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shalva97, in So SBCs are shit now? Anything I can do with my collection of Pis and old routers?

Don’t bin them, sell them

JoeKrogan, in So SBCs are shit now? Anything I can do with my collection of Pis and old routers?
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

I have a microserver and various pis ( zero w, 2x 3b+ and a pi b)

With the exception of the zero w they are all still in action.

The pi b connects to the pi touchscreen and displays photos from a directory every 5 minutes.

The 2x3bs are running kodi to stream from my server.

The zero w was a camera recording and streaming 24/7 but I stopped it as I wanted to do other stuff with it.

cashews_best_nut,

I kept buying Pi Zero Ws, hats and phats then put them all in a drawer cos I couldn’t decide what to do with them. I think I’ve got about 7 or 8. I really should do something with them.

bfg9k,
@bfg9k@lemmy.world avatar

pwnagotchi family

cashews_best_nut,

Holy shit!! I didn’t know I needed this. I’m so building some - thank you! 👍

akrot,

Link for the lurkers github.com/evilsocket/pwnagotchi

Pwnagotchi is an A2C-based “AI” leveraging bettercap that learns from its surrounding WiFi environment to maximize the crackable WPA key material it captures (either passively, or by performing authentication and association attacks). This material is collected as PCAP files containing any form of handshake supported by hashcat, including PMKIDs, full and half WPA handshakes.

haui_lemmy, in So SBCs are shit now? Anything I can do with my collection of Pis and old routers?

I have a pi which I use as an apple tv/firestick alternative which works very well and would be pretty pointless with a larger pc imo. Servers I dont do with small PIs but indeed old computers. I think all kinds of ultra movable devices will be good with PI and derivatives.

For folks that want to get into it: pine64 is open source but I havent tried it yet. Thinking of it though. They even have a watch.

possiblylinux127, (edited )

The two things to keep in mind with pine64 is that they ship hardware before the software is ready and because they are less popular there is less support.

I like there hardware but its just something to keep in mind. The good news is that to my knowledge all of their single board computers can run regular linux.

haui_lemmy,

Thanks for mentioning that. Iirc they use risc-v chips and linux supports it so it should work I guess. Will check it out.

possiblylinux127,

If you are unsure what to get definitely don’t get Risc-v as the user land software is not well supported.

I would get a rockpro64

haui_lemmy,

I‘m hearing mixed things about risc-v. Its community supported. Do you have experience with the shortcomings?

possiblylinux127,

The main shortcoming is that the software hasn’t matured yet. Its true you could use Debian or Gentoo and get a decent machine but I would hold off using it for anything important. You won’t find Risc-V images on docker hub and flathub only barely has arm support.

haui_lemmy,

Got it. So except the OS, software is going to be pretty tough. Would that mean installing from source still works or not?

possiblylinux127,

It should

haui_lemmy,

Ok. Thanks. :)

mosiacmango, (edited ) in Is there an easy way to stream full bluray disc rips with menus and features over the network to my TV

Kodi can play discs if you rip them directly, menus and all.

If you already have plex setup, add the “plexkodiconnector” addon. It replaces kodis inbuilt, standalone media db with Plex, which gives some nice features like media sync between devices and intro skipping.

Jellyfin can do this with its kodi plugin as well.

MeatsOfRage,

Can you explain a bit about Kodi playing the discs? I’ve been toying around with this all morning but can’t figure out how to launch the ripped disc. I’ve setup my network files and browsed to the folder with the ripped disc but there’s no way I can see to actually open the folder as a disc that I can see and googling this has failed me.

mosiacmango, (edited )

I dont personally use this feature, but I know it’s supported.

I would try a different ripped format. They should be .iso files, which is a direct copy of the disc. Kodi will load them like a virtual bluray drive.

This thread may also help you if you run into menu issues.

MeatsOfRage,

Thanks! I’ll give it a shot

AbidanYre, in Is there an easy way to stream full bluray disc rips with menus and features over the network to my TV

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  • MeatsOfRage,

    I don’t think jellyfin can open bluray discs can it?

    AbidanYre,

    Oh crap, sorry I missed the part about full discs.

    drkt, in Alternative to certbot for acquiring ssl certificates to use with nginx.
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    april, in Is there an easy way to stream full bluray disc rips with menus and features over the network to my TV

    Why not just convert them and save 20gb of storage space?

    MeatsOfRage, (edited )

    Space isn’t really an issue for me and I already have converted versions of these movies. For a select few all time favorites and discs where the full experience is part of the package (like the Criterion) I want to maintain the full bluray experience with all the special features and menus.

    ramble81,

    I like full menus and unaltered files without layering in additional compression. Also enjoy the extras which is why I get the BDs. Space is cheap in this day so I don’t care if it takes up more space. Quality and features to me matter more.

    april,

    Plex supports extras just rip them to separate files. It’s true you lose the menu though.

    It’s just that the compression on the disks is not very good and you can easily compress them a lot more without really any noticeable loss of quality.

    cypherpunks, in Is there an easy way to stream full bluray disc rips with menus and features over the network to my TV
    @cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

    There is a version of VLC for the Nvidia Shield, but it has a somewhat irritating UI and I don’t know if it can actually read the menus like the desktop version can.

    i_am_not_a_robot,

    The Android version of VLC can play DVDs with menus, which is weird because the desktop version can’t out of the box for legal reasons.

    MeatsOfRage, (edited )

    Yea I tried this, I think the app versions of VLC only open single files, they didn’t port the open disc feature.

    eskuero, in Alternative to certbot for acquiring ssl certificates to use with nginx.
    @eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws avatar

    You could not use the dns challenge?

    crony,
    @crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

    Requires me to add cname record’s, which beats the purpose of automation honestly. Will most likelly move to caddy.

    brygphilomena,

    I thought acme or certbot could handle the DNS entries with an API call to your DNS provider.

    It may require another plugin though. Googling some variation of certbot acme automate DNS challenge will give you a dozen tutorials.

    crony,
    @crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

    Certbot has no support for vultr dns, not even with plugins. Already check.

    brygphilomena,

    Is there a particular reason you are keeping your DNS there?

    crony,
    @crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

    Nice ui, and I already have a vps there. My main dns provider is namecheap but made it use vultr under the hood because of the nice ui.

    brygphilomena,

    Fair enough, just throwing that out there as an option to move DNS somewhere that does have API access for certbot to use.

    constantokra,

    Switching to porkbun would make things a lot easier for you. DNS challenge is why I switched from Namecheap, and it’s less expensive and considerably easier to administrate.

    QHC,

    Namecheap API works just fine with Certbot DNS challenges for me, FWIW.

    joao,

    Being a bit pedantic, and could be wrong, but wouldn’t that make Namecheap your registrar only, which registers whatever nameservers you give it for the domain you own with the relevant gTLD entity?

    crony,
    @crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

    Yes

    MangoPenguin,
    @MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    acme.sh seems to say it supports Vultr: github.com/acmesh-official/acme.sh/wiki/dnsapi2#d…

    MigratingtoLemmy, in So SBCs are shit now? Anything I can do with my collection of Pis and old routers?

    The only reason SBCs were ever relevant is because of the excellent pricing, which has now been matched by used x86 computers. That and if the SBC had an open-source design/implementation (open schematics on RISC-V)

    cyclohexane,

    Not just the pricing, but also the low footprint, tiny size and fanlessness.

    Djtecha,

    Low power too. I replaced a x86 server with 3 PIs in a k8s setup for about half the wattage.

    solrize, in Alternative to certbot for acquiring ssl certificates to use with nginx.

    I used dehydrated for a while. It’s a quite simple python script iirc. It’s on github someplace.

    If your domain registrar is porkbun and you use their DNS hosting, they can generate wildcard certificates for you. It is pretty convenient though a little bit scary, since they generate your key pair and retrieve the cert from letsencrypt. But, since they run your DNS, they could do almost the same thing without you even knowing.

    Scrath, in What is your prefered way to get audiobooks/podcasts/ebooks for your audiobookshelf?

    I use annas archive for ebooks but I organize those with calibre, not audiobookshelf because I have a somewhat peculiar organization scheme that relies on calibres custom columns and export feature.

    My audiobooks I get from abtorrents but I heard great things about myanonamouse

    ulu_mulu, in Alternative to certbot for acquiring ssl certificates to use with nginx.

    What CA are you getting your certificates from?

    If Let’s Encrypt, have you checked their alternative methods to certbot?

    crony,
    @crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz avatar

    Yea I’m using let’s encrypt. Juet wanted to hear opinions from people who are probably more experienced than me.

    TCB13, (edited ) in So SBCs are shit now? Anything I can do with my collection of Pis and old routers?
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    What happened is that people realized what I’ve been saying since ever - that the RPi and others are a money grab because of all the required accessories while a MiniPC will get you way more power, stable hardware , case, power supply and everything in between for the same price (if you go for second hand). Here is are examples of such posts: lemmy.world/comment/5357961 , lemmy.world/comment/4696545

    For eg. for 100€ you can find an HP Mini with an i5 8th gen + 16GB of ram + 256GB NVME that obviously has a case, a LOT of I/O, PCIe (m2) comes with a power adapter and outperforms a RPi5 in all possible ways. Note that the RPi5 8GB of ram will cost you 80€ + case + power adapter + cable + bullshit adapter + SD card + whatever else money grab - the Pi isn’t just a good option.

    Either way, Pis have their use cases however in my opinion it was an overhyped product that sits on the middle of a market:

    • They tried to make the Arduino easy by adding an operating system and high level programming languages such as Python. It never made much sense, why would you want to have GPIOs directly on a “computer”? not reasonable at all. Nowadays we’re seeing a raise of the ESP32 devices that have 30-40 GPIOs and Wifi for 2$ each. Cheap, easy to develop and deploy and eating away on the Pi’s market.
    • Another typical use case for a Pi is some low power server, but while it is great in theory then it lacks the CPU performance required for the container-based absurdities people want to run and the I/O sucks. USB wasn’t ever a good way to connect to storage, let alone a USB/network shared bus like we had in the past. The new PCIe is questionable (look at the NanoPi M4v2 from 2018) and requires… more adapters;
    • Price-wise it doesn’t make much sense as well because a second hand x86 will be 10x faster at the same price point… and way more stable with more expansion.

    Now it’s all gone x86 and Proxmox

    Proxmox isn’t a new thing, in fact it is a pile of crap and questionable open-source that people still run because they haven’t discovered LXC/LXD yet. Read more here: lemmy.world/comment/6507871. FYI you can run LXD on your Pis and get both containers and virtual machines with it in the same way Proxmox people do with x86.

    The irony of this comment is that people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD in the same way they used to when I said that Pis were a money grab and x86 MiniPCs were way better.

    akrot,

    The mian issue with Mini/used PCs is the power efficiency. It’s just a waste of wattage and performanve/Watt is very bad, especially at idle.

    TCB13,
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    I would agree to a certain point. If you get a 10th gen CPU it is power efficient and there are a lot of gamers and whatnot selling those. Also there are a lot of MiniPCs that come with mobile “T” CPU that are very decent at idle.

    akrot,

    But idle still would run much more than 15w. There a very good compilation google sheets for the most efficient X86 cpus, but once you start factoring hdds and ssds, it’s only natural to go higher (20w-30w) at least. That’s at least double than rpis

    TCB13, (edited )
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    But idle still would run much more than 15w

    This isn’t true.

    • HP Prodesk 400 G5 i5 9500T > idles at 4.5W
    • Optiplex Micro 3080 > idles at 7W
    • Unbranded Mini Atom C3758 > idles at 3.5W

    Either way, quick math, on a 7W range were talking about less than 10$/year to run the device.

    Squizzy,

    Quite the teardown fair play

    jkrtn,

    Do you think the used server market is worth the cost? It looks like I could have a giant chunk of DDR3 for not so much.

    TCB13, (edited )
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t (specially DDR3-era stuff) because old server hardware is way more expensive, won’t be of any particular advantage and older hardware, compared to new stuff, will use a LOT of power.

    Instead use regular desktop/laptop machines as they’ll probably be more than enough for homelabs. You can a good 9-10th gen Intel CPU and motherboard that is perfect to run servers (very high performance) but that people don’t want because they aren’t good to play the latest games. Modern hardware = less power consumption, cheaper, more performance.

    If you go really low end, let’s say i5-6500, this will probably cost around 80€ second hand with RAM. You can use www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/ to compare CPUs the server hardware you can get with modern hardware if you’re interested.

    Most DDR3-era server hardware comes with RAID controllers/cards and other things that nobody uses anymore, people have moved on the software RAID be it BRTFS or ZFS and you will want to do the same. Servers make a lot of noise - impractical for a home - and a CPU from that era will be around 150-200W, you can get a recent i5 with more performance that runs around 50W.

    Another thing to consider: you’re trying to build a NAS get a basic motherboard with 4 SATA ports and then add a PCI to 5 SATA port card and it will be much cheaper than whatever server hardware. BTRFS as your filesystem and its RAID if needed. Now you may be thinking something like “I want a faster CPU in order to have fast SMB”, just don’t - your gigabit network will saturate before an i5-6500 or any mechanical drive does and when this happens you’ll be at something like 10-20% CPU usage. Just don’t waste your money.

    jkrtn,

    Thank you, really appreciate your advice. I was just struggling to install Proxmox on a new machine, and you made me take a step back. The kernel is messed up, do I really want this? Why am I jumping through hoops for this when Debian has zero issues installing? I’ll be trying the container software you mentioned instead.

    1371113,

    I’ve done the same thing as the person you replied to is suggesting for around 10 years now. It works very well for a home user because parts etc are readily available. Most hypervisors will run on x86/amd64 hardware without issue. Check out something other than proxmox. LXC is one suggestion. If you’re going to stick with Debian look into SAMBA with BIND to ensure ease of sharing and cross platform integration.

    Another reason to not get an old server is power, noise and thermals. They’re designed to live in an air conditioned room. Anyone who works in server rooms for any length of time will tell you to wear ear protection.

    chunkystyles, (edited )

    people will shit on me about replacing Proxmox with LXD

    From reading your comments I understand why. It’s in your delivery. You’re abrasive and you don’t explain why. You’re also telling people not to use something they know, to use something they don’t know, and not explaining how that would be beneficial. As far as I can see, you’ve only explained how LXD, when setup correctly, can do what Proxmox does.

    You’re essentially telling people to use something that is at best a side grade for reasons, and being salty about it.

    TCB13, (edited )
    @TCB13@lemmy.world avatar

    Ahaha I don’t explain why 😂😂

    I wrote dozens of posts replying to every single question people had about LXD/Incus. Gave out printscreens, explained how it works, what it does, described useful features and pointed out multiple issues of Proxmox. I can show you what roads you can take and why but you must do the work yourself.

    The same applies to the MiniPC vs Raspberry discussion as my price, performance and feature breakdowns and proved countless times that for a large number of use cases a MiniPC is better. Unsurprisingly this is the first of such breakdowns that got upvotes, and do you know why? Because a known youtuber in this space recently came out with a video saying the exact same things I’ve been saying and now it became “acceptable” to criticize the Raspberry Pi money grab.

    to use something they don’t know, and not explaining how that would be beneficial you’ve only explained how LXD, when setup correctly, can do what Proxmox does.

    Even if that were true, what’s was the issue then? Isn’t it obvious that a true open-source solution that is available on Debian’s repos from a fresh install is better than a half proprietary solution that asks you to buy a license at any turn? Use your common sense.

    Besides my comments aren’t a marketing campaign there’s no “LXD will make you rich today and solve all your family drama” as soon as you complete our three step formula:

    1. apt install lxd
    2. lxd init
    3. lxc launch debian debian-container

    The advantage of using LXD/Incus are on the details, not on a flashy and shinny feature. It’s about running a clean Debian system, a non twisted and mangled kernel that will conflict with everything and not run stuff like OVPN properly, it’s about the license, the tools, not depending on a company, not having to wait 3x the time before your cluster is online. It’s about having a decent API for once and so many others.

    Most people say they don’t want to be put in the same situation they were put about the the CentOS/RedHat licensing change, but then they proceeded to replace CentOS with Ubuntu and still use Proxmox. All questionable open-source that is as likely to fuck you over as RedHat did.

    So eventually there will be a video from some youtuber stating that LXD/Incus is much better than Proxmox and people will flock to it without questioning anything. :)

    itwars, in Joplin alternative?

    I do use Obsidian and you can use what you want to sync between devices by activating plugins. I’ve used many différent notetaking app and Obsidian make my day! obsidian.md

    chriscrutch,

    I moved from Joplin to Obsidian and am very happy with the move, but it’s not FOSS

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