Natanael

@Natanael@slrpnk.net

Cryptography nerd

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Natanael,

Sometimes leeches are used for this, even in modern hospitals

Natanael,

That can vary between devices and mine never shows color in that mode

Natanael, (edited )

Besides the fact that it wasn’t actually known if those tests would work, there’s also hypothetical tests for simulation theory (eg. testing for pixelated resolution of spacetime, plus endless “consistency tests”) so doesn’t that make it all the same thing anyway? You’re making much too strong assumptions.

Natanael,

Why does testing numerous different circumstances and consequences violate the idea is simulation? A sufficiently capable simulation engine could literally be used for social experiments

Natanael,

I’m not saying it happens, I’m just saying some of the arguments here aren’t logically justified

Natanael,

There’s an argument that because some of the physical limits we see around entropy density (due to singularities) are proportional to the area of a sphere around the volume, together with math indicating it’s possible to translate physics in a 3D volume to a 2D surface, the whole universe might be a projection from the 2D surface of a sphere

Natanael,

You’re conflating things. We have no reason to argue those are true with any certainty, but we still can’t exclude the possibility. It’s the difference of “justified belief” vs coherent theory. Physics have had a ton of theories postulated without evidence where decades later one option was proven true and many others proven false. Under your assumption you shouldn’t have made that theory before it could be tested.

Natanael,

Found via Wikipedia. From the 70’s:

We should perhaps finish our paper with an apology and a caution. We apologize to experimentalists for having no idea what is the mass of the Higgs boson, …, and for not being sure of its couplings to other particles, except that they are probably all very small. For these reasons, we do not want to encourage big experimental searches for the Higgs boson, but we do feel that people doing experiments vulnerable to the Higgs boson should know how it may turn up.

— John R. Ellis, Mary K. Gaillard, and Dimitri V. Nanopoulos,

One of the problems was that at the time there was almost no clue to the mass of the Higgs boson. Theoretical considerations left open a very wide range somewhere between 10 GeV/c2[13] and 1000 GeV/c2[14] with no real indication where to look.[1]

So you’re literally as wrong as you could be. It wasn’t until what once was a wild hypothesis had been explored more that they could start to make better predictions around where it might be, decades later, and after tests narrowing down where it wasn’t.

I didn’t “walk back” either. Exploring multiple possibilities is called hedging, not walking back (since that means you retracted something which I didn’t do), and scientists does it too. I didn’t say either one option is more likely, I told you there are many possibilities and then you insisted on calling several of them impossible not because any mechanics exclude it’s possibility but because you can’t see it. That’s plainly wrong. You can definitely argue it’s improbable, but you don’t get to call it impossible without proving it impossible.

Natanael, (edited )

You’re conflating “possible” with “probable”, and refusing to address possibilities you don’t have proof of.

When higgs bosons were predicted they were untestable. When gravity waves were predicted they were untestable. When black hole rings were predicted they were untestable.

Then we discovered how to build the sensors and instruments to test them.

You’re saying those scientists should’ve dropped their ideas because at that point it was still impossible to test or falsify.

What scientists do instead is to develop many different alternative theories, then design tests and experiments, and then once data is in then they decide what do believe about the theories based on what the could prove or not.

Edit: why are people like this so aggressively wrong in the dumbest ways… Not only did they pick only one of 3 examples of mine to attack and ignoring the rest, they also did so maximally incorrectly all while failing to understand the consequences of their own policy of rejecting anything you don’t know how to test.

The core of my argument is really just “sometimes scientists works on stuff nobody knows how to test, because maybe they’ll find out how in the future”, and this dude’s argument is essentially “if you don’t know how to test something it’s literally impossible for it to be true and therefore it shall be rejected, but also scientists always knows the path forward and therefore I don’t have to reevaluate my understanding of science”

Natanael, (edited )

Checkpointing interesting points in simulations and rerunning with modified parameters happens literally all the time

Especially weather / climate / geology and medicine

Natanael,

In this instance it doesn’t. But in this universe almost every industry using simulations run many different ones with different parameters. It doesn’t make sense to assume simulation theory with only a single simulation without interventions, because that assumes the simulator already knew that what the simulation would produce would fit what they wanted and that’s not a guarantee (just for information theory reasons alone!)

What is Something Scientific that you just don't believe in at all?

EDIT: Let’s cool it with the downvotes, dudes. We’re not out to cut funding to your black hole detection chamber or revoke the degrees of chiropractors just because a couple of us don’t believe in it, okay? Chill out, participate with the prompt and continue with having a nice day. I’m sure almost everybody has something...

Natanael,

But it doesn’t necessarily show if they have common sense. If you have many low complexity problems then maybe, but it can’t predict the best performers

Natanael,

If the MLS group messaging encryption protocol can get finalized any day soon then they might use that

Natanael,

Or IPFS. The issue in this context is that bittorrent would treat each version as a unique collection of files and you can’t combine seeding of redundant files. IPFS has much better means to handle updates.

Natanael,

Did you get that quote from somebody who had just been listening to you talk? And then misunderstood and thought they meant the other person?

Natanael,

The Nobel peace prize is unfortunately worthless

Natanael,

The worst kind of bullies will just learn what the cameras are going to capture and not

Natanael,

Even with standard components, you’re still dealing with a wide variety of different sized city blocks with different types of buildings and industries, different grid layouts, etc. You also have to plan for potential future changes in load. Even if you have a large part you can copy-paste you still need to check all requirements and design the interconnections

Natanael,

Without predictions and without tangible models you don’t have falsifiability. You unintentionally acknowledged my point without understanding it. The field isn’t a science, just philosophy trying to explain the results from actual sciences, but didn’t itself have any kind of proof of validity.

Your example is much more closely related to neurology and neuropsychology.

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Natanael,

Yup, unless you specifically set it to use one of the few outproxies then it’s by default just for connecting to other peers within the I2P network

Natanael,

Torrents are literally built around file hashes so yes

Natanael, (edited )

Your scenario would specifically require the cops to ask their techs for a detailed report and then deliberately lie about it’s conclusions to attack completely random people, and just FYI the last few rounds of this happened when public WiFi was new and the cops kept losing so badly in courts that this doesn’t really happen much anymore. You don’t even need a great lawyer, just an average one who can find the precedence.

There’s no “additional fingerprints” of relevance binding any node in a tunnel to the communications in the tunnel. It uses PFS and multiple layers of encryption (tunnels within tunnels). They need to run a debugger against their node to have any chance to really argue that a specific packet came from a specific node, which also would ironically simultaneously prove that node didn’t actually know and was just a blind relay (just like how mailmen aren’t liable for content of packages they deliver).

Your argument is literally being used to argue that nobody should have privacy because those who don’t break laws don’t need it, yet you yourself are arguing for why we still need privacy if we haven’t broken laws. The collateral damage when such tools aren’t available is so much greater than when privacy tools are available. One of the greatest successes of Signal is how its popularity makes each of its users part of a “haystack” (large anonymity set) and targeting individual users just for using it is infeasible, protecting endless numbers of minorities and other at-risk individuals.

In addition, it’s extremely rare that mass surveillance like spying on network traffic leads to prosecutions. It’s usually infiltration that works, so you running an I2P node will make zero difference.

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