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Got_Bent, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Fortunately for me, I’m too old to know how to pirate even if I wanted to do so.

However, I’m sure the fine people at Broderbund would like to have a long conversation with me from way, way back in the day.

Choplifter and Karateka took up hours and hours and hours of my elementary/middle school years.

JackbyDev,

Well, if you download software like qBittorrent be sure to not accidentally download and torrents to copyrighted content.

BlackPenguins,

Or use a VPN while you do it.

SoleInvictus,
@SoleInvictus@lemmy.world avatar

If you were playing Choplifter in elementary school, you’re really not THAT old. Or you are and that makes me old too, but I’m -hypothetically- completely capable of figuring out piracy. Don’t short yourself, there’s always room on the high seas.

Got_Bent,

I think I was in fifth grade when Choplifter came out. I got that sweet sweet apple ii joystick so I could play it better than with the keyboard

CosmicCleric,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

If you were playing Choplifter in elementary school, you’re really not THAT old.

If you had to load Choplifter into your Apple II to play it with a cassette tape recorder, then yes, you are old, you are a first gen computer game player.

Reddfugee42,

Of course, knowing how to do something has nothing to do with age; there are people over the new who could teach you just fine 😅

ASeriesOfPoorChoices,

were you held back 10-20 years or so? The oldest 5th grader ever?

I’m trying to figure out how a 70+ year old was playing Karateka in school.

wowwoweowza, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

Is it possible a film studio, or legal agency, could set up a Lemmy Instance and then capture all our IPs?

JackbyDev,

Only if you directly use their instance.

Somethingcheezie,

Absolutely. One of the biggest child porn groups is an FBI front for this purpose. I’d google the subject for a link but umm…no

wowwoweowza,

So basically the only thing protecting our anonymity is the relative unpopularity of Lemmy?

ILikeBoobies,

The internet is at it’s worst when it’s popular

The Federation of lemmy/mastodon instances is the worst part about it

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

To expand on this. If you are talking about anything online it is not private. That doesn’t matter if it’s in a WhatsApp chat, a telegram chat, a Lemmy post, a Facebook feed, etc. as soon as it hits a computer if someone wants to see it they will. There’s just hurdles to get it.

If you want anonymity stop using computers.

MxM111,

Privacy and anonymity are not the same thing.

whoisearth,
@whoisearth@lemmy.ca avatar

You’re not anonymous online either FYI.

MxM111,

Depends what and how you do it. VPN gives some level of anonymity. TOR even more so. These give you probably greater anonymity than anything else you have in offline live.

Somethingcheezie,

Ain’t this the truth.

Here’s story about a serial killer being caught by a floppy drive’s meta data.

grunge.com/…/heres-how-the-btk-killer-was-finally…

Facebones,

Few things more fun than telling people who harp about vaccines being tracking chips that if they’re worried about tracking they should ditch their smartphone, and watching them rage.

JonEFive, (edited )

You mean the always-on GPS-enabled internet-connected microphone and camera which is also likely Bluetooth and NFC beaconing and contains all of my most personal data including my name, contacts, unencrypted chats facilitated by major cell phone carriers, photos, emails, and other personal files which are also likely synced with a cloud service operated by major multi-national corporations, and also stores biometric data such as facial recognition, fingerprints, time spent sleeping, and even heart rate and number of steps taken assuming you have “fitness” features enabled?

With those last couple items, these massive companies that regularly share data with law enforcement are literally tracking your every step and nearly every beat of your heart.

Well don’t worry about that, I’ve got Express VPN.

tigeruppercut,

Detectives were able to run relatively simple tests to determine that the file had last been saved by a user named “Dennis,” and it had been printed using one of the printers at the nearby Christ Lutheran Church.

Maybe the article is badly worded, but it seems like they got metadata from the file, not the floppy disk itself.

Somethingcheezie,

It was either the FAT file or the file itself. The case is famous.

onlinepersona,

Tell me you know nothing about computers without telling me you know nothing about computers.

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

vsh,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

Says the guy licensing his own comments on social media.

Tell me you know nothing about copyright without telling me you know nothing about copyright.

onlinepersona,

😂 at least I’m not pretending I know anything about copyright

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

unless you visit the instance yourself or activitypub starts including user ips

ademir,
@ademir@lemmy.eco.br avatar

AP protocol doesn’t propagate your IP

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I think not as the only instance that has your ip is the one you are registered on.

wowwoweowza,

One would hope…

etrotta,
@etrotta@lemmy.eco.br avatar

I’m not sure that this is how it works in practice, but ideally: Unless you are registered in their stance / are browsing directly in their website, your client shouldn’t be making any direct requisitions to their instance, so there is nothing they can infer your IP from. (Everything you interact with is comes directly your instance - the only thing that interacts with other instances is the server) That said, it’s possible for some links to direct to the original stance, in which case your client will have to make requests directly to the original instance hosting the content… looking around in this page a bit, it looks like the Community images (banner, icon etc.) are linking directly to the original instance, so I guess that’s a little bit of a problem - but just that shouldn’t be enough information for them to connect the dots between the IP address fetching the image and the account you’re using to browse

spader312,

Don’t images also link back to the original instance?

Art3sian,
@Art3sian@lemmy.world avatar

Yup. About 7 years ago I used to darkweb pretty hard in the drug scene (I haven’t in years so have at it, Mr. FBI).

Anyway I used Reddit subs a lot for info on new markets and onions, reliable sellers, and news on exit scams etc, but I only lurked - never commented. Anyone with a brain in their head knew they were honeypots.

wowwoweowza,

Hope I didn’t fall for Any honeypots. I sometimes wonder about posts in Piracy communities.

Mr_Blott, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

This sounds like something I’m waaaay too European to have to worry about lol

cupcakezealot, (edited ) to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

just remember to be honest with the police and give your real name, Robert’); DROP TABLE Prisoners;–

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Naughty Bobby!

redditReallySucks,
@redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Please tell me this never worked for the sake of humanity

BlackPenguins, (edited )

Oh you overestimate the government. Many systems still running on XP. Our government contracts for our company software are still on versions from 13 years ago.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

little bobby tables destroyed his schools records. :(

Flax_vert, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

192.168.1.420

FlyingSquid,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

8.00.8.5

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

yes sir, my ip is 8.8.8.8

RacoonVegetable,

Mine is 9.9.9.9

mindbleach,

IngloriousBasterds.gif

fxt_ryknow,

Wait… Mine is 9.9.9.9, too!

HerbalGamer, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works avatar

lol get fucked wanker bros

CAVOK, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

PSA that i2p exists and supports anonymous Torrents.

Have a look at !i2p

1984, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

They fucked users and now they are salty that they left for piracy. Lol.

lurch, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

Gardeners must share beautiful flowers, goats say

Aurenkin, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

Do we really have to go through this shit again? As long as you refuse to make watching movies convenient and reasonably priced, people will pirate. You were already so close, but then you got greedy and fucked it all up again so here we are.

Anticorp, (edited )

They really had achieved the dream. They made a streaming account affordable and more convenient than pirating, so they had tons of customers, with piracy a long lost pastime for people like me. Then they got greedy like you said, and annoying, and many of us dusted off our sailing gear.

Aurenkin,

While streaming services have been undergoing enshittification, the tools for piracy have been getting more convenient too.

hitmyspot,

The arrs are amazing. I had been out for a while. It’s more fun than streaming. Random stuff shows up that I wasn’t expecting when it downloads a new show or moviess that I like.

Anticorp,

What are the arrs?

hitmyspot,

Radarr, sonarr, prowlarr and others. Apps that monitor your library, your preferred shows and movies and download them automatically for better quality or just new releases. Particularly good for tv shows.

Anticorp,

For real! Stremio+Real-Debrid is amazing. The fact that you can stream torrent now is so cool.

uriel238, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I thought this was already decided by a court in autumn 2023. Is this an appeal?

squirrel,
@squirrel@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

As far as I understand it, the studios are trying a different angle: They are not suing Reddit this time, but an ISP and want Reddit to provide the data of costumers of that ISP.

Fenrisulfir,

Man I know some cosplayers can be annoying but I think that’s overkill

test113,

Stupid question: What’s the point behind this? Is this actually financially viable for a company in the long run? Was this an attempt to get Reddit to crack down on those subs?

Isn’t this always a fight against windmills? i.e., you can’t fight a symptom without addressing the market as a whole?

uriel238, (edited )
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I think this was related to their plan before, in the case that got decided (specifically that Reddit didn’t have to reveal the IP addies of its clients), but that’s always been a problem especially if an ip address leads to a router or is dynamic at the ISP, then there’s no certainty it can be identified with a single person.

This is how the whole twelve-strikes program was formed where big name ISPs would (hypothetically) give demerits and eventually throttle or disconnect ISP addies that were identified as engaging in infringing activity. The problem is, clients stopped wanting to pay their bills when quality deteriorated, so it’s not consistently enforced. In fact, companies that are not Comcast or Xfinity are motivated not to do anything beyond threats.

ETA: Similarly, it’s actually to the benefit of social media websites to preserve the privacy of their clients, since incidents in which they cooperate with law enforcement reduces engagement. Google used to have a robust legal resistance to giving away personal data. It was deteriorated through enshittification, but now Google has lost enough reputation that it’s looking for ways to preserve privacy, like the new effort to constrain personal map data to devices, so Google is unable to respond to location dragnet warrants. They’re still in trouble for search-term warrants.

(Note the map thing is not yet rolled out, so don’t use Google maps when burying your bodies.)

ExperimentalGuy, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

I’m so glad I don’t use that shit platform anymore.

Rediphile, to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

They already know who I am lol. I don’t hide it at all, straight raw dogging it without VPN or anything. Thankfully they can’t do anything because they would lose money pursuing me.

lazylion_ca,

The joy of being Canadian.

MrFappy, (edited ) to reddit in Reddit must share IP addresses of piracy-discussing users, film studios say

These companies are just mad that their movies sucked and didn’t make any money, so they’re saying they’re losing profit from piracy… what profit?!?! No one wants to watch Hellboy 2019 for free, much less put in the time and effort to pirate that garbage. And if they are, then I feel like having to watch any fragment of that movie is punishment enough.

bradboimler,
@bradboimler@startrek.website avatar

I agree watched that movie one time i would defiantly never buy that movie.

beckerist,

A matter of DEFIANCE!

thanks_shakey_snake,
VaultBoyNewVegas,

Honestly, I don’t see a problem with pirating a movie that came out 5+ years ago. After a movie has left cinemas and can only be seen via DVD/blueray are the studios really making much money back from those? They’re definitely not making any money on DVDs/bluerays bought from secondhand stores.

space,

And why the hell would I buy a region locked Blu-ray, and be forced to watch through those FBI piracy screens?

FeelThePower, to piracy in Film studios demand IP addresses of people who discussed piracy on Reddit

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