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[ … ] what is it about DEs - or tbh more accurately, Gnome specifically - that has people being like “this isn’t what I want, therefore it’s a piece of SHIT. Why do they hate their users? Why do the users use it? Don’t they realise the devs hate them??”

You’re comparing Gnome and distributions which isn’t a very good comparison. Firstly because distributions are pretty much interchangeable, despite what people say, as they all pretty much do the same thing and install the same software, and secondly because Gnome has some history behind it.

In the early days, there wasn’t really much of a choice as far as desktop environments were concerned. You had a few fairly nice (for the time window managers), but if you wanted something integrated, there was Gnome or KDE. And KDE relied on the non free (at the time Qt). However Gnome kept changing and breaking stuff. The users kept asking the devs not to do it, and the devs quite literally told them to fuck off. A good number of people grew resentful towards the whole project around that time (and notably towards de Caza, who managed the whole thing). Soon enough Qt was freed, and many moved to KDE where the devs listened to users, where the concept was to empower and not to coerce. The difference was simply amazing.

I just suspect that you came in late to the show. I’ve had Linux on my desktop for close to 30 years now. So maybe Gnome got better, but it’s too late. They burned their bridges. As far as I’m concerned, it’s their turn to fuck off.

Now you know why there’s bad feelings towards them.

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It was pretty much the same story for me (although much earlier, in the 1.2 days I think).

Gnome was great but you couldn’t rely on anything. They loved removing stuff to make it more “lean” or changing it to match their “vision”. They didn’t care about their users, only their circlejerk.

I’m not sure it has changed a lot in since then. I’m glad I dropped that dumpster fire. I still have no idea why it’s the default on so many systems.

At least there are many great options for those who want something else.

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Heh, same time for me. Ran great on my 486 with a Tseng card.

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Android really drew the short straw as far as file system support is concerned. No Ext4 (or anything else for that matter) , no windows filesystems… just plain fat (or exfat). Pityful.

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Bosch os common throughout Europe. In the US it probably suffers from the not invented here syndrome. Or maybe just heavy taxes, or they don’t think blue is manly enough. Who can tell?

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There is such a thing as too much entertainment.

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Can you install MacOS by Zorin™ on something else? I suppose there’s a source repository somewhere and you can always compile it if you really want it…

Is Ubuntu deserving the hate? (lemmy.ml)

Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all...

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I also used it and dropped it years ago because it tended to break a lot in updates.

That, their poor kde support, their constant reinventing the wheel (poorly) drove me away.

Now I run opensuse as a rolling distro that’s always up to date and just never breaks even when there are 6000 packages to update. It’s boring and safe.

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Or get the kde version and install another kde distribution, just to show them.

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US people: 50 countries of white people! that’s not diversity!

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Too little, too late. Kde does everything, already did ages ago. There’s no reason for switching.

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Deadly Dentists didn’t get good until season 2 anyway.

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It’s 7 hours when you factor in the updates and the time spent having to go fish for software all over the Internet.

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I’ll assume that was meant to be WiFi. It’s indeed one of the few components that’s easy to swap (a new one is about 30€), as long as it’s accessible (it usually is).

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I don’t think anyone ever trusted the US with anything,with or without Trump. However the US are unavoidable, so we have to work with them.

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They accidentally poisoned all the birds. Sorry about that.

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Uplifting news from the US are from the upside down world.

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