Do you dislike/hate Systemd, Poettering, or both? And does one stem from the other?
What exactly makes Poettering crooked? Working for M$? So you’re telling me if Torvalds accepted the job offer from Jobs to work at Apple, he would be crooked too?
Yeah, I don’t know about Java. I often switch between X and Wayland myself, but I’m mostly on X because I use a tiling window manager (Qtile) which has a Wayland version but is still ironing out some issues before I can switch full time.
Fedora is switching because Fedora is always trying to be first at everything. And because things are very close tp perfect, it means that when Fedora makes the switch, a bunch of users will use Wayland more, helping iron out the last few bugs and issues.
Because it is the replacement for Xorg and X11 as a whole. This is like expecting all Unix applications to work on Linux. No, some things need to be ported or rewritten. I don’t want to force adoption of Wayland. Heck, I’m on Xorg because Qtile’s Wayland session is missing a thing or two I need (they’re in development but not there yet). I’m just tired of people pretending this article is accurate and up to date so I wanted to set some things clear. Granted, I didn’t do it that well, but I tried.
Also, whoever calls Wayland X12 is lying to themselves and everyone else. The only way in which such naming would make sense is if you consider the fact that the X11 maintainers (pretty much all of them RedHat employees) were sick and tired of maintaining it, so they started Wayland to replace X11 (NOT as a drop in replacement, mind you). So the only way such naming wpuld make sense is if you consoder the fact that Wayland developers and maintainers were the same people that were maintaining Xorg until they just gave up.
Actually, yes. Firefox is good but I hate the UI. Okay, Brave seems nice. Love the UI, sync feels slow, and why can I not move the top bar to the bottom on mobile??? Phones are BIG. Don’t make it harder for me to use your product. Okay, there is Vivaldi, king of customisability. Nice, but feels slow. Back to Firefox. Still hate UI. And now wanting a better new tab page. Proceed to discover Tabliss for a good new tab page, and Firefox-UI-Fix on github to give me a better UI on Firefox desktop. Wow, problems solved. I’m sticking to Firefox forever (unless I decide to switch to Librewolf where I can still implement all the same fixes as on Firefox).
Sometimes I find Dodi working and fitgirl not working, sometimes neither works, sometimes both work. I usually get issues related to unarc.dll and similar. I haven’t done repacks (or much gaming for that matter) for weeks now, so I don’t know.
This OUTDATED article gets posted all the time. The full story is the guy is a massive FreeBSD fan so he is trying to convince more people to keep on using Xorg because he wants to make sure it isn’t abandoned. Reason for that being that Wayland is built with Linux in mind and would not work under FreeBSD without a lot of effort bwing put in as it uses some Linux-specific components or libraries.
Edit: Decided to write a response because I’m tired of this ancient and incorrect article being reposted. Please read it, correct any mistakes in the comments, etc. Thank you.
Here’s a task for you: Create a new file called “Unlimited_POWER” in /
Do that both on Android and Ubuntu using the built in or preinstalled terminal, and no external devices. No new software installation. Just this task on a fresh install.
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m saying that if you hate the project, don’t hate on the developer. Poettering has made a project that is universally considered an improvement to the Linux desktop space. You don’t like it? There are other projects out there. The Linux space is one of those spaces where there are always alternatives. You don’t like MS Office Online? Use LibreOffice? You don’t like that either? There is only office and others? You don’t like the direction Firefox is heading in? Use Brave. You don’t want to use Chromium because you want to prevent the domination of their browser engine? Use Librewolf. All the above applies to you, and you have simple browsing needs? Use Epiphany. You don’t like GNOME but love vim and keyboard-driven setups? Use qutebrowser or vimb (yes, there is a browser named vimb, vim with a b at the end). The point is, there is choice. You don’t like Arch because it uses systemd? Use Artix. You like runit which you used with Artix but you want more stable software? Use Void. You liked openrc instead? Use Devuan or Alpine. You don’t mind compiling from source? Use Gentoo. You want something FSF-approved? Use Guix. You like the ideas behind Guix but got tired of the software freedom stuff? Use NixOS (oh wait, that one uses systemd).
Point is, there is choice in the Linux world. It’s one of rhe things we’re famous on. You don’t like a project? Use something else. You want to share your experience and reasoning as to why you don’t like a project? Go ahead, I’d love to read about it. But looking down on and insulting developers for projects they have made, for their contributions and improvements they have brought to the space, whether you agree with them or not, is not right. People should be applauded for improving Linux. Most of them do it in their free time and do not get paid for it (not sure if Poettering started systemd as a part of his job at RedHat or in his free time, though). What I’m saying is, share your opinion on the project, and move on. If someone asks you to elaborate, you’re welcome to do so. Just don’t get the dev involved. I don’t hear of people abandoning Hyprland because of some controversial things Vaxry has said (I can no longer recall what he said exactly but I remember hearing something hadistribution).
Anyways, I’m just wasting one of, if not THE most precious resource of our lives: my time, so I’ll be wrapping up here. If you have any responses, I might read them if I get around to it, and if I find it meaningful, I might post a response. For now, I wish you all the best in your endeavours, whatever they may be, and I hope that some of the examples I gave above can be useful in guiding you towards finding a systemd-free distribution, if you choose to do so. Cheers.