@otter@lemmy.ca

otter

@otter@lemmy.ca

I waddled onto the beach and stole found a computer to use.

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otter,

You have 26 more years to invest in some cleanup kits

otter,

Source: www.monkeyuser.com/2018/final-patch/

otter, (edited )

My understanding is that it IS encrypted, and its supposed to use the Signal protocol (Signal developed it and released it for others to use)

The problems are with

  • metadata (like the other comment explained)
  • closed source, so we take their word on it for how it works. It’s possible they’re being misleading or doing something shady

See this image from a few years ago: https://i.redd.it/0imry50rxy961.png

Note that signal does require this, which isn’t in the chart:

  • phone number (for now)
  • last active date
  • sign up date (I think)
otter,

This is the privacy community, and they were discussing the privacy aspect.

The concern isn’t about getting your chats leaked, there’s no incentive to just give away data that is collected. The concern is usually about a malicious group (company, government, criminals) abusing the data that they can get their hands on.

otter,

Wider context matters

Two companies can advertise lockers with the same high quality lock, but one might still be better to use

  • if one company can’t prove they are actually using the high quality lock
  • if one company acts as a middleman, doing the locking/unlocking for you
  • if one company watches everything you do before and after using the locker, allowing them to infer what you are using it for

Even if we specifically talk about security, one is better than the other.

otter, (edited )

Oh also @Thisfox

Instead of Telegram, consider one of these, it’s easier to switch to the good one now than to try and switch again later.

www.privacyguides.org/en/real-time-communication

Signal works great for my family

otter,

Long winded talk for shit?

what

otter, (edited )

I think it’s from here :)

forbes.com/…/whatsapp-beaten-by-apples-new-imessa…

Also it does leave out some info, I edited my comment up top

otter, (edited )

That’s fair enough, it’s really location based. Around where I am, telegram isn’t that popular. I’ve met a few people using Signal and I have friends/collegues pop up in the “____ has Signal” section of the app.

We don’t really have a dominant chat app around here, there’s a good mix of messenger/instagram/iMessage, with some groups sticking to Whatsapp/WeChat/Viber.

I am trying to find a simple evidence-based way to encourage my family to change their minds, but it appears it will only make me look paranoid

I think part of it is because it’s hard to convince people without first explaining how things work. Not much use in worrying about it if you can’t, just look out for yourself. What you COULD do is to use the private option when you need to talk about something sensitive. If the app is installed on their phone then they’re more likely to use it, and even if not then you’re looking out for yourself

otter,

Community blocking happens on Lemmy so I think it should be possible regardless

For anyone else reading about this :)

otter,

Yep this post is getting a downvote

He wants this message out there, why help

otter, (edited )

Ah yea I meant it for Lemmy. I was originally thinking of something like this

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/3cdc3226-f1e7-4d3c-a93e-10670bc4ca97.png

Some people use also Reddit when they don’t have a Lemmy community for a topic. Once a community pops up, this could be how they are reminded of it

otter,

Also you CAN get your workplace to shift over to something else.

Not every workplace will change procedures, but some will. Especially if it’s software that handles local data or if there are high costs or privacy risks, they can be convinced.

otter, (edited )

Well companies continue to get new software and learn new skills. They might not switch as soon as you suggest it, but it could get revisited later on when renewing a contract.

This also depends a lot on the size of the team and the work that’s being done. If required features are missing or there are compatibility issues, then that’s one thing. If people prefer the other product, or enough workers share similar views on the topic, then it’s easier to switch.

Again it doesn’t happen all the time, but it’s worth bringing up. If anything, it shows you’re thinking about how to improve your work and the business (financially, ethically). I’ve seen times when changes were made, and I’ve seen times when it wasn’t.

The support thing is a fair point, where companies would rather outsource risk than self host the thing. In that case it’s a matter of picking the most trustworthy company to outsource to. Best case scenario, the other company is doing things just as well as yours would have with the added benefit that they’re focussed on doing one thing well.

Does this exist?? Messaging platform with a panic button from any member.

Basically I am looking for a messaging platform like signal or? but with anonymous signup, perfect forward secrecy, capable of video chat, sending photos the usual uses in today’s life. But with a panic button. So that any party member could use said button to wipe all other members devices of any data instantly inside the...

otter,

Note with Snapchat that, it just gets hidden

You can find comments from people where old messages and images start popping back up because of bugs in the app. Snapchat is near the bottom of the barrel when it comes to privacy and security, despite the premise

otter,

The subreddit for your field may be the best for now

If it’s CS/tech, Lemmy career communities might work, the other fields are not as full yet

otter,

Does the order get shuffled each time?

otter,

Cool!

Consider crossposting to !publichealth :)

otter,

Yea I’m pretty sure this is what OP heard about, it’s a common tidbit that gets shared

Ownership wasn’t secret then, and it’s not secret now. What happened then was that they bought transit things and shut them down. That COULD happen now too, but it would happen pretty publicly

They do lobby governments though

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