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JoeKrogan, (edited ) to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@JoeKrogan@lemmy.world avatar

They make hardware with defects looking at you RROD and YLOD , they expect you to rebuy everything again every time there is a new console ( Nintendo). They remove your content that you have paid for from your library (Amazon, Sony, music from games), they alter the deal after purchase by instering DRM and shitty launchers and turn off servers (Ubisoft and EA). They lock you out of accessing stuff on devices you own with DRM (eg Netflix 4k on linux ).

Then we have regional releases, changes to privacy policies which we didn’t agree to when we signed up.

Add to the fact we’re being fucked over at every turn. The price of everything is increasing, housing is a mess, they’re fucking up the environment while record profits have been pouring in year on year.

They can go suck a lemon 🍋

I will only support FOSS and those who help further that goal such as valve. Otherwise it the high seas everyday.

🏴‍☠️✊

hightrix, (edited ) to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

Say it louder with me for the people in the back.

Piracy is not stealing.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i dunno i heard that you wouldn’t steal a car

hightrix,

Correct. I wouldn’t steal a car. But I would absolutely make a perfect copy of a car for free.

Chriswild,

I wouldn’t ever buy the content so it’s not a lost sale either. All I’ve done is copy a file. gasp

Anticorp,

You’re not allowed to buy the content anyways. You’re only allowed to pay for the illusion of ownership, until they decide they don’t want to host it anymore, and then you lose it. They’re such bullshit artists that they redefine common words like “buy” and “own” in their ToS.

Appoxo, (edited )
@Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I believe their justification would be that you aquiring the media is a definite loss of sale vs you not subbing/buying the media is a potential sale in the future.

Edit: Not my opinion. Just imagining how they would justify it before court should it come to it.

Chriswild,

By that same rational: My not getting a raise is a lost sale because if I had more money I would buy more. So is corporate profit a lost sale?

ikidd,
@ikidd@lemmy.world avatar

“If buying is not owning, then piracy is not stealing.”

Rentlar,

I gotta say I love this meme. I think about it every time a tech company does something really scummy to take away features and products that people have purchased (and not rented/leased).

Unabart, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

I block ads, so neener-neener. 🤡

44razorsedge, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

Just stopped in to say fuck you to the greedy motherfuckers who created a market for sharing massively overpriced content and now cry all over their piles of money cause they are BIGGER piles of money.

Which is to say: “Fuck you”.

madeinthebackseat,

What about the small, local services that are just trying to pay the broadcast production bills and make a little cash to become viable businesses?

Fuck those people too?

Because these piracy services also affect them. These services restream the content taking away revenue from the small streaming services. In many cases we’re talking about volumes less than 100. So these restream services pop up, illegally use trademarks and copyrighted materials to advertise, and can reduce volumes enough that they are no longer viable.

Sometimes these things affect regular people trying to make life work too. Not just billionaire assholes who legitimately deserve the criticism.

haui_lemmy,

Since the fruit hangs so low: Yes, small creators get affected by it as well.

But what do we say to cops that dont snitch on their “bad apple” colleagues? Correct, they are part of the problem.

So from that I deduce that small creators (like myself) need to stand up against these practices or be considered part of the problem.

Have a good one.

tocopherol, (edited )
@tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Would you really put the blame on piracy for that when there are conglomerates manipulating the entire market? I’m not doubting they exist, but can you name a small business streaming service that would be affected by pirate services? I have never heard of such a company. I’ve seen small streaming services utilizied by libraries but they are on government contracts and tax funded as far as I know.

madeinthebackseat, (edited )

Local motorsports in the US.

It’s a whack-a-mole of services which restream content, but the piracy services are also subscription based.

samus12345, (edited ) to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Subscriber fees? Who’s paying for pirated content?

EDIT:

https://i.imgflip.com/8dgaw4.jpg

https://i.imgflip.com/8dgb51.jpg

Drinvictus,

Realdebrid bro

Anticorp,

Lots of people are. Real Debrid is the shit! It’s about $2.80 per month for the ability to stream pretty much everything. But ads? Nah, man. There are ads on the torrent sites, but none on streaming. Pirates are pretty ad-adverse.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Huh, never heard of that, it sounds pretty cool since it covers not just streaming movies, but downloads of games as well. I can definitely see the appeal.

Anticorp, (edited )

Check out Stremio+Real-Debrid+Torrentio. It’s honestly better than any paid subscription you can get from the studios. Install it on something like a Chromecast 4k, or a Shield TV device, hook it up to your home entertainment system, and you’ve got yourself a bonafide real solution.

Unicode13051,
@Unicode13051@lemmyf.uk avatar

If you’re paying for it, then you could argue that you aren’t “stealing” it. How are you (or at least the average person) suppose to know that the steaming service you used got their content illegally? This way, all of the liability falls on the streamer rather than the consumer.

Maalus,

Instead of paying for 50 streaming platforms, you pay for one that has it all. Convenient.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

I didn’t know that was a thing. Good for people who want to toss a coin to your streamer, I guess.

overzeetop,
@overzeetop@lemmy.world avatar

[Raises hand]

I don’t have time to fuck with managing a seedbox to make ratios and community participation bullshit (looking at you, abt). I don’t even have time to fight incompletes on a usenet block. Let me drop a Benjamin in your “donation” box every couple of years and I’ll cover part of the server as long as I can find what I need, when I want it, in the quality I’m looking for.

I have subscriptions to a few of the big boys through legal cross-marketing deals; it’s still better to know that my shows will be waiting for me on my server if and when I ever get around to watching them.

ColeSloth, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

Y’all fucked up by not leaving everything on Netflix.

yamanii,
@yamanii@lemmy.world avatar

The mystery of how movie companies can’t own cinemas but can own streaming services.

Thordros, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@Thordros@hexbear.net avatar

Oh my God, that’s disgusting! Illegal streaming services online? Where? Where did they post those?

thats-disgusting-where

EfreetSK, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@EfreetSK@lemmy.world avatar

Can someone list those piracy subscription services so we can avoid them as responsible citizens?

Chakravanti,

IPTorrents is even worse at iptorrents.com for only $10/mo

jballs,
@jballs@sh.itjust.works avatar

You should definitely avoid XtremeHD IPTV (xtremehdiptv.org). For $15 a month, it’s way too cheap to offer all the live TV, movies, and series that it does. The article specifically mentions low pricing as a red flag, and I can definitely say that compared to what you’d normally pay for every live channel (including the premium ones and pay per view), series, and any just about any movie you can think of, this is most definitely a service that you should steer clear of.

YeetPics, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@YeetPics@mander.xyz avatar

I don’t use these services, but after learning a bit about them I have to say I’d rather pay an honest thief than one who lies about ownership ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Matty_r, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@Matty_r@programming.dev avatar

So what they’re saying is they could get all that extra revenue if they lower their price and just undercut the competition?

Vendetta9076,
@Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works avatar

Piracy is a service problem

Zink,

Yeah, but good service is a profit problem!

/s

prole,

Not sure why you added the “/s” as you’re not wrong

Zink,

Yeah I didn’t think I needed it. It was a last second addition just in case.

Feliberto, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

I’ve been doing this for free.

Meme: You guys are getting paid?

Jessica, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

sparking concerns on Wall Street that the services will never be as profitable as cable once was

Obligatory fuck Wall Street

Zuberi,
@Zuberi@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

All my homies hate wall street

shasta,

Yeah this was the entire reason streaming was successful. It was cheaper than cable. Did they think more money would appear from nothing?

ChairmanMeow,
@ChairmanMeow@programming.dev avatar

They always think that.

sooper_dooper_roofer, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

not my problem

nullPointer,

“your failed business model is not my problem”

ksgt69, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.

Oh no. Poor Hollywood. Darn.

neo, to piracy in Streaming Pirates Are Hollywood’s New Villains - Illegal subscription services that steal films or TV shows bring in $2 billion a year in ads and subscriber fees.
@neo@lemmy.comfysnug.space avatar

Vote with your wallet, they told us.

Then they got massively butthurt when we voted with our wallets.

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