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Last Jedi leagues better than Phantom Menace.

“No. No. That’s not true. That’s impossible!”

CosmicCleric, (edited )
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Aren’t we all tired of this meme by now? Especially in this new age of Steam deck?

Seems a bit like trolling at this point.

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This is a neutral post and it isn’t anti-boomer per se.

It’s a little disingenuous to say that though .

How is presented to us, in this Lemmy post, isn’t really neutral though, it leans towards one point of view.

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I think you’re agreeing with me there

Fair enough, yep, sorry for the confusion.

I just wanted to be explicit and generally push back against the notion that Americans don’t want other choices to vote for, especially in this election cycle.

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The problem there isn’t that we (assuming the US) don’t want third parties,

That’s not true. People don’t vote for third party because of the self-fulfilling prophecy, but it doesn’t mean they don’t want it. They also want ranked-choice voting.

I would advocate to put that self-fulfilling prophecy to the test, even if just as an experiment one time.

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No other arbitrary age cohort has been so unjustly hated in American history

You talking about Boomers, or Gen-Xers?

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Boomers vote GOP who gives tax breaks to the rich.

Generalizations 4TW! /s

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Get out and vote. Run for office - local politics is where you start - get involved. Be that change.

It really just comes down to this.

But it takes more effort to do so, than comment on an Internet forum.

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Wait, why do you consider learning about things initially through social media a bad thing?

Sure there is a ton of nonsense and outright lies out there

You answered your own question.

For the record, I’m distinguishing between “Social Media” and “the Internet”. The former is for entertainment, and the latter is for learning/knowledge.

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Every generation can see right from wrong. The problem is we’re not all agreeing on what is right and what is wrong.

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So it takes 20 years for a sexed up WW2 vet to hop in the sack after returning from the war?

Fuck if I know, that’s not what I’m speaking about.

You don’t pop out of your mother’s womb already programmed to have an understanding of the socieity that you live in. You learn as you go from external sources (parents, family, society) and you act a certain way at each milestone of your life (child, young teenager, older teenager, young adult, adult, middle aged, senior).

When we all judge someone by applying a generation label its done based on how they act/opine, and not the chronological date that they entered the World. There’s a lag/delay from when a person starts to exist on this Earth to the time they form a personality and express said personality.

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Here’s to hoping. It’s exhausting. I can’t have a single conversation without them slyly trying to slip in some earworm or go off on a tirade unexpectedly because I inadvertently trigger them.

It’s worth the effort though. Thank you, citizen, for taking the time to do so.

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I have served in local politics and public safety

Thank you for your service, citizen.

but my time is long past.

There are always advisory positions available.

It’s well past time the next generations start to run things and I’m tired of waiting.

Well, you know what they say about Power and Vacuums, they get filled, and the current stock of power lords will die off eventually.

So at some point they’ll run for office (if they can put their phones down long enough to do so ( I kid! I kid! :p )).

To be fair though, we’re not making their (future) elected jobs any easier by fucking things up today and doing our elected jobs poorly; its a team effort.

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mildly interesting- that boomers just hit 1/3 dead.

I do wonder about the accuracy of that though. It’s not like the website owner went through every death certificate ASAIK.

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You can infer the age you entered society from the age you left the womb.

That doesn’t work. Technically I’m a Boomer, but I act and think completely like a Gen-Xer.

In fact growing up I used to give Boomers crap myself, until I got more wise. They acted completely different from me, based on the times they grew up in.

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Yeah, not like boomers blame millenials or gen Z for everything. Oh wait.

Maybe we should stop dividing up into age tribes and attacking each other?

The problems we face affect every age in the same way.

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…as long as choice #3 isn’t apocalyptically bad, right?

Right?

That’s only true if everyone believes that, a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Would really be fantastic to see just once, one time, everyone interconnects on social media and agrees to vote on a third party, as an experiment if nothing else, to finally prove/disprove that theory.

Funny enough these newer generations have this communicative interconnectivity of the Internet available to them, that previous generations didn’t have, but they don’t seem to use it, instead they just share mene pics/vids, etc.

Could you imagine the political earthquake though if a third party actually won? Would be glorious to see.

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Again, my father was a socialist. He wrote a his dissertation on Shaw and the socialist aspects of one of his plays. He was British and said he was never more proud of his homeland then when he helped it usher in the National Health Service with his vote. When I moved here to Terre Haute, Indiana, he made sure to get me to take him to the Eugene V. Debs museum because of how much he admired debs. How does that make him an 80s liberal? Do please explain.

I was speaking of the word used as an identifier/label, ‘progressive’, vs ‘liberal’, and not the content of what was being said, at all. No disrespect was meant towards the comment, just a tongue-and-cheeck attempt at discussing the labels. As I mentioned before, concerning the content of your comment …

(BTW, your comment was a good read.)

When it comes to my comment discussing labels, today’s ‘liberal’ is considered a ‘centrist’ by today’s younger generations (which pisses me off to no end, but that’s another discussion for another time), and what they think of as liberal they call progressive, hence my comment.

And for the record (not trying to measure dicks here, but only because you quoted your dads history) I’m a Gen-Xer who was born/raised in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles in the 70’s/80’s, a perverbial “Valley Dude”, and lived ‘in the capital of Liberalism’ the vast majority of my life. Liberalism of that day is not what Progressivism is today. I feel that I could be considered a ‘subject expert’ in a court case when it came to Liberals and Liberalism of that time.

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And as others have also pointed out, the website isn’t anything anti-boomer. It tracks each generation, and it’s just mildly interesting that boomers just hit 1/3.

How it’s presented to us though in this Lemmy article does suggest that though.

On a tangent, I really hate how people who create Lemmy posts really bias the article they’re posting about in the title of the Lemmy post, sometimes to the point where the title doesn’t match the article they’re posting, or speaks about the title in just one/two sentences of a long article.

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I’m what world is this kind of pedantry useful?

In what world is this kind of verbal policing useful?

No need to be hostile.

Concerning your question, at the very least, my world. But I suspect most people can recognize a conversation comment about how different generations see things and identify them, for its own sake. You know, Lemmy is about conversations about subjects.

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You will ALWAYS be voting for the lesser of two evils.

Unless you run for office yourself.

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That’s how statistics work. You take a sample and abstract it to the population. If you required every one to be checked, then no numbers of any sort would be made up because that’s too much work.

Yeah sure, I’m aware of how statistics work. I’m just not confident that they are interpreting the statistics correctly.

CosmicCleric, (edited )
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It must be weird judging a whole generation based only on what you know from learning about via social media.

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Yes. Didn’t notice those dates. Still makes no sense if you take the name literally though…

You’re wrong chronologically, but you’re right based on how those labels are used to judge people’s social values.

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Then you’ll be the one getting called the leader of two evils

It’s the violence inherited in the system. (And yes, that’s a Gen-X timeframe related quote (in a deep meta ironic sort of way)).

AKA, what goes around, comes around.

But still, it’s worth doing. Better to solve your own problems, versus waiting for somebody else to solve them for you.

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