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commie, to news in Commentary: We face a world potentially running out of antibiotics

85% of global soy is pressed for oil. the vast majority of the soy that’s fed to animals is the industrial waste from that process.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

i was asking because i can explain the methodology, and it is dubious.

if you total all the inputs that go into a product (the water, the carbon emissions, the land use, etc), then you can see what it would cost to produce it if you made no other products. but that’s not actually the environment in which meat dairy and eggs are produced.

the most illustrative example is cotton. cotton is not a food. it is grown for textiles. it wrecks the soil and it is THIRSTY. after you harvest the cotton and separate the fiber from the stalk and seed, you have seed left over. way more seed than you need to replant. cottonseed can be and is pressed for oil, but it takes much less processing to mix it into cattle fodder. why should the water used to grow cotton count against the water inputs for beef and milk? it’s actually a conservation of resources. these industries are all interconnected, and trying to just put a singular value on every product in the absence of the context of its production is not actually useful in determining what would be ecologically responsible.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

instead of platitudes, maybe you could provide some facts about cattle diets. maybe a link from the USDA or FAO.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

Judging by the other comments and profile, it’s clear that you’re not trying to have a discussion in good faith and may be a troll

this is poisoning the well and name-calling. what i said is true, whether you want to engage with it or not.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

that graphic shows that the feed that is given to animals is almost entirely the industrial waste from oil production. it’s called “soy meal” or “soy cake”

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

https://ourworldindata.org/images/published/Global-soy-production-to-end-use.png

looks to me like cattle get very little of the global soy crop, and most of what is fed to livestock is, as i said, the parts of the plant left over after we’ve taken what we want for ourselves.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

most cows mostly eat grass for most of their lives. whole corn is fed as a treat to entice them to eat the rest of the silage it’s sprinkled on (in my experience).

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

meat production uses far more land than plant-based alternatives

making food is a good use of land.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

whole corn and soybean are some of the primary cattle feed. The majority of all soybean grown in North America is used as cattle feed and corn is a large market segment.

can you cite any sources for that?

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

by what metric?

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

a lot of what we give to animals as feed is parts of plants we can’t or won’t eat,like silage. if we grow and use the part of the plant we want,and we can reclaim some more of the resources through animals,that’s good.

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

do you own bolt cutters?

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

can you explain the methodology?

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

buying beans is not an effective way to reduce meat production

commie, to asklemmy in What are some easy ways that you can improve energy efficiency and be more eco-friendly in your rental apartment?

if that’s true (i’m dubious) then you should be finding an effective way to curb production.

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