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Bread, to memes in Its the only way.

Yeet? No. Eat. Yes. We reduce pollution and world hunger at the same time!

AngryCommieKender,

Trebuchets require no permits to own or operate, are environmentally friendly, and can yeet the fattest of fat cats over 100m. That should be sufficient.

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Bread,

I like the way you think.

Serinus, to memes in Its the only way.

“Hey, we’re sending you guys to the moon. You have six months. Prepare.”

NegativeInf,

Launches rocket fleet directly into the sun.

Eldritch,

Nah. Just load them all up on the same day, same time, and just detonate. Save on fuel and greenhouse gases.

AngryCommieKender, (edited )

It takes more fuel to fire them into the sun, than deep space. It’s counterintuitive, but you have to shed a lot of velocity to “fall in,” but only expend a fraction as much to hit escape velocity, as you’re already going quite fast.

jaschen, to linuxmemes in Hot take

Just installed Mint to try it out because it looks similar to Windows. Don’t judge me.

Whitebrow,

Installed it on a thin client instead of win10 iot for the same reason, basic functionality all there, being used as a media streaming browser machine, no regrets.

Had previous experience with fedora and others many years prior, definitely can tell how far it all progressed since

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I installed Mint for the sake of trying it and I quite liked Cinnamon, but after that I did some distro and desktop hopping, I will not go back until it has proper Wayland support.

Interstellar_1,
@Interstellar_1@pawb.social avatar

It has proper Wayland support.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

Cinnamon? If you’ve seen the news that it’s getting Wayland support, it doesn’t mean it has now or anywhere in the near future.

acockworkorange,

I’ve been using Linux in different capacities since the late 90s. I use Mint with Cinnamon because it’s stable, does all I need and I don’t need to fuss with it. You’re more than fine.

seth,

MintOS is fresh and full of life. It’s the freshmaker!

rustydomino, to lotrmemes in They are not for eating
@rustydomino@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve not seen this meme format before but I’m really liking it! It’s more wholesome than the Captain America in an elevator template.

CaptnKarisma,

Thanks man its something I memesmithed back on another site I won’t mention. Not sure Lemmy has a meme template community but I could post the blank one in the feed maybe.

workerONE, (edited ) to memes in Its the only way.

I really like that design. But realistically a socialist society would be better off if you integrated the rich into the middle class and forced them into service to society.

iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

include in this list all the ruling party politicians for the last 50 years. let them experience the mean of what they were able to achieve

FishLake,

Lol this guy thinks a socialist society should have a middle class. Realistically they’re a goddamn moron.

Tinidril,

Not that I care what they want, but I think most would prefer to be yeeted.

sukhmel,

All the more reasons not to

Linkerbaan, to linuxmemes in Hot take
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

New Linux Users don’t even know the difference.

hellfire103,
@hellfire103@sopuli.xyz avatar

Ha! Yeah, I remember that phase. I was planning to install LXDE as my first distro, simply because I thought the wallpaper looked cool.

citrusface,

Yeah hi that’s me - I just use pop_os and everything works so I just roll with it

uranibaba,

PopOS is great! I have used a few other (but never strayed far from APT), and I also did some light reading when doing my final decision . PopOS was the best fit for and easy-to-use OS without Snaps. Linux is great and all with how much control you have, but I want as little maintenance as possible for my daily driver.

citrusface,

Yeah that’s all I need - I’m super into everyone else hyper customizing what they use, I love seeing everything that can be done, but I just need something that works and pop_os is it, and as I’ve said before, my games run better on pip_os than they ever did on win 10/11

Mikina, (edited )

I agree - was switching to Fedora about month and a half ago, and only learned about KDE vs Gnome like a week ago, when I was reinstaling to Nobara to fix some NVIDIA issues.

I did hear terms like KDE or Gnome thrown around, but never really realized that it’s actually and important choice. And once you add X11 vs Wayland to the mix, it’s suddenly so confusing I just subconsciously choose to ignore that choice and went with whatever the OS installed for me. I though that DE chouse is similar to X11 vs Wayland choice, i.e something tha is more about back-end than front-end, and didn’t realize that’s literally how your OS UI looks and controls, instead of how it works in the background (which I now know is what X11 vs Wayland is actually about)

Turned out I really don’t like Gnome (Which was default for Fedora), but love KDE, which was thankfully a default for Nobara.

So, if you’re ever recommending Linux to someone, be it in a comment or somwhere else, or someone is asking for a recommended distro, please include a short paragraph about the importance of choosing the correct DE, and explanation of what it is and that you can change it!

iAvicenna, to memes in Its the only way.
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar
iAvicenna,
@iAvicenna@lemmy.world avatar

yes I know its not an adjective thanks

TORFdot0, to linuxmemes in Hot take

The important thing is the package manager really. Then you can install and uninstall whatever DE you want

Foofighter,

Actively choosing a package manager is way beyond a Linux beginners capabilities IMHO.

Neil,
@Neil@lemmy.ml avatar

I agree with this, which is kinda why distro is more important than DE at the end of the day.

UncleStewart, to linuxmemes in Hot take

Haha, true. Started with Mint, now on Kubuntu. Same pig, different makeup.

tubaruco,

isnt kubuntu worse for installing flatpaks? thats the only thing i can think of that differs and i wanted to know.

sailingbythelee,

Ubuntu is VERY heavily invested in snaps at a very basic level. I think the recommendation is to not mix snaps and Flatpaks as they may not interact well. As a new Ubuntu user, I’m slowly discovering some of the random problems with snaps.

For example, just the other day, I was trying to configure my fish shell using the html-based fish_configure utility, but it just wouldn’t work. Of course, I assumed the problem was with my fish install. After a couple hours fiddling with it, I finally came across a stack exchange comment indicating that the snap version of Firefox simply can’t access the /tmp/ directory, which is where fish_config creates its html configuration page. WTF? Also, you can’t even install a non-snap version of Firefox via apt because the official apt repository just links back to the snap version! I finally installed an apt-based version of librewolf, but had to get it from a non-Ubuntu repository, and then magically I could access to fish_config html page. That’s a pretty long workaround just to view a simple HTML page!

So, if snaps have problems like this just interacting with the base Linux file system, I wouldn’t be surprised if random weird behavior cropped up when trying to use Flatpaks.

jemikwa,

You do have to add flathub to the discover store, but that’s a one time thing and you’re good afterwards

denast, (edited ) to linuxmemes in Hot take

Not a hot take, I keep saying the same thing in different threads. I was not able to switch to Linux for years before I understood that I have problems with Gnome not with Linux itself, tried KDE and given I was migrating from Windows it clicked immediately.

After you gain some experience, DE becomes mostly irrelevant, but it is crucial for starting off in an unfamiliar environment.

tubaruco,

the DE is very important unless you have A LOT of free time and REALLY WANT to see something different from what youre used to.

my first distro (other than ubuntu in school computers, but we dont talk about those) was fedora server minimal install, where i installed dwm and had fun using it. i had just switched from windows and was happy to have so many options, even though i had (almost) no linux experience before. after trying most of the big DEs and distros, i ended up on arch with xfce, which i have been using for more than a year now.

most people really should go slower and try things step by step, as what i did would be really weird for anyone that tried it …probably

lvxferre, to linuxmemes in Hot take
@lvxferre@mander.xyz avatar

I’m not sure if it is, but I don’t see it as a hot take. And it sounds reasonable, specially when some distros offer different “flavours” out-of-the-box, and offer you the option of different DEs before you even installed it.

ook_the_librarian,
@ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world avatar

It’s certainly not a hot take. Every “which distro should I try thread” is just a discussion of the different DEs out there. I would like to hear about different package managers. I always seem happiest with apt, and I don’t know why.

SchrodingersPat,

Fair. But “Lukewarm take” just doesn’t have the same punch.

CaptainBasculin, (edited ) to linuxmemes in Hot take

on a related note, help I’m too used to my i3wm config and now I cant switch to wayland at all, what do I do when xorg gets fully depreciated

NotSteve_,

I’ve heard sway is a drop in replacement of i3 for wayland. Only going off what I’ve heard though since I haven’t tried it myself

rescue_toaster,

Sway is basically the wayland version of i3. I’ve switched to wayland on my new laptop and learning sway after using i3 for years has been relatively easy.

z3rOR0ne, (edited )
@z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml avatar

Yeah, the config syntax is exactly the same. The major difference is the wayland version of various programs can be hard to figure out with out some decent google-fu.

I’m on BSPWM on X11, but have been trying river wm and that is a much less friendly conversion than i3 to sway. I’d convert entirely were it not for certain applications still not quite working on wayland without considerable configuration (wacom tablet drivers don’t work, screenshottung and eyedropper tools are available but still need more work to be feature comparable with equivalent tools on X11).

And I’m using proprietary NVIDIA drivers which are currently stuttering real bad on the wlroots protocol since driver update to 545 (sway/river both stutter bad whenever lots of movement on the screen, I’ve tried many tweaks to my environment variables to no avail).

So…just gonna wait for app, wayland, nvidia devs to eventually make the migrate worth while.

darganon,

Wayland being so Nvidia hostile while Nvidia is the only name for AI is kind of a kick in the balls

avidamoeba, (edited ) to linuxmemes in A rough translation of the principle of Ubuntu is "humanity towards others". Another translation could be: "the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity".
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Memes are cool. Blatant misinformation in the form of a meme to manufacture outrage, not so much.

cypherpunks,
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

huh? what is the misinformation here?

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Even though this has been explained many times since the whole hullabaloo, I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware and/or perhaps got rage-farmed by someone else’s meme. The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro. There is net new support by Canonical that covers community-supported packages too which is available with Ubuntu Pro subscription. Therefore Canonical hasn’t removed any existing, previously free security support. In addition, this newly added security support is available for free for up to 5 machines and it lasts for 10 years.

More info here: discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntu-pro-faq/34042

cypherpunks, (edited )
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

I’ll assume you’re genuinely unaware

I’m perfectly aware of what Ubuntu Pro is, and the difference between Ubuntu main and universe.

The current meme implies that Ubuntu/Canonical have actively disabled safety/security features in the form of withholding security updates, unless you pay for Ubuntu Pro subscription. The Ubuntu package support hasn’t changed with the introduction of Ubuntu Pro. The packages that were supported by Canonical prior to this are supported the same way today. The packages that were community supported prior to this are supported the same way today. Without Ununtu Pro.

If you think the meme implies that, then surely you must think that the message printed by Ubuntu’s apt upgrade command in the screenshot implies that too, right?

One of the packages listed in this screenshot is libavcodec, which is required by things like VLC (which is in Ubuntu universe, which is enabled by default).

If you think it is perfectly fine for Canonical to do the work to patch that library and then withhold the security update from the vast majority of Ubuntu users who won’t sign up for Ubuntu Pro… we’ll have to agree to disagree.

zero_spelled_with_an_ecks,

As a sysadmin that dealt with IBM “helping” CentOS into an early grave, I refuse to give canonical or any for-profit corporation the benefit of the doubt here. After seeing how many products start out free and move towards paid or ad supported models once they think they can get away with it, I doubt this is done out of goodwill, either.

avidamoeba, (edited )
@avidamoeba@lemmy.ca avatar

Don’t need to. It’s useful while free for people who wouldn’t otherwise pay for it. If/when we get the rug pulled from under us, mothrrship Debian is right there.

Shameless, to linuxmemes in Hot take

I’m still not fully across Linux because my job requires me to use Windows everyday. That said I’ve been using Pop_OS! On my personal machine for over two years now and its been flawless, requires little upkeep and minimal use of the terminal, the times I’ve needed to install stuff using the terminal has also been flawless which gives me extra confidence.

Whatever gives the least complicated experience and just works with little extra work is what will win out in the end for the day to day user. People generally just want to get on their machine, use the programs they want and not be interrupted by anything else from the computer, barring updates, we have all come to understand the importance of updates as routine maintenance.

ryannathans,

I RDP to a windows machine to work, from Pop_OS!. It’s nice because all the little stuff like web browsing can be done in my linux environment

pewgar_seemsimandroid,

ask your manager to allow you to use linux

Mango, to linuxmemes in Hot take

Well sure. My approach for looking for a distro was usually “which ones have KDE and pacman” and after that I start comparing.

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

And for me, AUR.

idefix,

Which distribs have pacman but not AUR?

Octopus1348,
@Octopus1348@lemy.lol avatar

I just wanted to mention that if a distro (somehow) had AUR but not pacman, I wouldn’t care.

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