Because while it may result in a stable, positive, loving relationship (or just mutually great, harmless sex that’s what they’re after), it’s a strong predictor when people are actively seeking a relationship with that kind of gap. Think about the likely reasons someone would seek that kind of thing, and the likely outcomes. I think it’s reasonable to look at this sort of thing with suspicion, but not to immediately dust off the pitchforks and light the torches.
Not all middle-aged single men distributing candy from the back of their windows van are paedophiles, but it’s both reasonable and responsible to look at what they’re doing with suspicion.
It’s interesting you’d bring politics into this when conservatives seem so wrapped up in protecting child brides, child beauty pageants, fetishise youth, and appear to be massively over-represented represented in paedophilia stats.
Nope, but that guy doesn’t get outraged with the idea of kids being exposed to sex acts. They just get outraged specifically by the thought of them being exposed to gay sex acts.
-Gender Queer would be banned from my old schools if the blowjob depicted on pg 167 was between a straight couple too, even despite the fact that it’s “strap on play” not “an actual blowjob.” It’s also rated 14+, so I could see why it wouldn’t be allowed in elementary and middle school libraries.
-All Boys Aren’t Blue I couldn’t pirate, so I can’t say beyond what I read about the book, which I don’t like to make opinions based on. So far all I have is an explitive count that would have this one banned in my old schools too.
-The Bluest Eye, seems well written, but “He wanted to fuck her—tenderly. But the tenderness would not hold. The tight- ness of her vagina was more than he could bear. His soul seemed to slip down to his guts and fly out into her, and the gigantic thrust he made into her then provoked the only sound she made—a hollow suck of air in the back of her throat. Like the rapid loss of air from a circus balloon. Following the disintegration—the falling away—of sex- ual desire, he was conscious of her wet, soapy hands on his wrists, the fingers clenching, but whether her grip was from a hopeless but stubborn struggle to be free, or from some other emotion, he could not tell. Removing himself from her was so painful to him he cut it short and snatched his genitals out of the dry harbor of her vagina. She appeared to have fainted. Cholly stood up and could see only her grayish panties, so sad and limp around her ankles. Again the hatred mixed with tenderness. The hatred would not let him pick her up, the tenderness forced him to cover her. So when the child regained consciousness, she was lying on the kitchen floor under a heavy quilt, trying to connect the pain between her legs with the face of her mother looming over her.” would have this banned in my old schools too.
-Flamer I have queued up for download right now, 2697th in line but it should go quick.
-Looking for Alaska, also in queue.
-Perks of Being a Wallflower I saw the movie and it definitely wouldn’t have been shown in my schools until at least highschool. Movie was alright though, I may read the book.
-Lawn Boy: "Goddamn-fucking-cunt-fuck-shit-ass-fucker!” I yelled. Yup, that’ll do it.
-The Absolutely True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, couldn’t pirate.
-out of darkness, couldn’t pirate.
-A Court of Mist and Fury: “I’ve had a long, long time to think about how and where | want you,” Rhys said onto the skin of my neck, his fingers Sliding under the band of my pants, but stopping just beneath. Their home for the evening. “I have no intention of doing it all in one night. Or in a room where | can’t even fuck you against the wall.”
-Crank, I can see why the rape scene would have it banned especially in elementary and middle schools, but high schools probably need this one lol.
-Me, Earl, and the Dying Girl, couldn’t pirate.
-This book is gay: The author claims we’re taught about straight sex at age 10, and this isn’t exactly untrue, it just was a bit different than:
Handies: Perhaps the most important skill you will master as a gay or bi man is the timeless classic, the hand job. The good news is, you can practise on yourself. The bad news is, each guy has become very used to his own way of getting himself off. Learning how to find a partner’s personal style can take ages, but it can be very rewarding when you do.
Something they don’t teach you in school is that, in order to be able to cum at all, you or your partner may need to finish off with a handie. A lot of people find it hard to cum through other types of sex. This is fine, and certainly not something you have to apologise for.
A GOOD HANDIE is all about the wrist action. Rub the head of his cock back and forth with your hand. Try different speeds and pressures until he responds positively.
A BAD HANDIE is grasping a todger and shaking it like a ketchup bottle.
Finally, my misunderstanding about rubbing two peens together wasn’t far off the mark – rubbing them together in one hand feels awesome – MEGACOMBOHANDIE (trademark pending).
TIP: If your partner is circumcised (‘cut’) you will want to try a drop of lube – remember he hasn’t got as much skin to move around as uncut guys.
Blowies: Oral sex is popping another dude’s peen in your mouth or, indeed, popping yours in his. There is only one hard and fast rule when it comes to blowies – WATCH THE TEETH. Lips and tongue, yes; teeth, NO"
I can see why that would be banned from school libraries as well. It is to say the least “different” than said sex education classes at 10yo. I’m fairly certain that if any teacher said “Oral sex is when the women pops the man’s peen in his mouth, or indeed, popping her puss in his. There is only one rule ladies, no teeth. (to straightify it)” to a group of 10yos they’d be fired on the spot.
Now, we can have the conversation on if “America’s puritanical views on sex and profanity need to change,” and I probably agree depending on what you mean (some people use that stance in an attempt to lower the age of consent so you have to be careful before agreeing), but as it stands now I’m not surprised any of the books I was able to access are not allowed in school libraries (which is what “banned” in this context means, because they are not banned for sale or ownership anywhere in America thanks to the first amendment, you are not banned from providing them to your children, and they’re available in most if not all public libraries that are not school libraries), and as they’d be banned if they were all straight sex scenes or straight people saying “cunt” I’m hesitant to claim homophobia specifically, rather I think it’s the same run of the mill puritanical views that got Tipper Gore all hot and bothered over Jello Biafra and H. R. Giger.
I wish I could have got access to the entire list, and with a bit of work I probably could, and I think having a centralized place for kids to easily pirate (read: get free access) to these banned books on their own would be a great thing, but I’m not surprised they’re banned especially if the rest of the books follow the theme of “sexually explicit regardless of sexuality and contains words that get you sent to the office for repeating.”
For individual workers, there shouldn’t be any stigma sround for them, they should be respected as much as any other worker. And the industry itself should become less predatory and workers should be protected more, I hear workplace sexual assault is common in the industry and people should be protected against that. Also another question in my mind is “If people depend on money to survive and if that money is made trough sex than is, sex work, rape trough coercion?”
My 2 cents, you never actually specified what makes sex work any different from a “normal job”. All you offered was your opinion on the work itself, and a false equivalence about the health of the worker correlating to the work they do. Your ego is blinding you to the fact that your thesis has not been justified, and it’s also telling you you’re inherently correct due to your own preconceived ideas behind the work.
The only real difference I can think of between sex work or contract work or office work or manual work…is that the sex one has the word “sex” in it. That word is very loaded though, and we all have very different emotional reactions to it, especially with how it relates to making an income in a broken society. That difference doesn’t make sex work unique though. It does make it a prime target for folks like yourself to treat it like it’s different and worse. You really have to zoom out of yourself to put us all in the same bucket, and that’s not an easy thing to do, to be fair, so it’s not hard to imagine why you might have an opinion like yours.
Having to work for a living is already an extremely sad and dark lifestyle. It’s inherently monstrous and inhumane, and antithetical to being a healthy individual psychologically, emotionally, and physically.
Compared to that, any hypothetical negative effects from sex work are as irrelevant as spitting into the sea.
And, frankly, sex work seems healthier, easier, and less emotionally taxing than most other alternatives, buck for buck, so if you’re gonna get fucked anyway it might as well be non-metaphorically.
It’s been interesting reading all these responses. I previously didn’t know that so many people on Lemmy see no difference between sex work and other work. Truly an interesting thread. :)
What’s the difference between selling your body to be used and abused, and doing sex work? Either way, you’re selling your physical form and mental energies to someone else, but at least with sex work you get to get off.
The reality of the industry is that large swathes of it are built on abuse, trafficking, and use of drugs for coercion. Not a fan of that. But I don’t think criminalizing sex work has done anything to help, and generally I don’t like taking economic opportunities away from people who are already historically disadvantaged.
Unions for sex workers is going to be so weird. What if they enforce seniority? If you show up to a brothel first you get Ethel and if you show up later you can finally get Skylar and if they are really packed you can get Jayden.
Fellow fluffers. We are fluffing many dongs but are we fluffing enough?
Ok that doesn’t sound like a good job, but how is that an argument that sex work is just like any other job? Have you ever had a good job? I hope you have, so you know the difference.
I’m a bit biased, because I know some people that were involved in both porn, camgirl, and OF work, so their opinions largely shape my own.
Surprisingly, “normal” porn is still viable as a career, with camgirls and OF creators often having an agency behind them to do shit like promote, book studios, hook them up with other girls for collaboration, etc. Some of it extends into porn too, and while I don’t know how much my friend was making from a mix of all three, she drives a BMW in the UK despite having a day job as a volunteer at a pet charity, so she’s probably doing fine. The way she described camgirl work was basically no different to call centre work.
It was all still thriving as an industry because people have their favourites, and (weird or not) some people like to find their creators so that they do more stuff.
Honestly, seeing how porn is (still) thriving has radically changed my view on legal prostitution. While I don’t know anyone inside that industry, my friend knew plenty of OF girls that were also on sex work websites, and it was crazy how many of them would pick up “extra work” to make more money - with basically zero protection that they would get from their agencies because they don’t want any involvement or knowledge of what’s going on.
Don’t get me wrong, the internet is constantly changing the industry, but it’s an industry that everyone assumed would die out for 20ish years now, and it’s stronger than ever. I think “traditional” porn will still be strong a decade from now.
I worked 5 years at a job that sucked the soul out of me as I devoted all available energy towards making sure I never got laid off, developing an entirely seperate personality that was better geared towards sales and customer satisfaction at the cost of my self-respect and personal relationships, dreading every day as though it would be the one to finally push me over the edge and convince me to end it all.
Work isn’t meant to make you healthy. The two often have a negative relationship with each other, in fact. Work is work. Let’s not pretend we’re above sex workers just because we’re not on camera while we get fucked.
I will preface this with I worked for an adult website in an infrastructure support role for several years. I really don’t have any problems with streaming camgirl sites or porn videos if the performers are doing it of their own free will. Camgirls can set their own schedule, it’s safer than doing the same in person, and there’s more privacy for them as well.
That said, many people get forced into doing things they don’t want to do when it comes to porn. The industry is rife with abuse and human trafficking. I’m pro regulation, taxation, and ensuring that things are above board with independent audits. The same goes for sex work.
Sex work is work. Decriminalise it, legislate it, create a sex workers employment category and taxation, require licensing and health checks, give copyright protections to content creators, to their images and likenesses.
Big uptick in the amount of human activity in space — tech there already, economy starting to manifest it. Like 10,000 humans in space at any given time, then 100,000, then 1,000,000, and so on
If we can get a slightly lighter solar sail material, that’s the last missing tech piece needed to send probes to Alpha Centauri. We’d need massive laser arrays so tech alone would precede economic manifestation by a while. Human laser-accelerated probes can reach 0.3 c, and arrive at the star in about 15 years. The probe’s design is the size of a thumb drive
AI is obviously making big strides
honestly my thumbs are cramping up, but there’s lots more. drone-v-drone warfare, all semi-autonomous
Growing perfect genetic match organs to implant
mRNA delivered by microplasmids is incredible. There are easily a million life-enhancing distinct uses of it that involve temporarily building any protein we want in a patient’s cells, endogenously, with controlled expression. That is crazy powerful technology
Fusion power’s like almost there. I think we’re at the “now scale it” phase
Bombarding Earth by hurling containers full of rocks out of railgun launch tubes on the moon
Sex robots
Translating to and from animal languages
Cloning, which has existed for decades now, is somehow totally invisible to media attention. Like, in the time since Dolly the sheep was in the headlines, someone could have theoretically produced an actual army of human clones and have them hidden somewhere
Telepathy via neural implants
That’s some of the sci fi stuff we either have now and just are too harried and exhausted to contemplate, or that we’re just on the verge of creating.
I made a post on r/civ (Civilization games subreddit) showing a really funky shaped randomly generated river I saw and most comments were fine but one guy was convinced that I went through the comparatively monumental effort of opening the map editor and changing the river for karma, as opposed to just starting the game and...
I used to love reddit. Especially because it was so diverse. So many communities living side by side generally pretty well (except the well-known toxic communities of course that we all knew to stay away from). And the everything-goes attitude, like people discussing religion on the same site as people exhibiting their sex lives :P I used to love seeing that kind of diversity (ok and the exhibitionism too, I admit 🤭, I’m just into that.). I just loved the everything-goes feeling about it.
But two things went wrong as I see it. One was that US society got more and more polarised and toxic due to Trump and most of reddit’s users are from the US. Even the people who used to be pretty nice are so triggered by anything you say “wrong”, they always think you’re trying to pull them into an argument for the “other side”. It’s like they have PTSD from being constantly attacked by the other side and it causes that knee-jerk reaction on anything that doesn’t fall 100% into their narrative. I got so sick and tired of that hostility especially because I was not used to it locally. That thing you mention, where you say something and someone always claims you’re making it up to make a point or karma or whatever is so familiar and tiring.
And the other thing was of course that idiot spez. Trying to clean up reddit for his precious investors by removing (or locking away) anything not above the belt, killing third-party apps, etc. I still go there once in a while to gather some information but I stay away from discussions and I rotate my accounts every couple of months. So I don’t give a crap about karma because I kill my accounts anyway. In fact even when I did have a long-term account I used to “shreddit” it every couple of months so karma was not something I ever cared about.
The sad thing is that this Trump toxicity has now even blown over to my country (Holland). They elected a total fascist 2 months ago and the same thing is happening there now, there are lots of people claiming they were never heard and now their hero is going to drain the swamp and kick out all the refugees and all that same old blahblah. Several of my “friends” were caught up in this BS and I’ve had to break off all contact with them. 😡
Even Lemmy is not free from this, I joined lemmy.ml for a while but I found it pretty toxic too. Lemmy.world looked similar. This is why I came here and it’s been great so far.
Is that how he got into bed with her or he’s just thinking about talking when he should be having sex?
In the moment, when I’m actually talking to a woman (or any person), it’s not really what I’m thinking about, but I do think about their anatomy and sex with a good number of women throughout the day. Just brief flashes of possible moments. Thinking about sex and talking at the same though is alot of processing power, I can’t do two things at once like that. Women though, are good at multi-tasking, so I assume they’re more likely than men to do that.
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What sci-fi-esque inventions are the most plausible and could happen soonest?
we need teleportation frankly
Can't relate to be honest, I still use MBR boot (sh.itjust.works)
Why are redditors like this?
I made a post on r/civ (Civilization games subreddit) showing a really funky shaped randomly generated river I saw and most comments were fine but one guy was convinced that I went through the comparatively monumental effort of opening the map editor and changing the river for karma, as opposed to just starting the game and...
Random 8 January 2012 (sh.itjust.works)