practitioners gonna feast.

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