Good thing that basically every other action you could do falls between “do nothing”, and “commit ethnic cleansing”, so they’ve got a lot to choose from!
Too bad they decided to go with the ethnic cleansing instead.
You mean where they found weapons and a tunnel with an armored door with a firing port?
Yes, that one. The one where all that was behind that door was a room with 2 cots and a table, where Israel had claimed (complete with a fancy 3D animation) that there was an entire multi-level command center with tens of rooms, housing potentially hundreds of Hamas fighters. That one, that didn’t exist.
Or the al-Shifa hospital where a surveillance camera recording shows terrorists bringing in a hostage?
This is always such a weird argument. Yeah, of course Hamas brought the hostage there for treatment. They were trying to keep them alive. They’re also the government in Gaza, so it would be no different than Israeli military bringing one of their hostages to an Israeli hospital. Are you under the impression that hospitals that treat war wounded are military targets?
Let me ask you this: How should Israel have reacted to the terror attack on October 7? What would, in your eyes, an appropriate, justified response look like? Please be honest.
Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.
Then, I’d say they should have conducted a ground invasion backed with actually targeted strikes on Hamas targets using precision weapons that the US is so enamored with.
and also permitted foreign aid through the border crossing with Egypt
Permitted a pittance, after blocking all of it initially.
I’m not Israeli.
That just makes your caping for their genocide and ethnic cleansing even more ridiculous.
You are either willfully ignorant about how wrong what you’re saying is, or you are truly a lost cause.
I don’t think you are aware of just how small this war is in terms of death toll compared to other wars that are currently going on.
And I don’t think you realize just how many insane ratios this war is producing. For being so small, it is resulting in more aid worker, doctor, and journalist deaths than other, much larger wars. It has resulted in level of destruction (e.g. 60% of homes damaged) that hasn’t existed since WW2. The sheer percentages of children being killed versus adults (nevermind combatants), is just staggering.
If your only defense is to say, “but who cares about ratios and percentages?”, then you’re just arguing that it’s okay to genocide small groups.
But I’m suuuuuure you’re just weeping non-stop for them, right?
Neither is not supplying your enemy with resources
They are denying civilians water and food, and Israel is not the ones supplying those resources anyways, other countries are, and Israel is blocking them.
nor is bombing civilian infrastructure that is being used for military purposes
Which the water infra and power plants were not, but they were bombed anyways (and to be clear, Israel has never claimed that they were used to launch attacks, before you try to pull that out of your bum).
At no point did Israel make the unrealistic promise that they would be safe from bombs.
Ah yes, unrealistic to not bomb civilians. Of course. So smart. Why even have stipulations about war crimes, since apparently no one in a warzone can expect not to be killed indiscriminately anyways? Checkmate, human rights!
Given that Hamas operates from there
Hamas doesn’t “operate” from the 60% of residential buildings that have been damaged in Gaza, any more than the IDF could be said to “operate” from Israeli neighborhoods. Israel has shown no evidence (and in fact has been shown to have been dead wrong with their claims, such as at al-Shifa) that they are using the refugee camps and homes and businesses that Israel bombed to launch rockets (if they were all actually rocket launch sites, where were all the people actually living?). Simply having your soldiers live somewhere doesn’t make it a valid target, otherwise the rocket attacks into Israel are all justified too.
There’s a reason that Israel is rapidly losing support on the world stage, and why it’s going to find itself a pariah state before too long.
You would do the same if you were in their place.
When you wake up and find that most of the world is rejecting your country’s claims of conducting a war legitimately, perhaps you should question why, rather than rushing to spew out half-baked justifications and appeals to empathize with an abused group becoming the abusers.
No, war crime trials are for their other abuses, like killing a record number of journalists, aid workers, doctors, and of course women and children. War crime trials are for cutting off food and water to civilians, and bombing civilian infrastructure. War crime trials are for funneling civilians into “safe zones”, and then bombing them.
But you know that. You just don’t care, as long as the monsters you support win instead of the monsters you don’t support.
Why do I suspect that even if we said, “after”, you would still turn around and object to these Israeli assholes being held accountable if tribunals came to pass?
There’s a significant age gap between most of the vocal critics of Israel in congress right now, and its ardent supporters. In even just 15 years a lot of those ardent supporters will be dead. Younger Democrat congresspersons already have a significantly different set of politics than the old guard, and it’s only going to become more apparent as they become the majority, and don’t have to fear censure by the fogeys.
Everyone knows this. We have seen the response of “World Leaders”, and it’s to appoint an oil executive to be President of COP28 so he can falsely and perniciously claim that ‘no one’ is actually saying to get rid fossil fuels.
Governments have already decided that they are not going to miss out on any sweet sweet potential economic activity (read “money generation for politicians”) until it gets so bad that they have to to survive. They’re going to play chicken with each other and employ police to put down protests until we finally do something about it/them ourselves.
So in other words they understood that they were being called on to condemn antisemitism in order to help reinforce the narrative that these college rallies were antisemitic protests, when in fact they were pro-Palestinian ones.
Good on them for choosing to side with their students rather than give the anti-Palestinian camp their manufactured “professors condemn antisemitic student rallies” soundbites.
Refuse to engage with their genocide-backing rhetoric that tries to tie being pro-Palestinian to being antisemitic.
A doctor carried the small limp body of a dead boy in a tracksuit and placed him in a corner, arms splayed across the blood-smeared tile. On the floor nearby, surrounded by discarded bandages and rubber gloves, lay a wounded boy and girl, their limbs tangled with the stands holding IV drips in their arms.
Two young girls were being treated, still covered in dust from the collapse of the house that had buried their family.
“My parents are under the rubble,” sobbed one. “I want my mum, I want my mum, I want my family.”
If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention.
Israel killed Palestinians in Gaza who were heading North during the “cease-fire”.
Israel killed Palestinians in the West Bank who they said were Hamas during the “cease-fire”.
Israel never even wanted the cease-fire except that it would lay bare Bibi’s complete lack of giving a shit about the hostages on Hamas’s side if he refused, and he couldn’t afford that either internationally or internally.
Israel never stopped murdering Palestinians in the West Bank, and even shot a bunch of Palestinian civilians who tried to go North during the “cease-fire”.
The cease-fire was Hamas trying to give people as much time to evacuate as they could, because Israel was clear from the beginning that they intended to go back to murdering Palestinians afterwards. And of course Israel is now expanding “operations” in the South, since that’s where the majority of Palestinians are now.
I got bad news for you: no one cares what an economist says about how they should feel, they only care about how they DO feel, and most Americans feel worse off.
That’s not Biden’s fault, obviously, it’s Capitalism’s, but try explaining that to your average American.