rmayayo, (edited )
@rmayayo@lemmy.world avatar

Boost dev here. There should be an Ad icon on the top right to report the ad. Not sure why it is not showing in this case. I will try to block those ads in the AdMob console. Edit: Done

Psythik,

How about you remove ads entirely like other competing apps do? Until you promise that your app won’t advertise to me nor track me, I have no reason to use it over much better alternatives like Voyager that don’t invade my privacy.

Sho,

This is the stuff I come to Lemmy for. Love the quick feedback and positive approach to the situation.

a_wild_mimic_appears,

thanks for caring!

cashews_best_nut,

It’s always fuckin’ Ruben breaking shit.

P.S. I want a free license and a BJ. 👍

golden_zealot,
@golden_zealot@lemmy.ml avatar

Awesome, thank you.

BestBouclettes,

Thanks, absolutely love the app btw, I’ve used the Reddit one for years and the Lemmy one is just great.

Max_P,
@Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me avatar

The ads come from an ad network where there is very little visibility into what’s going to be displayed in your app. And bad people also keep managing to get their ads published even though the ad network doesn’t allow them

And it all ties into the whole targeted advertising, where they also make sure very few people get the bad ad, and tries to target people they think may be more susceptible to these kinds of tactics. Depending on the amount of interactivity allowed, the ad can even display two different things if it deems you too savvy to fall for it.

It’s basically unescapable unless you only use apps without ads, or pay for the ad-free versions.

The whole advertising industry is sketchy, more news at 10.

Thermal_shocked,

Dns adblocking blocks these 100%

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Pi-hole blocks ads served by these networks just fine. Never seen an ad in Boost for Lemmy or for Reddit, though I tend to use Jerboa now that I’ve gotten used to it while I was waiting for Boost for Lemmy to release.

DNS based adblocking like Pihole or Adguard limits you to receiving advertising hosted by the app provider (youtube for example) which is usually better curated than third party advertising networks and less commonly found at all.

knobbysideup,
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

To be truly effective you must also block DoH and DoT. The first can only be done with endpoint lists, since it is https.

N0x0n,

Hey, could you elaborate or send some lecture? I have the upstream quad9 DoH address in adguard. It’s supposed to better encrypt my traffic right? Never saw any ads or strange DNS requests.

Never heard about ads being inject though DoH or DoT, or did I misunderstood your comment?

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Theoretically an app could use a custom DoH endpoint to retrieve ads instead of the standard dns provided by the system. As this uses purely https without a preceding dns request, pihole/adguard would fail to block it; but it’s just not something currently employed.

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

Maybe in comming years, but I’ve never encountered an ad served explicitly through DoH/DoT. It’s certainly possible, just not actually in use yet.

You can also setup DoH front and back ends for pihole so traffic entering and leaving it is encrypted. When/if it becomes necessary I’ll probably look into https packet inspection using custom Root certs to force clients to use my local DoH services and block other traffic, or look into inspecting the SNI to apply blocking there; but again its just not needed yet and may not be for a long time. We’ll see. I’m sure the pihole/Adguard teams are also investigating solutions.

otter, (edited )

Yep, also the ads don’t get initialized at all if the user buys the ad-free version (going to top all in the Lemmy Boost community should bring up the post about it). It’s relatively cheap and the dev is very active with bugs and requests. The dev is developing for the Fediverse and I’m happy to support that (as well as devs for Sync, Connect, Lemmy, etc.)

I like Boost and paid for ad-Free, but a lot of other clients should work for your needs. While they might not be privacy focussed, many are open source so you can check what is going on.

My preference goes

  • Boost (not FOSS, one time payment to remove ads)
  • Connect (not FOSS, ad free)
  • Eternity (FOSS & ad free)

I uninstalled the other ones and haven’t kept up with them. There may be better ones out there, these are the ones I’m keeping up with

StereoTrespasser,

Love how the top comment is a rando saying it’s unavoidable but the dev literally says below that they fixed it.

brbposting,

The [exact ad from the] specific advertiser will never be seen again, so indeed the issue has been mitigated.

Other bad actors are still out there, though, hence the need for the report button the dev mentioned.

imkali, (edited )

Jerboa (FOSS. Play Store + F-Droid)

Voyager (FOSS. Play Store + F-Droid + PWA + iOS App Store)

Thunder (FOSS. Play Store + IzzyOnDroid + iOS App Store)

Eternity (FOSS. Play Store + F-Droid)

edit: formatting

Klear,

I need to do another round of trying everything. Currently using Liftoff and happy with it, but I should check out the alternatives anyway.

patawan,

Voyager is so good! Basically a drop in replacement for Apollo.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

As a user of RedReader since launch a decade+ ago, I dig Thunder. Simple, no bullshit, logical settings.

southernwolf,
@southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

10/10 for Voyager, with a shout-out to Eternity too!

pacjo, (edited )

Eternity is great and there’s a work in progress to add multicommunity support.

Also just like Infinity enabling amoled theme makes it look a whole lot more modern.

JustEnoughDucks,
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

The only thing it is missing for me is community search. It is great! Also the most customizable of the bunch in my opinion

soviettaters,

Jerboa’s great

hackris,

Please. For the love of god, NEVER use a proprietary app to use a piece of FOSS software. I think it’s kind of sad that we have this amazing FOSS social network and people use fucking proprietary software to use it.

pirrrrrrrr,

Open-source it a better interface then.

Until it’s as useful as at least Sync for Lemmy, people will use 3rd party proprietary apps

sir_reginald, (edited )
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

There are a bunch of good FOSS Lemmy clients, which I’d argue are as good as Sync or Boost (I can’t know for sure since I don’t use proprietary software, I judge by the screenshots).

Jerboa sucks, I’ll give you that. But both Voyager and Eternity are high quality clients that work amazingly well and are constantly updated. They have plenty of features and are very configurable.

hackris,

I mean isn’t Lemmy licensed under the AGPL? I’m just asking because AFAIK a proprietary client is not even allowed under this license.

SeriousBug,

You couldn’t make a proprietary server. Client is fine, AGPL doesn’t apply when you are accessing the server over a public API.

aspensmonster,
@aspensmonster@lemmygrad.ml avatar

AGPL doesn’t apply when you are accessing the server over a public API.

The AGPL does apply when interacting with the covered work (Lemmy server) over a network. A proprietary client would still nevertheless be required, upon request, to furnish you with the source code of the covered work it is talking to over the network (the Lemmy server).

boyi,

Do you really know what you are talking about? I think you’re bullshitting. We are talking about propriety client which doesnt modified the source codes of the server.

hackris,

Thank you, didn’t know this :)

vox, (edited )
@vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

i use sync. there’s nothing even close to the quality of the client. (The onlt client that implements material you in a fun and usable way, sync is usable one-handed)
I had been using Liftoff for a while (before switching to Sync as soon as it came out), which i quite liked but it feels a lot worse than sync

cypherpunks, (edited )
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

(The onlt client that implements material you in a fun and usable way, sync is usable one-handed)

Touchscreen keyboards and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

cashews_best_nut,

That’s silly and I’m a long time Linux user.

waratchess, (edited )

Voyager

It’s a FOSS privacy respecting Lemmy client.

It’s available on Android and IOS

You can also try it as a PWA: vger.app

labbbb,

Another one URL I use: wefwef.app

waratchess,

The OG

eya,
@eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Your lemmy app has ads???

Asudox, (edited )
@Asudox@lemmy.world avatar

Jerboa. It lacks some features, but it’s the official app and it’s also pretty minimalistic with its material you UI. Other than that Thunder is pretty good. They’re both FOSS.

harry_balzac,

I used Thunder at first but it would crash frequently. Why? I don’t know. It’d just stop working. Very frustrating because it is otherwise very good.

Switched to Jerboa after a couple of weeks and it’s been great.

ono,

I start with whatever is on F-Droid, and narrow it down from there.

Jerboa was the only option there until recently. I see Voyager and Eternity are there now. I’ll have to give them a try.

WeLoveCastingSpellz,

thunder is awesome too

refurbishedrefurbisher,

Eternity FTW

schizoidman,

Voyager is currently many versions ahead of the one listed on F-Droid. It is still usable but you may want to get the latest version from GitHub.

ono,

If new versions don’t make it to F-Droid, they might as well not exist for me. There are only a couple of apps that I find important enough that I’ll spend time manually building/pulling/installing, and a Lemmy reader isn’t one of them. Thanks for the tip, though.

carzian,

Have you considered using github.com/imranr98/obtainiumYou give it the repository of the app and it will handle checking for new versions and updating them

ono,

Part of what I value in F-Droid is the additional layer in the build/release process, because it makes tampering more likely to be detected.

It’s still nice to know a tool like obtanium exists, though. Thanks for the link.

jacktherippah,

This is exactly the reason why I don’t like F-Droid as a way to get apps. You’ll have to trust an additional party when getting your apps, and updates are often a couple days behind. I prefer to get it straight from the developer’s GitHub or Coderberg or whatever.

ono, (edited )

You’ll have to trust an additional party when getting your apps, and updates are often a couple days behind.

I know how it works, and in this case, that’s fine with me.

F-Droid has an excellent track record; better than many developers have. And I’m not addicted to having the latest versions of everything on the day they’re released. In fact, not immediately jumping on the latest versions has saved me from nasty bugs more than once.

FutileRecipe,

Part of what I value in F-Droid is the additional layer in the build/release process, because it makes tampering more likely to be detected.

Barely and not really. “F-Droid can’t ensure the apps are safe. You still need to trust the upstream developers. We only do some basic check.” forum.f-droid.org/t/…/2

ono,

N + 1 > N

FutileRecipe,

N + X - Y ? N

Except now you’re adding an additional party to trust (the -Y). So it could still be considered less secure than N.

ono,

So it could still be considered less secure than N.

It could be, or it could not be. Depends on the particulars, and on the needs of the individual.

Mind, I’m not going around presuming to tell other people what’s better for them, as one or two others in this thread are doing. I’m just stating what’s a good fit for me.

FutileRecipe,

Depends on the particulars, and on the needs of the individual.

That’s not really how things like security works. It’s either more secure or it’s not. The security of a thing does not depend on needs. Now, does the application of it or does someone need it to be more secure? That’s where risk acceptance and the needs of the individual come into play.

I’m not going around presuming to tell other people what’s better for them, as one or two others in this thread are doing.

Same. I’m not saying “stop doing this.” I’m just trying to educate people and make sure they’re not operating with a misunderstanding. Needs of the individual and all that. I think some people just go crazy for something that’s not big tech, and then quit looking at the particulars.

ono,

Depends on the particulars, and on the needs of the individual.

That’s not really how things like security works.

If that were true, threat modeling wouldn’t exist. ;)

I think some people just go crazy for something that’s not big tech, and then quit looking at the particulars.

I expect that’s probably true. It’s safe to assume I’m not one of them, though. Cheers.

FutileRecipe, (edited )

If that were true, threat modeling wouldn’t exist.

I feel like we’re talking about different things. I’m talking about static concepts, if X is more secure than Y, not individual setups where something is tweaked. Threat modeling is tailoring the security to your needs. It doesn’t bend security of a static object or make the application of something less than what it is. It requires one’s actions to do that by not utilizing it.

Take bullet proof glass, for example. Bullet proof glass is more secure than regular glass. Now, do you need (does your threat model require) bullet proof glass? No? Ok, that doesn’t mean bullet proof is now less secure than regular glass, it’s just unneeded.

FutileRecipe,

I’m not sure why people insist on F-Droid, considering the F-Droid Security Issues.

ono,

I use it because, contrary to what that scare piece you linked would have the reader believe, it’s better for my needs than the alternatives.

(I’m no stranger to software development and security, by the way. I understand the pros and cons.)

FutileRecipe,

that scare piece you linked would have the reader believe

So an indepth and critical analysis of something is now a “scare piece?” Ok.

folak,

Eternity.

13617,

PREACH, after using infinity for reddit for years this is the only app that I can ever be comfortable with. It’s genuinely amazing, thank you to the person who ported it.

Gooey0210,

This is the right answer

nezrock,

I use Connect for lemmy, it’s really great and ad-free.

HypnoticSheep,

I’ve tried all the other popular apps, and keep coming back to Connect.
The main features that pull me back are profile-specific settings so I can set up different accounts without having to reconfigure everything every time I switch instances, and the ability to customize post card quick actions, specifically the Mark As Read quick button combined with the persistent Hide All Read toggle. It’s just so convenient, I keep coming back even though it deletes my account info every time it logs me out.

itsnicodegallo,

Connect rarely makes it on these lists, but I think it’s fantastic.

daftwerder,

Eternity is great! free, no ads, and no lag while scrolling. it also supports swipe to go back from posts.

Rez,
@Rez@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’m so used to navigating in Eternity at this point that all other apps seem clunky and unintuitive

Oha,

same

knobbysideup,
@knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is why ad blockers should always be used. Small devs don’t have relationships with advertisers or control over what ad networks will do.

Or you can pay once and be done with them. I think the price of a burger is not a big ask for something you use every day.

I do both.

refurbishedrefurbisher,

Even the FBI recommends ad blockers for security.

THE_ANON,

Jerboa

sir_reginald, (edited )
@sir_reginald@lemmy.world avatar

As always, use free software. Look for Lemmy clients in F-Droid. Voyager is a good one.

unionagainstdhmo,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

It’s always struck me as a bit odd that people choose to use a paid proprietary app to access a free and open source social media platform which is developed and hosted entirely by volunteers based on donations. Whilst I don’t have a problem with people making money off of Lemmy apps, making them proprietary and with ads seems against the spirit of Lemmy

adrian783,

radiowaves are free, radio sets aren’t.

unionagainstdhmo,
@unionagainstdhmo@aussie.zone avatar

Transmitters aren’t free

ohlaph,

It might be greed or to offset their server costs. Or both.

hunt4peas,

I am using Voyager & Eternity and both have no ads.

SuperSpaceFan,
@SuperSpaceFan@kbin.melroy.org avatar

And they are free

trigonated,

Same with Connect.

averyfalken,

I use eternity chase its Foss and easily available in the fdroid store

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