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ShellMonkey, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]
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Anything that can can provide storage attached to the network is a potential NAS. It doesn’t take a lot of power to just offer and store files. If you start getting into stuff like live transcoding or heavy encrypt/decrypt that’s a bit different matter.

Illecors, (edited ) in Could someone explain how to set up a lemmy instance with ansible for an absolute beginner

Do yourself a favour and don’t host it, yet. Lemmy is not quality software. You have 3 options here:

  • pay someone to take care of it for you
  • learn more about computer management and computers in general, first; then host it
  • ignore the first two options, which will inevitably lead to your instance crashing and burning

Best of luck!

arudesalad,

Crashing and burning would be similar to most my other projects

caseyweederman,

I mean… You’d learn so much. Crash and burn maybe, but call it a win for all the knowledge you gain in the process.

LunchEnjoyer, in Those who are self hosting at home, what case are you using? (Looking for recommendations)
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Fractal seems far superior at least in the budget range. Personally just bought a R5 second-hand for roughly 40euros. Totally worth it imo 😁

Gormadt, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]
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My first NAS was an old desktop that I got for $300 running an FX-6300 and a GTX 550, I slapped a couple hard drives in there, installed Ubuntu, and made an SMB share.

I’d recommend installing TrueNAS Scale on a system rather than doing what I did in part due to it being so much better than what I was doing, but you could run it on a potato if you wanted.

Hell my latest NAS upgrade is going from a PowerEdge T610 (tower server from like 2010ish) running TrueNAS Scale to a normal desktop (from 2017) running TrueNAS Scale

If anything using normal desktop hardware makes servicing it easier than using old server hardware

EdibleFriend, in Could someone explain how to set up a lemmy instance with ansible for an absolute beginner
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Find some nerd and offer him feet pics to do it for you. Thats how I handle most of life’s problems.

wreckedcarzz,
@wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

Alternatively, if you are artistically talented, offer to draw them yiff in exchange for tech help. Humans are so 1990s.

HamSwagwich,

This is the way

retrieval4558, in Those who are self hosting at home, what case are you using? (Looking for recommendations)

I use a fractal design node 304. It’s pretty cool, but has all the limitations and problems you would expect from a case that size.

Cyber, in Those who are self hosting at home, what case are you using? (Looking for recommendations)

I have both Fractal Design and SilverStone cases… love them… but the internal layout is not 100% of the consideration

Have a think about airflow and cabling… some of them have weird air flow designs and if you’re putting the machine inside something, or next to something, then that can make more impact on day-to-day use.

For example, I have a Node 304 (not enough drive space for you) because it fits nicely inside Ikea shelving. But the front air flow under the front bezel did mean I keep that machine near the front of the shelf, not pushed back.

And also consider hotswap drive bay caddies that fit smaller drives into large drive bays. Sometimes these have weird power connections, but if you don’t have them do you have enough PSU leads? So, are they absolutely essential? Possibly. Possibly not…

Maybe not the answer you were lookong for, but those are my main considerations now…

zzzz, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]

Unraid is a great option for anyone, but beginners in particular. It does, however, cost money and isn’t open source.

comfydecal,

Thanks for the resource, might be good to at least research. Thanks!

BCsven, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]

You totally can, but since it will be on all day with 4 hdd look into wattages you want to live with. There are some small NUCs or Pi based NAS with low wattages. There is OpenMediaVault, FreeNAS/TrueNAS software to install

comfydecal,

Nice, good things to balance. Thanks for the info!

comfydecal,

Hey sorry, thinking on this more, could I just turn on the NAS when desired? What is the benefit of running it constantly?

Cyber, (edited )

Yep, look into Wake On LAN if you just want to power the NAS on remotely.

My NAS also powers on at certaIn times of day and off again after a while - IF - no-one’s connected / no network traffic / etc.

I do NOT need my NAS on at 3am…

Edit : forgot to say, check out OpenMediaVault

comfydecal,

Stellar! Thanks for the info!

lemmyvore,

You can also configure the HDDs to power down when they’re not in use. HDDs are the biggest power consumer anyway.

rentar42, (edited )

Note that there is some reliability drawback of spinning hard disks on and off repeatedly. maybe unintuitively HDDs that spin constantly can live much longer than those that spend 90% of their time spun down.

This might not be relevant if you use only SSDs, and might never affect you, but it should be mentioned.

BCsven,

You could totally turn on as needed, WakeOnLan is good for that. But typically when people run a NAS it is for streaming audio, video, file sync and backups and maybe docker running other services so the NAS is typically on 24/7 so it is available on demand. But it doean’t have to be 100% uptime if you don’t want it to be. For example I have two OpenMediaVaults one on a pi and one an old IomegaNAS. The pi is on always with an attached drive, and serves Samba Shares and DLNA/DAAP shares. Has docker running syncthing, CUPS print server, Trillium Notes, and homeassistant; so makes sense for it to be on all day, especially because my wife’s system backsup to it daily automatically. The converted Iomega NAS is mainly a backup machine sInce it is old and not as performant (only has 100 network speed. So that gets turned on to do a bulk backup and not much else.

snakedrake, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]

Yep. Just install Linux, plug it into your router, set a static ip, and install the nas software ya want.

There are plenty of approaches. ChatGPT is great at debugging issues and helping ya through the setup. I did this with a raspberry pi and external usb drive the other week.

comfydecal,

Nice, didn’t realize a NAS could be on smaller hardware. Thanks for the info!

nutbutter,

Some people even use Raspberry Pis as their NAS. I use an old MacBook (5th gen i5) as a home server with 2 external hard drives as a NAS, which also runs a few docker containers like Jellyfin. Before that, I was using an old PC with 1st gen i3 for all these things.

0110010001100010, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]
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No reason why not. May be a little power-hungry depending on the spec but if you already have it go for it. FreeNAS (now TrueNAS) is the usually suggested OS to run: www.truenas.com/freenas/

Since you have 4 HDD slots probably run 4 disks in a RAID 5 so think of how much space you need. RAID 5 is n-1 so if you have 4x 10TB drives you will be left with 30TB of space before formatting. You can calculate here: www.raid-calculator.com

Then either mirror the SSDs for OS and caching or just use one. Depends on your budget really.

comfydecal,

Nice, thanks so much for the info!

bc3114,

Maybe I’m dumb but looking at wikipedia I’m a bit confused. Seems like you can do this on almost any linux distro. What is the reason behind setting up a dedicated OS, cost of operation, stability, performance?

lemmyvore,

Not everybody has the knowledge to deal with Linux. A product line TrueNAS or Unraid has a friendly GUI that can be used by a non-technical user.

PupBiru,
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kinda the same reason people suggest something like linux mint over slackware, gentoo, arch, etc… mint is easy to install and is preconfigured to be an easy to use user desktop environment. you can configure any other option to be have like that, but they tend to be a bit more “DIY”, which is great if you know what you’re doing!

dedicated NAS OSes will have good software out of the box that make it easy to configure and manage various common disk-related configurations (RAID, SMB, NFS, etc). you can certainly do all this yourself, but it might not have a pretty, unified user interface, or you might have to deal with software that isn’t compatible with some version of a library that’s in your distro of choice… all resolvable things, but they take time to solve: anywhere from installing a package manually to applying a kernel patch and recompiling the kernel to get something to work

bc3114,

I see, thanks for the info!

cmnybo,

Power consumption is the main issue. If it’s an old, power hungry desktop and you live somewhere with expensive electricity, it can be quite costly to run. If you have an energy efficient desktop or have cheap power then it will be fine. Just make sure it has a good quality power supply if it’s going to run 24/7.

originalucifer, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]
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comfydecal,

Thanks!

jrbaconcheese, in Can I build a NAS out of a desktop? [Request]

Unraid as I understand it will do that

Sims, in How to selfhost a llm?

If low on hw then look into petals or the kobold horde frameworks. Both share models in a p2p fashion afaik.

Petals at least, lets you create private networks, so you could host some of a model on your 24/7 server, some on your laptop CPU and the rest on your laptop GPU - as an example.

Haven’t tried tho, so good luck ;)

SeriousBug, in Those who are self hosting at home, what case are you using? (Looking for recommendations)

I can vouch for the node 804, although I haven’t used the others so I can’t say which is the best.

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