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poddus, in (Please see comments)Alternatives to Signal if they exit EU due to ending E2EE

contact your representative! stopchatcontrol.eu

SirSmokeAlot,

Thank you!

nutshell7827, (edited )

I am not an expert, but chat control and interoperable protocols are two different things, aren’t they? With stopping chat control you wouldn’t stop the law that’s restricting signal’s e2e-problem.

Edit: As far as I can tell after searching a bit, interoperable protocols will be requiered by the DMA, but only for plattforms. So you seem to be right, that chat control will be the big jeopardy for smaller ones like signal.

TuxOnBike,
@TuxOnBike@norden.social avatar

@nutshell7827

Chatcontrol, the mass surveillance law, leads to the breaking of end-to-end encryption. Signal would have to follow this.

The Digital Markets Act, enforces the interoperability of major messengers with other messengers. Signal does not have to follow this because it is not a "Gatekeeper."

@poddus

Darkassassin07, in What is xtrapath3.izatcloud.net, why does my phone connect to it?
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macattack,

That’s a good read, especially the additional context at the bottom of the article.

FutileRecipe,

Not a fan of how they say “we didn’t say it’s a backdoor,” but have “secretly share” in the URL and article title.

Darkassassin07,
@Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca avatar

A backdoor would imply some sort of external control I’d think, a much broader potential for harm.

Being able to command a device to send you info or perform tasks is different than the device sending info of its own accord.

FutileRecipe, (edited )

A backdoor would imply some sort of external control I’d think…

Yes, technically a backdoor listens: csrc.nist.gov/glossary/term/backdoor

Being able to command a device to send you info or perform tasks is different than the device sending info of its own accord.

In this context, where it’s implied to send without the owner’s knowledge (ignoring the fact it’s documented), not really. The article screams “gotcha!” when in reality it didn’t, so they’re trying to backtrack and downplay their initial response. But I do appreciate their update, it’s just got a PR spin to it.

Edit: if the article was initially written as more of a “did you know” and/or expanding on existing documentation, wouldn’t be an issue. It’s the “it’s secretly stealing” that implies malice which is part of the definition of malware… that’shares a category with backdoor. So splitting hairs in the name of PR.

FiskFisk33,

there is an important difference between sending data and accepting remote control

scarilog,

Tldr it’s used to make initial GPS fix faster by getting satellite positioning information.

super_user_do, in It seems Gen Z is just fine with parents knowing where they are all the time
@super_user_do@feddit.it avatar

I’m a gen zer and I would absolutely freak out. I’d rather not going out rather than being spied 24/7 by my parents. Seriously, this is the best way to kill trust between children and their parents. Now even the social relationship between parents and children has to be extremely toxic and anxiogenic as a basic minimum requirement

cheese_greater, (edited )

That cant be real—holy shit. Thats worse than picking on kids that dont have an iPhone™️ or any phone or don’t have “the blue bubbles” from using iMessage (which nobody should ever use honestly)

derpgon,

Fight the system, if someone laughs at you for having a green bubble, just counter by saying you are special and they are just normies like everyone else with blue bubble.

cheese_greater, (edited )

I go even further and say “if you want the real and sick blue bubbles, get Signal”.

Otherwise, enjoy getting spied on and having all your data handed over from Apple and also iMessage is dogshit. Half the time it doesnt even get delivered/received and you have to literally call or message the person through some real stable means of communication to troubleshoot

Imma not even get started on iMessage --> skeleton key/zero-day purpose (this is conjecture but I vehemently reject any argument to the contrary)

derpgon,

Yeah, those people are delusional, but that’s what you get when you raise kids in a world where having expensive shit is more important than teaching them frugality, money saving, and being nice to each other.

Blue bubbles go brrrr, doesn’t matter the kid doesn’t have attention span due to watching TikTok all day, or eating junk food cuz parents order fast food and have frozen pizza every day for dinner.

cheese_greater, (edited )

…expensive shit…eating junk food…fast food…frozen pizza…

You’re hitting dangerously close to home here, lol

derpgon,

I mean, I do it because I want to, not because I have to.

Okay, sometimes I am just lazy and not doing it might make me regret it later on.

cheese_greater,

do it

Err—could you clarify what you mean?

derpgon,

Burying bodies in my garden eating shitty food in order to sate my hunger for human flesh which usually makes me go on a killing spree to calm my cravings for blood less productive.

Stumblinbear,
@Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

See the thing is I’m fine with it because I know my parents wouldn’t have spied on me 24/7. If they were helicopter parents and DID check where I was every hour of the day I wouldn’t be fine with it.

super_user_do,
@super_user_do@feddit.it avatar

My parents have always been VERY restrictive about anything but computers (just because they don’t understand them). However, I asked them if they would do it and they told me that’s damn outrageous

Grebes, in It seems Gen Z is just fine with parents knowing where they are all the time

Wow, the survey conducted by the company and spokesperson for the company all agree!

stifle867, in AirVPN discloses server seized in 2015

What else has happened in the 7 years that they haven’t bothered to mention? Absolutely NOT handled well as timely disclosure is a key part of that.

RootBeerGuy,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Exactly that. I don’t use that service but the past 7 years could have seen dozens of other events like this with less harmless outcome, and its clear they would not report these either.

stifle867,

Especially the way they snake around why they didnt disclose it. “We can only disclose now”. Why? They made it clear they didn’t receive a court order or anything that would prevent them. They specifically mention that it was only an informal phone call from a police department.

ErKaf, in BVG out here recommending the best 2FA Apps!

EhrenBVG. Wie immer.

bbbhltz, in Switching to more privacy friendly alternatives
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Of all the privacy-related changes I’ve made, Signal is the only thing I’ve managed to get anyone else to use.

It was a matter of saying “I don’t use WhatsApp anymore” and that was that. Some friends didn’t make the switch, but they know where to find me.

Quitting Facebook lead people to believe that I was in need of help, though. They thought I was crazy. Still, today, people ask me why they can’t tag me on FB or why I unfriended them. When I tell them I stopped using FB they’re shocked and say things like, “but you’re such a techy computer nerd guy.”

Quitting Google was confusing for others too.

frogmint,

“but you’re such a techy computer nerd guy.”

that’s the reason why

bbbhltz,
@bbbhltz@beehaw.org avatar

if only they knew how not-so-techy I really am…

wincing_nucleus073,

you’re a techy nerd and thats why you definitely use 1984book and give your soul to the zucc :D

Blizzard, in Google abandons “Web Environment Integrity”

I don’t believe them. They will try to do it again, slightly modified, under a different name, but they WILL try to introduce it again.

gravitas_deficiency,

And for round 2 they’ll try to be sneakier about it

intrepid,

No. That’s round 3. Round 2 is already announced - they are ‘restricting’ environment integrity to multimedia on Android webview. Of course, what they don’t say is that the feature is going to be developed and tested outside the view of the general public - since this doesn’t need to go through a public standardization like web specifications. Once they get that perfected, they will silently expand its scope outside webview and gradually into browsers with a new name. That’s round 3.

Fizz, in UK police urged to double use of facial recognition software
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With every single piece of news I read I’m glad I’m not living in the uk. It seems over the last 10 years it’s been getting more and more dystopian

throws_lemy,
@throws_lemy@lemmy.nz avatar

Remember the Fifth of November

catsup, in WhatsApp is Censoring your Photos, Videos, Status and DMs (Facebook)

Doubt it. It’s more likely that the video you’re trying to share had a weird codec or an exotic format. If you recode it in another format, you’ll be able to share it. You could try this using any video editing software.

N4CHEM,

Basically the same thing I replied to this same post shared on privacy@lemmy.ml. This 2.5 years old video proves nothing, I don’t trust Facebook nor Meta, but this is a poor quality post.

stifle867, in UK government keeping files on teaching assistants’ and librarians’ internet activity

“we need to break encryption so that we can stop terrorists and CP!”

Teppic,
@Teppic@kbin.social avatar

But they are taking about monitoring public facing social media - frankly I think it would be daft if they did not do this.
If a be teaching assistant starts publicly posting harmful harmful content there should indeed be systems on place to ensure this is identified and appropriate action taken.
If you post publicly you have to assume everybody, including your employer, might see it.

stifle867,

You definitely have a point with the public facing posts. However, I will disagree with you on two points.

  1. “Harmful content” does not seem to apply here as the article implies that specifically posts criticizing government policies were flagged.
  2. Even so, harmful content could just as well be classified through existing procedures such as members of the public filing complaints rather than simply “keeping score”.

It’s a bit different when your employer is the government as they should be held to a higher standard.

chemicalwonka, in What is your favorite cybersecurity tool and why?
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Brave is far from being a cybersecurity tool

My favorites tools in this image is Aegis and Signal

Zoidberg,

I have to say my faith in signal has been shattered since I got crosstalk on a signal conversation. I still can’t imagine how that’s possible but it was there, clear as day.

chemicalwonka,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Explain more I didn’t undestand you.

kadotux,

Please elaborate?

xilliah, in Chat Control 2.0: EU governments set to approve the end of private messaging and secure encryption

Naive. There must be more practical methods to counter child abuse. For example always holding people accountable when they are known to hurt children would be a good start.

GregorGizeh,

Its just pretense. Authoritarians want that data, corps want that data, so they push that legislation.

sibloure,

It’s not about the children.

rhythmisaprancer, in Perfectly legal for cars to harvest your texts, call logs
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

This, and the other things I read about (like subscriptions for heated seats) are what will lead to some bizarre third party hack market for cars. Instead of taking a new vehicle to a place for custom pinstriping or whatever, folks will get them privatized.

Anticorp,

Ideally people just don’t buy cars that require subscriptions. That’s what happened with BMW’s terrible subscription model and BMW stopped doing that shit. The only way to make companies stop doing shitty things is to stop giving them money when they do those things.

Whelks_chance, in It seems Gen Z is just fine with parents knowing where they are all the time

In this thread: people not understanding sampling bias. Of course everyone here likes privacy, and had friends who think similarly. It’s a privacy themed community on a niche tech forum.

neurospice,

Conversely, the sampling done in the GenZ survey was by the tracking company (who you can probably wager have a bias towards anti-privacy…)

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