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CubbyTustard, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy

These communities end up with so many false positives. Some people just like sharing when they find stuff they like!

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

I’m sure we will have false positives. Luckily, having your comment or post shared on hailcorporate doesn’t disqualify you from anything.

I’ll hopefully be able to recognize witch hunts for what they are. If this community isn’t for you, please exercise your right to ignore it. :)

CeruleanRuin,
@CeruleanRuin@lemmy.world avatar

That’s how a lot of marketing astroturfing works though.

You let people post things organically, then you signal boost the shit out of them, and nobody can claim it’s false or contrived, because OP really did just post a thing they like.

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

How is a corporation going to signal boost someone in a website they don’t even know exists for a platform of a few thousand reliable everyday users when they have no presence with which to “boost” it?

NexiusLobster, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy
@NexiusLobster@lemmy.world avatar

is it just me or does this community have zero posts?

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Is it me or did I create this community within the last hour?

clayh, (edited )

You didn’t create anything. You just registered a community name.

It’s like the Great Value version of domain squatting.

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

You’re arguing semantics here, weird nerd. Who cares what you call what I did to bring this community into reality? I pressed a few buttons and the thing that was in my mind now exists in the world and is impossible for you to do anything about.

Did you want to add anything of value to the conversation?

clayh,

Did you?

c0mbatbag3l,
@c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world avatar

now exists in the world and is impossible for you to do anything about.

Is the corporate astro turfer with us in the room right now, demesisx?

There’s a snowball’s chance in hell that corporations are spending their time and money trying to convince the few dozen active posters and few thousand commenters of anything. Most corporations with a PR department probably don’t even know Lemmy exists let alone has a significant enough number of users to matter to their interests.

Even if all of that weren’t true, you’ve still done nothing but created a community which I’m sure takes all of the time that setting up a new voice channel on discord does. Congratulations, you’ve created a place where random people who don’t agree with you will be framed as corporate imps for having an independent thought or knowledge of how the world works that you just can’t wrap your head around.

“Impossible for you to do anything about”

Lol it’s like watching Jerry from R&M leaving the day care and being told that he was always allowed, we really couldn’t care less but you’ll take this criticism as “those darn corpos trying to ruin Lemmy!” Instead of people calling you out for providing nothing and then pretending you are some activist striking out against the man.

wahming, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy

Based on OP’s comments on this thread, I can only imagine what the modding of the community is going to look like

demesisx, (edited )
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Let’s characterize it!

I won’t abide stanning for the billionaire class or calls to impotent civility. I very much have in my heart EXACTLY the spirit of what /r/HailCorporate was and if you doubt that, you are exactly the type of corporatist cuck that I created this community to reveal.

Now to characterize your privileged perspective:

“I have no sympathy for marginalized groups, quite literally pleading for their lives. If they wanted my sympathy, they should have done so more politely!”

wahming,

I haven’t even gone into my personal opinions, but gj on deducing them.

Just what the fediverse needs. Another pit of toxicity and baseless witch hunting.

samus12345,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Best one:

hexbear.net is the place for people like me

Tells you everything you need to know.

LinkOpensChest_wav, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy

I really hope this takes off. I was on r/HailCorporate on reddit, and it really lost its steam at some point. People often feel uncomfortable closely examining how we can unwittingly spread advertising. I know I do, try as I might to be cognizant of this.

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

I have run into too many instances of billionaire defenders on lemmy.world and kbin.social for this community NOT to exist. I get into strange arguments (where, from my perspective, I am just defending common sense or open standards) with frothing fascist, astroturfing fanbois about their chosen billionaire and I felt like I had nowhere to go, “look at this fucking corporate cuck”. ;)

rikudou,
@rikudou@lemmings.world avatar

And your solution is to start a community without contributing to it?

demesisx,
@demesisx@infosec.pub avatar

Are you being ironically obtuse?

Towerofpain11, to foodporn in Steak and shishito pepper bowl

Aw yeah this looks really good! Got a recipe?

Dhrystone,
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rozPierog, to espresso in Spent a chunk of yesterday cleaning the coffee station.

That poor milk jug is just barely hanging on. Great setup!

wfh,

It’s giving me anxiety 😅

pezhore,

Yeah, unfortunately I share this space with a KitchenAid Mixer and space is tight.

sinadia, to espresso in Spent a chunk of yesterday cleaning the coffee station.

I love your coffee station! Where is that Grogu from? He’s adorable.

pezhore,

I have no clue - it was a gift from my wife. I’ll see if she remembers and I’ll post back.

gotrandom, to espresso in Spent a chunk of yesterday cleaning the coffee station.

Aeropress when?

pezhore,

Hah, that’s sitting underneath along with a Hario Switch, Chemex 6cup, and a MK Dripper.

I may have a problem/Coffee Prep ADHD.

AVincentInSpace, (edited ) to linuxmemes in It's OK if you cry

Those have gotten a lot better in recent years. Last time I had an issue with WiFi drivers was in 2016.

Graphics drivers, on the other hand, especially Optimus…

9point6,

Some of us are still recovering from the trauma

state_electrician,

I sometimes still think about the time I was trying to print in 1996.

rostby,

Iwlwifi firmware-a0-gf has not been detected… 😔

remotelove, (edited )
@remotelove@lemmy.ca avatar

I never have. Just thinking about WiFi and Bluetooth drivers on random laptops still puts me into a full flashback state. (My first experience was back in 2002, I think?)

However, getting all of that stuff working was the best learning experience I ever had. At the time, I was just learning about IT security and WiFi pcap was all the rage back then.

0x4E4F,

I never have. Just thinking about WiFi and Bluetooth drivers on random laptops still puts me into a full flashback state. (My first experience was back in 2002, I think?)

https://infosec.pub/pictrs/image/9c44f85c-31dc-4ce4-8696-ffbb3b7b82d3.webm

quantumantics,

Same, flashbacks to being in college trying to get Wi-Fi working in Fedora on my laptop and then struggling to get it to work with my uni’s new Wi-Fi system. Frustrating, but a great learning experience as you said.

Vqhm,

Even a decade ago it usually meant ticking a box that you also allowed nonfree drivers.

Even Debian allowed you to download the specific nonfree driver you needed and add it (without Internet) at imaging so post install you could connect with wifi and not just Ethernet.

It’s come a long way. But doesn’t anyone else remember when windows did not have drivers and you’d constantly be confronted with “have disk”?

I mean, the amount of drivers for old hardware I still have saved… Because before win10 nothing would reliability always fetch the driver you need from the net…

bjorney,

Ticking the non-free driver box was child’s play. As late as like 2012 I remember needing to download NDISwrapper so I could make the windows drivers work through a compatibility layer

KISSmyOS,

Oh god, why did you have to trigger that memory???

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I mean, if you buy broadcom you reap what you sow. And 2012 was 11 years ago. ;-)

bjorney,

When I bought my laptop i was using windows and didn’t research Linux compatibility :(

And yup. A decade ago was when Linux turned a corner on the wifi driver front, 11 years ago was hell

be_excellent_to_each_other,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

When I bought my laptop i was using windows and didn’t research Linux compatibility :(

I apologize for my general grumpiness this morning. Totally reasonable. :-)

And yup. A decade ago was when Linux turned a corner on the wifi driver front, 11 years ago was hell

I lol'd. :-)

Cenzorrll,

I recall jaunty jackalope being the Ubuntu version that became my full time os. It was that version that my IBM x31 had everything taken care of on install with the third party drivers checked. I feel like the LTS version following that was where you could buy a generation previous of any hardware and it’d work without much fuss.

DannyBoy,

This reminds me of the big USB drive of drivers that we had at a PC repair shop. When Windows 7 failed to find drivers, we’d stick that in and give it a scan.

AtariDump,

I remember that, but for Xp. Downloading a “driver pack”, pointing windows at the root of the folder, and praying.

SorryQuick,

The nvidia driver has had this bug for a year now, still unfixed. Games will randomly crash with an Xid 109 error in dmesg. Some people (including myself) are unable to play games like Cyberpunk, Resident Evil 2-3-4-7-8 and Metro Exodus. And it’s not linked to proton either, it sometimes also crashes xorg itself, forcing a reboot. I’m starting to think nvidia will never bother fixing it.

LemmysMum,

3% desktop marketshare, it’s stop to pick up money, not go out of your way money.

KSPAtlas,
@KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz avatar

I just had to deal with nvidia breaking xwayland and making it unusable with an update

ryannathans, to linuxmemes in It's OK if you cry

If you think that’s bad, try wifi on FreeBSD

KISSmyOS,

I’ve read that the only way to get usable speeds is to set your wifi device up inside a linux container.

MigratingtoLemmy,

set your wifi device up inside a linux container

Could you tell me how I could do that? I don’t think FreeBSD jails support anything other than the linux compatibility layer

KISSmyOS, (edited )
MigratingtoLemmy,

At least I found someone who likes Yorushika!

Cut her some slack, she’s barely 21. At 21 I was a nugget of dung when it came to technicalities like this

ryannathans, (edited )

Or to get anything past wifi 4, or to use 5ghz

It’s bullshit because there are many products on the market running freebsd with great wifi (PlayStation as one example)

0x4E4F,

Just goes to show you that permissive licenses are generally not a good thing 🤷.

ryannathans,

Meh, I still generally prefer them. Not like everyone would be able to use the PlayStation wifi hardware anyway

0x4E4F,

Each to his own ☺️ 🤷.

possiblylinux127,

Wait, what’s past 5Ghz

seaQueue, to linuxmemes in It's OK if you cry
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus Christ OP use trigger warnings

CowsLookLikeMaps,

Broadcom
shudders

seaQueue,
@seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

Broadcom looks good next to Realtek, and both of them stand head and shoulders above Mediatek.

0x4E4F,

🤣🤣🤣

possiblylinux127,

WiFi be like that

JackLSauce, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy

That name and image are really confusing with the stated intent of the community

photonic_sorcerer, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy
@photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Eh, I think this community would lead to me seeing even more posts shilling for companies. No thanks.

moosetwin, to newcommunities in HailCorporate: Call Out Corporate Astroturfing on Lemmy
@moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I saw one of these comments yesterday; I’d post it there, but it got deleted :(

Chaser, to foodporn in Steak and shishito pepper bowl

My god, I love stir fried baby corn

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