“Conservatives” haven’t wanted to conserve anything in a very long time. They want to prop up the rich with government subsidies, hurt the poor, control the women, and hopefully kill some sick people along the way. That’s a damned far sight from conserving traditional American values.
Yeah right. If he wins, he’s free. Shame on the justice department for not completing a single trial in FOUR FUCKING YEARS. Have they even started any of them? No way any of them are wrapped up before the election. The wheels of justice turn slowly. Yeah, yadda yadda yadda. They’re barely turning at all against this fat fucking loser.
Oh, you mean the court that trump himself stacked in favor of the GOP? The same court that has voted along party lines in like 98% of their rulings? Impartial my ass!
He’s not funding a “genocide thing”. The US has subsidized Israel for decades. Not yanking all of our support because they responded to a terrorist attack on their civilian population is not the same as “funding a genocide thing”.
Things are not worse. Life for the average American is significantly better now than it was in 2020. I guess everyone’s already forgotten the shambles our society was in during the 2020 election?
But that doesn’t mean Israels solution of “kill them all and let god sort them out” is remotely acceptable.
I completely agree with you there. The whole situation is fucked up, and neither side is making any effort to take the high road. I get that the hamas doesn’t have that luxury, being underdog rebels and all, but it’s not like their goals are benevolent either. One of their stated goals is the complete destruction of Israel, and the Jews. Israel, being the well armed and well funded nation, should be taking steps to respond in an ethical manner, but they’re sinking to the goals of their enemies. Or maybe those were always their goals anyways, and the hamas attack gave them an excuse. I don’t pretend to be an expert on Israel Hamas relations. I just don’t think that Biden can be judged too harshly for not immediately yanking decades of history with Israel. For one, if the US stops supporting Israel, Israel will likely cease to exist shortly afterwards. Anyways, I’m going way off the original topic, so I apologize for that. The overall point I’m trying to make is that I agree with you, but acknowledge the complexity of the situation.
Okay, so they want to destroy Israel, and Zionists, which they conflate with the Jewish people. It’s kind of splitting hairs. No? If their only issue was opposition to Israeli occupation, then it would be a lot easier to sympathize with them, but they are a Muslim extremist organization that wants the destruction of Israel.
Since its creation in December 1987, Hamas has invoked militant interpretations of Islam to spearhead a Sunni extremist movement committed to destroying Israel.
That comes from this website , but can be found just about anywhere. Even your own document lists this opposition:
The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah
To be clear, I think the human rights violations perpetrated in Gaza are atrocious. The bombing of civilians and civilian targets is awful. But Hamas isn’t some benevolent organization that is taking a beating through no fault of their own, and they would perpetrate the same or worse against Israel if they had the power to do so.
It’s surprising to me that there’s so much pandering to Hamas on this website, from a group of people who are generally vehemently opposed to religion, and especially religious extremism. Hamas are religious extremists, with a violent perspective towards outsiders, and an abusive relationship with women. Ultimately what I’m saying is that what Israel is doing is wrong. Full-stop. Also, the goals of Hamas are wrong. Full-stop. That said, Biden’s involvement is circumstantial, since he inherited a government with a history of aid to Israel, and has merely not revoked it. I support Bernie’s proposition yesterday, to require the US Secretary of State to report on Israel’s humanitarian violations or withhold their aid. Unfortunately the Senate voted overwhelmingly against that measure, 71-11, if my memory serves correctly.
And second, you do realize saying that separating Jewish people from zionists is like “splitting hairs” is anti-semetic right?
That wasn’t my opinion. What I read in their charter that you shared is that they associate all of Israel with Zionism. So their statement that they don’t want the destruction of the Jews, only the destruction of Zionism and Israel, is semantics. If they state that all of Israel is Zionist, and Israel is the home of the Jewish people, then they are still advocating the destruction of the Jewish people. That’s what I meant by “splitting hairs”.
What do you propose? The Jewish people have just as much right to exist as every other people. They have a long and storied history in that region, and eons long conflict with Palestine. This isn’t their first time occupying that region. So how is Palestine’s claim to the entire region of Israel more legitimate than Israel’s claim? Just because they have been there without Israel more recently? I do agree that Israel should pull out of Palestine, but I don’t agree that that includes the entire territory of their whole nation.
The Iranian Islamic revolution of 1979 overthrowing the US-backed monarchy was also deeply religious, and resulted in a drastically improved quality of life for everyone in the nation.
I strongly disagree. Women lost the majority of their rights because of that revolution, and live heavily oppressed now. People lost a lot of their liberty, and they’re subject to religious law, which is imposed upon them. My best friend’s wife is from Iran. Her parents still live in Iran. She has a very large family, all of whom I am close with, and not a single one of them views the Islamic State of Iran as an improvement to the conditions in the country prior to the revolution. Granted, their opinions aren’t necessarily representative of every person in Iran, but they’re as close as I can personally get to that situation. I trust their judgement and intellect, so I tend to believe the things they tell me.
We’re getting further away from the actual topic of discussion though, which was that Biden is funding and supporting genocide. I think I’ve already made my position on that clear, so I won’t burden you with it again.
I appreciate you taking the time to share your perspective with me, and discuss this in a civilized manner.
The aim of the Palestinian liberation movement is to establish a democratic national state in which both Arabs and Jews will live as citizens with equal rights and obligations and that will constitute an integral part of the progressive democratic Arab national presence living peacefully with all forces of progress in the world.
That sounds great! That sounds like a solution. Unfortunately it’s not a very realistic one, especially since they’re a religious extremist group, and I don’t imagine their view of democracy to be actual democracy, nor can I imagine them supporting a separation of church and state. If that’s the case, then it just results in the same situation, but with the actors swapped, and the Jewish people living under Muslim oppression. Idk about you man, but I feel that the Jews have suffered at the hands of extremist groups enough for one people. But hey, maybe my assumptions are wrong, and they would legitimately establish a free and fair democracy. That would be an amazing resolution to the problem. But since we know it’s a multi-national problem, with Europe, the USA, and several Middle Eastern countries all wanting a piece of the pie, it seems very implausible. It’s a nice hope though, and I think most actual people would support it.
It is a huge driving force and a major part of their motivations. You can’t ignore it, and raising concerns about it is not racist. It’s not even a statement about race, it’s about religion. Rather than acknowledging it is a valid concern, you call me a racist? Okay then. I guess the conversation is over. Thanks for sharing your viewpoints though. You did raise valid points, and I felt that we were communicating well, and pretty much in agreement at the end there. Cheers.
Edit: and in case it was somehow unclear, I already stated that I think Israel should be held accountable for their human rights violations, and I think the situation over there is an enormous tragedy.
How have I never noticed this?!? What the fuck? I’m like middle aged and have liked dragons as long as I can remember, and I never noticed the difference. Dayum dude, don’t trust me as a material witness, that’s for sure!
Thank you, and I agree. It’s interesting to me that the majority opinion on this site is that hoarding money is greedy and evil, yet those same people also refuse to spend it on any major life events. What good is our money to us if we can’t use it to make our loved ones feel appreciated, and our major life events special?
Even if I was evil, I’d never team up with someone like him, unless he could provide me with something that I couldn’t obtain without him. He’s incredibly selfish, arrogant, and condescending. I can’t see any evil -or even any good- character I play tolerating his banter, and demands. The only reason I didn’t kill him outright in the first playthrough was because he killed me when I tried. LOL. I just wasn’t powerful enough the first time through.
That’s good to hear! I haven’t played durge yet, I just read a lot of feedback that it’s lacking quests and gear. I’m planning on playing as durge on my next playthrough. Are there special dialogue options if I choose the white dragonborn character instead of making a custom one?
Funny. I did the same thing yesterday, I wrote out a very long response to the completely wrong person, on a completely different post, because I was having two similar conversations.
I think Gale is pretty cool. He chills out on the Goodie-Two-Shoes act in act 3 when some opportunities present themselves. Idk if he only goes that direction if you push him in that direction, but push I did! He’s smart, and capable, and pliable too.
About to get drafted (startrek.website)
Every goddamn time (sh.itjust.works)
WW1 French Rifleman Behind Mobile Armored Shield (lemmy.world)
He'll be the death of us all. (lemmy.world)
It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.
Dragons (slrpnk.net)
A wholesome relationship (lemmy.world)
Maybe if there's DLC (startrek.website)