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StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Crystals good, fungus bad
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The big temporal shift took place when TNG’s premiere ‘Encounter at Farpoint’ was written to place WW3 and first contact into the mid-late 21st century.

TOS was very specific in saying that the Eugenics War was a precursor to WW3.

Roddenberry wanted to ensure that the franchise’s optimistic future was always a future possibility for viewers. So he insisted that TNG reset the date of WW3.

At the time TNG appeared, there were die-hard gatekeeping TOS fans that argued that this time shift broke canon and meant TNG was in a different universe despite McCoy’s appearance in the premiere.

SNW just confirms the physics of temporal slippage in the Prime timeline as the consequence of all the various intertemporal incursions over the history of the franchise.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in DSC Season 5, LD Season 5, SNW Season 3.... GIVE IT TO ME NOW
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I’m convinced that many people don’t appreciate DS9 until their 30s.

Cool that the 90s shows each seem to appeal to different demographics even though they were all in theory designed for mass audiences ( unlike in the current streaming era).

The problem seems to be that a lot of younger fans that get into Voyager & TNG, just cringe at DS9 or find it boring. Once they’ve had that experience they’re hard to convince to give it a fresh shot when they’re older.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Don't know where else to say this ... but I'm enjoying the new shows on my own.
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As others have said this isn’t the infinitely expanding manifold time of DC or MCU (pre Loki season 2).

SNW season two confirmed what we could infer from the premier of TNG when the date of WW3 had shifted back decades. It also happens to line up better with the understandings of modern physics.

The Prime Timeline in Star Trek is a resilient enormous river. It can be shifted a bit in its course, slip forwards and back.

BUT major events remain largely unchanged

  • those changes that aren’t large enough to create a major fork shift to a very different future as in TOS City at the Edge of Forever

OR

  • it takes an event of the order of the Romulan Supernova to create a new branch universe (Kelvin U).
StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Cope
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The OP’s point is that there were old fans gatekeeping and downtalking ‘NuTrek’ pretty much since fan organizations took out full page newspaper ads in the US trying to stop TAS from being aired.

I was going to Star Trek cons in 1990. No matter how objectively great season 3 of TNG was, many TOS diehards were still campaigning against it.

Longstanding TOS fans could still be pretty toxic at that point to new TNG fans in person too. The guests at cons were still largely TOS cast. It was hard even to get a TNG t-shirt then.

Fast forward to 1993 and TNG cosplay was everywhere, the guests and panels were TNG and DS9 was the exciting new thing.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Too Many Mudds
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StillPaisleyCat, to risa in This may be the dumbest thing I've made yet. Sorry, Risa.
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Anyone else have Ukrainian farmers come to mind?

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/46711834-6076-43c1-b034-0cc36d0a4fbd.jpeg

Not that I’m suggesting mixing in a political war meme here, but that’s what popped up first for me.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in I love how SNW responded to this sexism by surrounding Pike with women
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Looking back at that, I think Roddenberry was lampshading the expected social discomfort expected in the audience when those words were put in Pike’s mouth. Regrettably, the rest audience reportedly still wasn’t willing to accept Number One.

It’s odd though given the prominent women characters in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea which was very popular a few years before.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Star Trek: Canada
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But you missed Alison Pill!

Our very own very nice Canadian Borg Queen.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Borgus, Boims, and Bean: One fat, one short, one lean
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Agree. But Boimler should still be much taller than Bean.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Borgus, Boims, and Bean: One fat, one short, one lean
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Boims should be lean, and Bean short.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Star Trek: Canada - Wood for a starship sounds good, eh?
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StillPaisleyCat, to risa in We doing Canada Trek now?
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StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Can't fool Vreenak or our neighbors to the north.
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Let’s make sure the non Canadians aren’t misled. (And provide authentic images.)

This is what a tin of maple syrup from Quebec looks like.

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/952d33b1-f82c-4131-90a0-1aeeab633a14.jpeg

Ontario also has a lot of sugar bush. Here’s what a standard jug looks like.

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/0654aedf-bcd5-4ef4-984a-fbee0d4fb5c9.jpeg

Where real syrup comes from…

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/5c6268ee-dc92-4be2-9ea5-a2b88aaabd0d.jpeg

https://startrek.website/pictrs/image/b968fbe5-314c-4c90-92b5-53610052c52f.jpeg

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Friends don't let friends try. . .
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With Spock as a child with his selát - yes that’s it. It got a lot of praise from child development experts and parents for dealing with the difficult topic of a pet’s death. It was a children’s show first.

StillPaisleyCat, to risa in Speaking of Canada in Star Trek...
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That stack of pancakes in the meme has about 1/3 of what our kids would put on them. They should be drowning. Not to mention all over the beans, sausages eggs or whatever other sides.

For those you are uninitiated, in the maple syrup producing regions of Quebec and Ontario, we buy it by the case. 12 half litre cans each. Or 1 litre bottles.

It’s actually much healthier than corn syrup because it has a lot of dissolved mineral goodness that the trees pull out of the ground - calcium, zinc and iron.

When I first moved from the west, my housemate’s romantic interest showed up with a case and opined that we were sickly westerners because we weren’t consuming syrup all winter. I’ve come round.

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