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mac, (edited ) to linuxmemes in Every god damn time!
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My most recent version of this was symlinking SSL Certs before building Nix packages, a simple task I just kept forgetting to and was then greeted by errors.

Alexstarfire, to foodporn in Steak and shishito pepper bowl

Now I’m hungry. I hate you.

not_woody_shaw, to espresso in Spent a chunk of yesterday cleaning the coffee station.

Is that the official baratza single dose hopper? How do you like it?

Norgur, to linuxmemes in It's OK if you cry

The very evening I installed Linux for the first time (I think it was Ubuntu 12.04), my Wifi stick was the first major hurdle. I was a teenager, had no idea about package managers and such, but the drivers for my stick were only available in an uncompiled format, so I had to first learn what build utils and kernel dev packages were, download them and their dependencies onto the windows PC of my dad and copy them onto a CD.

After I had figured all that out (took me.a while), I learned how to compile on the fly.

After I had run ./configure and it finallyfinally ran through without error, the config script had this last line:

Configure done successfully. Now type 'make' and pray

Things have changed over the years, but they haven't changed enough.

NaoPb, (edited )

Whenever I come across something I’d have to build myself, I just give up. No matter the instruction, there is always something wrong.

0x4E4F, (edited )

That is true on any LTS distro. Try rolling release, works without a glitch almost every time… well, at least on Void it does.

Norgur,

I read the previous comment and thought to myself "I bet there is some reply about LTS vs rolling release to this". I KNEW IT!

0x4E4F, (edited )

Yep, been in the same boat 😂. Was an LTS fan for a long long time till I realized… this shit ain’t worth it 😂.

Everthing there is out there in 99% of the cases compiles against latest libraries. And well, LTS is just… lagging behind 🤷. So, you solve one lib dependcy and then, bam, another one pops up… OK, solved that one, bam, another one 😒… it just gets frustrating to compile stuff on LTS.

And then you get all sorts of errors from the package manager cuz you did the unthinkable - install latest libs on an LTS distro.

LTS is good for one thing only nowadays - servers.

NaoPb,

Interesting. I did not know about that. I’ll be sure to give rolling a try then.

Norgur,

Compiling starts to work rather well once you've done it a few times. Especially when you get more used to understanding what ./configure tries to tell you. You should really try to get behind that, since you Linux will

https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=E9Ftjm4FfMg6F2IU

NaoPb,

Allright. You’ve convinced me not to give up.

And that Rick Roll song perfectly sums up how I personally think of Linux. I will not be giving it up. And I will not be saying goodbye.

0x4E4F,

This has to be the best script message I’ve ever seen 😂.

Norgur,

Netgear WiFi USB drivers. Weren't good for much, but this one message was true as fuck!

null, to linuxmemes in sudo !!

Why does sudo !! never work for me?

metaStatic,

Username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported

Illecors, to linuxmemes in sudo !!

I used to do sudo !!, but then I’ve started learning the shortcuts of my shell a bit more - Ctrl+A jumps to the beginning of the line, which, technically speaking, is a saving of 1 (!) keystroke, compared to Shift+1+1.

This has also led to discover that emacs is actually much more useful compared to vim as it uses the same shortcuts.

hedgehog,

If you already submitted the command, you’ll have to hit Up first to have a line to jump to the beginning of, though, so it’ll be the same number of keystrokes either way.

I do the same thing you do, just with vi-mode keystrokes (up, then esc-I).

TheWoozy, to linuxmemes in It's OK if you cry

If you want to scream, try wifi drivers on BSD!

0x4E4F,

Mhm… have tried it… not gonna try it again… gave up after 3 days, went back to Linux.

M500, to linuxmemes in Steve Balmer quotes

I was just thinking about why many things on Linux are better. Like the install process on Linux is years ahead of windows.

Then it occurred to me that windows only improves things that can make them money. If you need to install windows, then you can deal with the crappy installer.

Linux devs improve the parts they think need to be better. The decisions are not guided by money and can be made without bias.

cuibono,

This realization somehow amazes and depresses me at the same time

Lmaydev,

The install process on windows is clicking a few buttons.

For the vast majority of users it’s a way better experience.

MonkderZweite,

The install process on windows is clicking a few buttons.

That’s the default tracking experience, if you fall for all the dark patterns. Was a while ago, hunh?

scarilog,

There’s that one screen where you disable telemetry, which I’ve always consider a part of the install process, but is there anything malicious other than that? The process as a whole is quite straightforward in my experience.

Lmaydev,

Again the vast vast majority of users don’t care. And that’s their target audience.

RandomVideos,

From my experience(installing windows 10, 11, linux mint and nobara), installing linux is way easier than installing windows

crispy_kilt,

Linux devs improve the parts they think need to be better. The decisions are not guided by money and can be made without bias.

Sounds pretty communist

avidamoeba, (edited )
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Sounds like the decisions about what to make, how to make it and for whom to make it are done by the people doing the work. 🤔🫢

danc4498,

Most people don’t install windows. It comes pre installed on something they bought. Microsoft probably puts more time into automating the process.

Also, last time I installed windows it was a breeze. I haven’t installed Linux in at least a decade, so I can’t speak for that.

kaboom36,

Try installing debian some time, the installer makes windows’ installer feel like its for a piece of software you got of a sketchy site that wants to install 16 other things not even related to it

hackris,

I mean, sounds exactly like the Windows installer to me

kaboom36,

We must be using different installers then, because between the amount of telemetry you have to turn off, the dark patterns, and the insistence on using a Microsoft account the whole experience reminds me of installing one of those “driver updaters” when I was a kid and before I learned that was a very bad idea

captain_oni,

I trust Bonzi Buddy more than anything made by microsoft at this point.

exocortex, (edited )

Now that you’ve got the idea apply it to everything in capitalist society. Especially if something is owned by shareholders.

joyjoy, to linuxmemes in We need to stick together!

You measure your transfer rate in xetabits? That pretty fast.

0x4E4F,

In x rated videos per second 😂.

owatnext, to linuxmemes in We need to stick together!

But xbps is genuinely the best package manager I have ever used.

0x4E4F,

Mhm… pretty much 👍.

randomwords, to linuxmemes in We need to stick together!

Now there are two of them!

I am loving void so much, it has made Linux fun again!

0x4E4F,

It has made Linux fun, period 😂.

lelgenio, to linuxmemes in We need to stick together!
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Ex Bee Pee Ass

owatnext,

ExBepis? That’s how I have always said it lmao.

woelkchen, to linuxmemes in We need to stick together!
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XBox PlayStation? 🤔

0x4E4F,

Bingo 😂.

Max_P, to linux in Can someone explain user namespaces and risks to me? - Infosec.Pub
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There’s historically been some privilege escalations, such as cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2023-3…

But at the same time, they do offer increased security when they work correctly. It’s like saying we shouldn’t use virtualization anymore because historically some virtual devices have been exploitable in a way that you could escape the VM. Or lately, Spectre/Meltdown. Or a bit of an older one, Rowhammer.

Sometimes, security measures open a hole while closing many others. That’s how software works unfortunately, especially in something as complex as the Linux kernel.

Using namespaces and keeping your system up to date is the best you can do as a user. Or maybe add a layer of VM. But no solution is foolproof, if you really need that much security use multiple devices, ideally airgapped ones whenever possible.

Pantherina,

Thanks. But is not using user namespaces just as bad as having no isolation, or can bubblewrap-suid or even Browsers isolate anyways?

Because thats what makes me curious, does removing them for security make the system less secure?

superbirra, to linuxmemes in It's OK if you cry

from when this shit comes from, 2000?

s_s,

6 years ago, I was using a USB wifi adapter with my desktop (my friends next door paid for internet and we paid them half the bill to share).

I had picked this wifi adapter specifically because it had linux support, even though I used windows (I had an inkling I’d switch). So, I tried to switch but upon boot I couldn’t wifi because the adapters module wasn’t bundled by my distro so I had to instal ‘dkms’, but I couldn’t do that without an internet connection…

So yeah, it can still bite you.

superbirra,

lol, could you realize your story would be the same if you just replaced relevant software names?

s_s,

Windows shipped with said driver.

superbirra,

eh, next time pay linux owners and spare a reboot :D

beckerist,

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  • lightnsfw,

    I had a similar experience trying to install a m.2 drive in my win7 PC. It needed a hotfix to work but Microsoft had taken down the downloads so I ended up finding out it was in an update pack from I think Lenovo’s website and pulled it out of that.

    0x4E4F,

    To get it to work in Windows I literally had to go to a website that was only Chinese, download a zip file, and extract a dll that would then work when pointed to.

    It’s called manual driver install in Windows… pretty common with older hardware.

    Honytawk,

    Most of those just go over Windows Update now or work with a generic driver that comes with Windows. Only really obscure drivers need manual installation.

    0x4E4F, (edited )

    Agreed. Most drivers are found through Windows update.

    I guess I just have old hardware 🤷. My latest hardware is 9 years old… well, apart from my phone 😂.

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