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eestileib, in Vortex me daddy

I’ve done time in biotech and in applied physics, and damn the gear over in the APh labs is cool as fuck.

I want an optics table for mini gaming.

I want a device that cools itself to -76F, evacuates itself to intergalactic pressures, then heats up a coil hot enough to vaporize gold for…

Well, I’ll find a use for it anyway.

Tar_alcaran,

I want an optics table for mini gaming.

A highschool lens-and-prism set is like 30-40 bucks on aliexpress, including a triple laserpointer. Not quite an optics table, but I’m assuming you don’t do your tabletop gaming with orange goggles and/or actual half-molten minis?

eestileib,

I plan on counting fringes to evaluate distances for my 40K sessions.

And yes, we use a welding laser to stimulate radiation damage.

Stuka, in Joy

This system is one of the primary reasons I decided not to go into academia

F4lcon, in PI is what

It’s to make the numbers simple because they aren’t important, the methodology is

TheOakTree,

I get that, it’s like rounding gravitational acceleration (on earth) to 10…

But why don’t they just use 3, preceded by a “pi is a little more than 3, but for now we’ll round down to 3.”

jadero,

Especially given that using π=3 is accurate enough for most daily use by ordinary people for ordinary things.

F4lcon,

3 or 5 is equally inaccurate. Engineers usually round it up from however accurate they need it. Scientists usually try to use it to as many digits of significance as they can.

3 or 5 is equally inaccurate, it doesn’t matter which you use if you think that’s accurate. Most people, engineers and scientists and mathematicians, use computers, but you’ll find they can get inaccurate pretty quickly too.

Again, 3 or 5 is a meaningless distinction to round an irrational number to. 3 is not an accurate value of pi in any sense and neither even is 3.14.

jadero,

I would draw your attention to the difference between mathematics and reality. Although mathematics is extremely useful in modeling reality, it’s important to remember that while all models are wrong, some are nonetheless useful.

Thus, a household gardener or storage tank owner or a builder of small boats can choose the appropriate diameter of hose, tank, or pontoon very effectively by rounding PI to 3 but cannot do so when “rounding” to 1 or 5. In these cases, it literally doesn’t matter how many decimal points you use, because the difference between 3 and any arbitrary decimal expansion of PI will be too small to have concrete meaning in actual use.

Under the philosophy you are promoting, it would be impossible to act in the physical world whenever it throws an irrational number at us.

I don’t know, but I suspect that there is a whole branch of mathematics, engineering, or philosophy that describes what kinds of simplifications and rounding are acceptable when choosing to act in the physical world.

The real world in which we act has a fuzziness about it. I think it’s better to embrace it and find ways to work with that than to argue problems that literally have no numerical solution, at least when those arguments would have the effect of making it impossible to act.

Saeculum, in Joy

Researchers need to afford to live, and that money comes from research grants. If this was even a problem, which it isn’t, the root cause is capitalism.

AllNewTypeFace, in PI is what
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That must be from a Christian homeschooling textbook

GreenTeaRedFlag, in Vortex me daddy

I love labs were they are like “we use three tools. A toothpick you can get at any restaurant, a device invented in the middle ages that hasn’t changed and is still made by like 30 people tops, and the million dollar magic machine that we don’t really understand”

xusontha, in So proud. 🥹🥲

I wash fancy dishes Mom, you just don’t understand

Also if I’m not careful I could dissolve my finger lol

Hazrod, in Vortex me daddy

Each one of these costs more than the building itself

trailing9, in Joy

It’s inherent to grants. If you want scientists to choose their topics you have to fund them unconditionally.

trailing9, in internet points

To mention the obvious, it’s the same network effect that keeps people on X and Reddit.

Enkers,

Where there’s a platform, there’s enshitification.

trailing9,

To stay obvious, what’s fascinating is that those networks are small, its members the most intelligent people available and they meet each other regularly in person at conferences.

Why do they accept the lock-in?

sigmaklimgrindset,

They may be intelligent in their fields but that doesn’t mean they think thing through in every aspect of their lives. The status quo is the easiest thing to deal with they can devote more time to their careers/research

Unless their field is in social engineering, then yeah why are they going along with it?

saltnotsugar, in Vortex me daddy

Ah, but this one goes BEEP.

NoStressyJessie,
KevonLooney, in Joy

Scientists have been looking for funding since before the scientific method existed. Leonardo Da Vinci had patrons

jmcs,

Hey, some of the most famous scientists were rich as fuck and were doing research basically as a hobby.

WarmSoda,

Of course. If you have to work all day there’s not much time left for sciencing

torknorggren, in internet points

In my discipline we only pay if we want the article to be open access. Are there journals that charge $1000 and still put articles behind a paywall?

lol3droflxp,
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As far as I know, the big ones charge very high processing fees

LopensLeftArm, in you energy
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*the speed of light squared

Krukenberg, in C.R.E.A.M.
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