Yeah I’m sure he fled his country at 16 then chose to fight against the Nazis 4 years later because he was focused on “political power”. That’s fucking ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated
And again, IamRight links are bullshit. Show me published papers or edu links.
Unlike yourself I don’t need to take other people’s words and regurgitate them. Nor do I need cheap parlour tricks like inserting what I wish to argue against as the premise of my argument.
That was kind of the point. Sorry it was too nuanced for you.
Let me simply.
You are adding no value to this discussion because your comments are irrelevant and superficial.
I never claimed that discourse doesn’t require rebuttal, in fact invite it. Honest debate is important.
Now I’m not saying this directly to you, but most of the replies I’m getting are not that. And most of the posts and threads about this subject are not that. It’s an echo chamber.
I just don’t want more irrelevant “lol you stupid” responses because they are pointless.
Now I’m probably going to piss you off here. But I don’t put a lot of stock in random .com and .net type links.
If they are .edu or at least well reviewed wiki article then I’ll consider them. Because I can also find links that support any argument and claim any “truth”.
Well he was instrumental in ending the Vietnam War. He and his family fled the Nazis in 1938, then he joined the us army to fight them in 1943.
His views on defeating communism meant he also advocated for some fucked up shit. And most of his work in policy is why I’m not a fan of him.
But it’s not a binary thing. He is not the devil. Not even close to some of the people in power today.
My point has and continues to be that there is no discourse going on right now. There is just a dogpile.
I didn’t want to argue about the virtues of Kissenger, or lack. I wanted to point out the large amount of group think people are going into on THE SUBJECT.
You literally just started the Nobel Peace Prize is irrelevant, without qualification.
And now you want to claim I’m not “answering anything”.
I have made my best effort to answer replies. But why should I do more than what you are doing?
So please, as a Swede, somehow giving you special knowledge of the subject, explain why the Nobel Peace prize is irrelevant? I mean it started in Norway, so not even in your country. 🙄
I mean was it irrelevant when the Red Cross won it twice? What about when it was won by Bertha von Suttner? What about Kofi Annan? Or Narges Mohammadi?
Or is it maybe that it is only irrelevant when it doesn’t support your position?
What a powerful counterpoint. I mean clearly because you do not agree I’m a bootlicker.
After all your echo chamber developed point of view is clearly correct.
I mean how could it not be? You didn’t come up with it yourself. You just looked at what everyone was saying and made a juvenile response to try and feel connected to the group.
Should we talk more about your need to feel like you have relevance in the group or are we done?
And you’re the cliche regurgitator of other’s opinions without adding content to discussion.
In case that was unclear. You’re the type of person who interrupts a discussion to go “oh yeah what that other person said”, because you think it gains favour, cannot add value to a discussion and feel the need to be heard for you own self indulgence.
Are we done with irrelevant posts yet or should we go on?