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TheSanSabaSongbird, 1 year ago to asklemmy in What are Lemmy's unwritten rules?

I think it’s way worse. At least on Reddit you can find smaller niche subs that are full of serious-minded, intelligent and well-informed users who have no time for pure amateur hour bullshit. R/askhistorians would be the premiere example, but there are a lot of others.

It’s only on the big lightly-moderated subreddits that your signal-to-noise ratio really goes to shit, whereas all of Lemmy seems to be awash in teenage level discourse.

Hopefully it gets better as its user sse expands and diversifies into more tightly-focused and heavily-moderated instances.

EnderMB, 1 year ago to piracy in Feeling the lack of moderation now Reddit?

I used to be a mod at /r/soccer, and it was a great way for you to lose faith in humanity.

We saw it all, racism, death threats, insults, even an instance where one user found a mod’s place of work and stalked them. We also had one guy that was obsessed with a footballer spam the sub with bots for several days, because he wasn’t allowed to post whatever he liked. It took the admin’s three days to fix…

More often than not, it was people that didn’t read the rules, and got upset that all subs didn’t run on the idea that “if people upvote it, it’s allowed”.

TheGreenGolem, 1 year ago (edited 4 months ago) to piracy in Feeling the lack of moderation now Reddit?

That’s basically the whole reason an entire instance popped up dedicated to the topic (db0) AND its main community is the 10th largest in the lemmyverse.

The main mods and a whole lot of people came here.

This is one of the success stories of a major sub migrating here.

NuXCOM_90Percent, 1 year ago to piracy in Feeling the lack of moderation now Reddit?

I mean, even a lot of the bigger lemmy instances are of mixed thought on whether to federate with “piracy” instances (I want to say lemmy.world federated and defederated a couple times?).

Reddit Corporate is trying to go public. The piracy subs were going to be purged sooner than later and The Exodus was an opportunity to move the community en masse.

sgtskully, 1 year ago to lemmyshitpost in subs > dubs

I prefer subs.

I have watched anime for quite some time now and started watching subbed, when I realized that the animes I liked were way ahead in the original version. Like a couple of hundred episodes for One Piece as an example. I got used to reading the subs in my peripheral vision. There may be some instances where I have to do a double take if there is an unusual word, but that’s very rare. English isn’t my first language, but english subs are more easily available. Outside of anime, I always choose the original version with subs as well because it feels more natural to me and I’m used to reading subs anyway. One good example is Sopranos, where the dub in my language doesn’t have any Italian accent whatsoever. The great mafia atmosphere of the original gets totally lost that way.

That aside I totally get watching the dubbed version. Today in times of simul-dubs you don’t have to wait for years at a time. You can watch dubs as background noise. The voice actors are usually great, even if not as consistently incredible as the originals. I always watch dubs with my family and friends, often shows or movies I already watched subbed. Watching something together for me isn’t about the show alone but more about experiencing it together. Watching subbed would defeat that experience as you couldn’t talk to each other as easily as with the dubbed version in your native language.

TLDR: alone I watch subs for the original experience, with others I watch dubs for the experience of watching together.

Mek, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago) to lemmyshitpost in subs > dubs

During my early teenage weeb days, I used to be a sub purist, disavowing anyone who preferred dub. I’d refuse to watch an anime with someone if they chose dub. However, I’ve changed a lot since then and now go with whatever sounds better to me. While some dubs are admittedly bad, others put a lot of time and effort into replicating the original Japanese feel, and they do a great job.

I’ve also noticed that certain anime set in specific countries feel odd in Japanese. For instance, when I watched Steamboy, it was bizarre hearing Japanese voices in the cities of Manchester and London. The Japanese voice actors struggling to pronounce English names and words fluently added to the peculiarity.

I don’t buy into sub purists claiming all English dubs sound the same. Truth be told, a lot of Japanese voices also sound similar. There are cliché voices that almost allow you to predict how a character will sound in Japanese just by looking at their design.

These days I’m firmly of the opinion; whatever sounds right to you. I don’t see the point of giving someone shit for choosing to watch a series in whatever language they prefer, as long as they’re enjoying it.

Quetzalcutlass, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago) to asklemmy in best app for lemmy?

It’s only available if your instance has updated to Lemmy 0.19, but you can download all of your account data and even use it to transfer your subs and settings to a new account on the same or another instance.

Look under

db0, 1 year ago to piracy in I just realized /c/piracy is the most subscribed community in the lemmyverse!

Each instance is showing how many from their instance are subbed. The parent instance should be showing the accurate count from all instances

lud, 1 year ago to piracy in I just realized /c/piracy is the most subscribed community in the lemmyverse!

How did redditors treat him? I was subscribed to the sub and I have no idea who db0 is. I recently learned that db0 owns the lemmy.dbzer0.com instance but I don’t know anything beyond that.

TheKingBee, 1 year ago to memes in I might move again. (Or not)

Over-moderation will kill Lemmy instances. One of the reasons Reddit became as big as it did is due to very light-touch moderation verging on “absolute freedom of speech”. It was refreshing and ‘alternative’ compared to the increasing sanitisation of the Internet.

That’s the sub not the website, over moderation is a feature of some subs, just like lemmy instances. Just like reddit, if you don’t like it create your own, unlike reddit you can set an overall tone to your instance.

MentalEdge, 1 year ago to memes in I might move again. (Or not)

Some instances are running on better servers than others, have staff that fix issues quicker and attend to updates sooner.

For example, .world is still on v18 while the rest of the threadiverse has mostly moved on to v19.

Some instances defederate certain other instances, so in some cases you might end up finding that a community you subbed to gets disappeared by the admins of your instance (lemmy.ml did this to ani.social a while back). Whether there are valid reasons goes case by case, sopuli.xyz for example blocks instances that are for porn, and I like it that way.

Though outward federation is a bit borked on there atm, so I’m using my alts…

But really, it doesn’t matter that much. If the grass looks greener, you can hop over the fence and see for yourself, and then hop right back if it turns out it wasn’t.

sqgl, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago) to news in Biden says Netanyahu must change, Israel losing global support

Haven’t visited those subs.

I might be describing beehaw rather than other Lemmy instances. That was why I joined beehaw, because it promised civility.

Tier1BuildABear, 1 year ago (edited 7 months ago) to asklemmy in Is Sync for Android worth the cost?

OH sorry I read your comment too fast lol. For that I used lemmy migrate on GitHub, I have about 5 accounts across different instances and they all have mostly the same communities subscribed. I just go in and resync if I’ve subbed to any new ones lately, and it’ll tell you which ones don’t sync (like if one’s defederated or blocked or something in other instances).

Just always be careful before throwing your credentials willy nilly into tools like this github.com/wescode/lemmy_migrate

Edit: I see the other guy responded with lasim which I’ve also heard is good

chumbalumber, 1 year ago (edited 6 months ago) to science_memes in Let's goooooo

My personal view is that you should always be wary of people asserting “this is how it is”. We’re in a science sub; we know that the purpose of a hypothesis is to rigorously attempt to disprove it and find counterexamples.

To discuss an area that I know some specifics about and can be more confident on: the historiography of the French revolution. Starting with George’s Lefebvre, the Marxist historians had a clear idea of what the revolution represented: a movement from the feudal mode of production to the capitalist, and so while their work is incredibly important and academically worth studying, they also tend to go into their work with a clear idea of what they wanted to find. So when the revisionists (starting with Cobban) come along, they find a lot of inconsistencies; the facts of the period don’t directly align with what the Marxist narratives wanted it to be (e.g. Cobban’s disagreement is that he thinks the feudal mode was near extinct by the time of the Revolution, and that it was more a political conflict than social).

Bringing it back to your question: I disagree with the narrative I put because I think reductive narratives aren’t helpful, and cause us to miss a lot of nuance. The nuclear family was dominant in England from the 13th Century onwards, but to leave it there misses a host of interesting social structures and changes (e.g. the role of the church and monasteries as social institutions that exist wholly separate from the family). Moreover, I don’t think it’s helpful to use the past as a suggestion for how we should build our future. The ‘return to tradition’ that’s suggested often has an idealised view of the past that misses all this nuance. The narrative around ‘ancient greek masculinity’, for instance, conveniently misses off their ideas around pederasty, which we perceive as abhorrent today.

As for reading, Foucault on how we like to categorise everything is quite interesting. If reading isn’t your cup of tea, the Thinking Allowed podcast from the BBC has an episode on Foucault that covers him that’s worth listening to.

blanketswithsmallpox, 1 year ago to memes in This is the year, guys.

It really feels like !sub should be the default but I get the issue. Different instances. But you’d feel like it would just default to whatever instance you’re already on lol.

The joys of being cradled by tech monoliths then going back to the stone age.

You’re telling me I have to type in the entire address!?!?!

empireOfLove2, 1 year ago to asklemmy in Corporate Censorship Bring You Here?

My personal experience so far is that the Lemmy community is significantly more responsive in getting rid of spam bots. I’ve definitely seen a few but they disappear in less than a day, and lately the amount of spam has been extremely minimal, almost nonexistent on my instance’s all page. Compare to Reddit, where spam bots might get banned from a few subs immediately but would often take weeks to get sitebanned, if ever.

Most serious Lemmy instances require user approval to join via the short application, which means they have no bots at all. And the big key is that lemmy admins are quite active and talk amongst themselves; if an instance with open no-approval signups gets abused by bots, other admins will talk to that instance about it, and most of the time it seems to get fixed pretty quick. And if they don’t… well, you defed them until they do. It’s pretty pog.

leraje, 1 year ago to asklemmy in How would you explain Lemmy/Kbin to a Reddit person or to a social media person?

• Like Reddit, KBin and Lemmy are 'link aggregators’
• This means, in subject driven Communities (sub-reddits), people post links or images or their thoughts and others comment on them
• Reddit is software that’s installed in one central location (server). This means it is owned and controlled by one single commercial entity.
• Kbin and Lemmy are both software that are installed in multiple locations (servers), owned and controlled by multiple people and can be installed by anyone. This means no one can ever own or control the entirety of Lemmy.
• Reddit, KBin and Lemmy can be accessed by users via websites or apps.
• Reddit is centralised. If it disappeared tomorrow, it would be completely gone.
• KBin and Lemmy are federated. If one instance (server) disappeared tomorrow, all the others would be unaffected and carry on as normal.
• All instances of KBin and Lemmy can talk to all other instances of KBin and Lemmy, as long as they are federated.
• Rule breaking and/or toxic instances/servers can be defederated by other servers/instances.
• Reddit, KBin and Lemmy are all free to use. However, with Reddit you must contend with invasive privacy and advertising. The way to support KBin and Lemmy is to donate to the development team and the server/instance your account is on.

lvxferre, 1 year ago (edited 1 year ago) to lemmy_support in Please reconsider removing user aggregate scores from the API

I’m a nobody, but I’m officially supporting this decision of the devs to remove karma (user score aggregates) from the API. Because karma brings on a plethora of problems¹:

• It is gamification of the system. As hinted by their PR, this is not healthy.
• It leads to less varied and less interesting content, due to the fluff principle.
• It feeds echo chambers, by giving people yet another reason to not confront them, even when moral and sensible to do so.
• It shifts the focus from the content to the people, detracting from the experience of what boils down to a bunch of forums.
• It is yet another reason for people to congregate in oversized and unruly communities, instead of splitting into smaller ones.

Re-enable it at the API level and continue hiding it in Lemmy-UI if that is your personal stance on the matter.

A lot of those issues will affect negatively your user experience, regardless of you using the karma feature or not. Simply because other people use it.

And it’s also the sort of "lead acetate"² feature that makes clueless users annoy the shit out of interface developers, until they add it. “I dun unrurrstand, y u not enable karma? Y u’re app defective lol l mao” style. With app devs eventually caving in.

As such, “leave it optional” is probably a bad approach.

Considering how easy it is to spin up troll accounts or amass multiple troll accounts across multiple instances, removing a useful metric for identifying them at a glance is, IMO, irresponsible.

This is a poor argument. It has some merit in Reddit³, but not in Lemmy.

You aren’t identifying trolls by karma. You’re assuming that someone is a troll, based on a bad correlation. Plenty users get low karma for unrelated reasons (false positive - e.g. newbie user unknowingly violating some “unspoken rule” of the local echo chamber), and plenty trolls get past your arbitrary karma wall³ (false negative).

So relying on karma to decide who’s a troll is not as effective as it looks like, and it’s specially unfair to newcomers, thus discouraging the renovation of the community. IMO it’s a damn shitty moderator practice.

Since trolling is mostly an issue when you get the same obnoxious troll[s] coming back over and over and over, under new accounts, to post gaping anuses again, and mods have no way to detect if the troll came back, mods should be upstreaming this issue to the admins of the instance of their comm - because the admins likely have access to your IP⁴, and can prevent the user from creating a new trolling account every 15 days.

And, if for some reason the admins are uncaring or uncooperative, the mods should be migrating the comm to another instance.

What Lemmy needs is not to enable shitty moderation practices. It needs better mod tools to enable good moderation practices:

• the context of the content being reported should be immediately obvious, no clicks needed
• there should be a quick way to check all submissions/comments of a user to your community
• there should be a way to keep notes about users, and share them with the rest of the mod team
• some automod functionality. Such as automatically reporting (not removing!) content or replying to the user based on a few criteria defined by the mods.

e.g. #2: If someone posts a particularly toxic comment but their score is high, I’m more likely to read through their history and conclude they’re having a bad day or something. Without the score, I will not read through and likely just ban them and move on.

IMO this is also a shitty moderation practice. Should I go further on that? [Serious/non-rhetorical question.]

NOTES:1. Since this is already a huge wall of text I didn’t go deep on each of those claims, but I can do so if desired/requested. 2. It’s sweet but poisonous. 3. Because in Reddit you can’t “migrate your sub to another Reddit instance”, and the only instance there happens to be administered by arsehats who give no fucks about you or your sub. It’s a dirtier situation that warrants dirtier solutions. 4. Anecdote exemplifying this claim: from 2020~22 I had multiple trolling accounts in Reddit, to shitpost in cooking subs (for some puzzling reason they’re cesspools). Guess how many times this sort of “you need more karma to post here” barrier locked me out? Zero. It’s simply too easy to comment some shitty one-line in a big community (I used r/askreddit for that) and amass 500, sometimes 2k karma points in a single go. 5. If instance admins do not have access to the IPs of the users engaging with their instances, regardless of where they registered in, that should be fixed.

ccunning, 1 year ago to asklemmy in Moderation for large brand communities

Reddit was/is first come first serve (not exactly sure how it is now post-mod-strike). Whoever started a sub “owns” the sub. Any sub could choose to lick boots or talk shit for or against any company. The site admins would rarely if ever step in.

It’s essentially the same with lemmy but each instance’s admins will set their own rules for when to step in. It doesn’t really matter because a company could (and honestly probably should) start their own instance if they care to control messaging.

Likewise, anyone wishing to be critical of a company can always start their own instance and then they have the final say without worrying about how a particular instance admin might react.

This is one of the built in advantages of federation.