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MadPlaid, to science_memes in linguistics

Out of curiosity, shouldn’t there be a comma after the “or” in the third panel?

HonoraryMancunian,

No I don’t think it’s necessary at all, unless the author wanted to emphasise a pause there

radix,
@radix@lemm.ee avatar

Grammatically, no, because “or” is a coordinating conjunction (for, and, nor, but, or, yet, so), and coordinating conjunctions are a way to join two independent clauses, like a semicolon. They are used after an independent clause and a comma, and they are followed by another coordinating conjunction.

Here’s two independent clauses: I got scratched by a cat. I’m sad.

Here’s a way to join them with a semicolon: I got scratched by a cat; I’m sad. The semicolon replaces the period.

Here’s a way to join them with a coordinating conjunction: I got scratched by a cat, so I’m sad. The , so replaces the semicolon/period.

Note that I got scratched by a cat so, I’m sad is incorrect, because to join two independent clauses, you’re supposed to put the comma first and then the conjunction, in that order. Colloquially, people will often omit the comma entirely, to reflect pronunciation I guess. But as far as I can tell, people don’t generally pronounce a pause between the coordinating conjunction and the following independent clause, so they don’t put a comma there either.

MadPlaid,

I really appreciate this comment and enjoy that I learned something today.

radix,
@radix@lemm.ee avatar

I’m so glad it didn’t come off as passive-aggressive or rude. Thank you for this message. I hope you have a truly wonderful day, my friend.

GarbageShoot, to memes in fuck it

This is functionally a case of affirming the consequent or something similar. “Ball is life” is really expressing something more like “there is no life worth living except one involving ball”, so “fuck it we ball” is needed to keep living a worthwhile life if you assume that, but it’s not really an endorsement of living itself.

It’s like how, if I believe “drinking is the only reason I live”, saying “I want to drink” only endorses “I want to live” incidentally at best, rather than the two statements being equivalent. It’s like, in a mundane context, saying you want to eat. Eating is a condition of living, but the desire to eat is not identical to the desire to live, and a suicidal person can still be hungry and eat not to live but merely to relieve the pain of hunger. So too can the alcoholic lifestylist drink and the baller ball for the sake of their enjoyment of the respective activity (or aversion to how they feel without it) without there being a direct desire to live as such.

ImmortanStalin,

If ever a username were a complete mismatch to its comment…

UnRelatedBurner,

ball

The_Eminent_Bon, to memes in fuck it

Fuck it we’ll do it live

lemillionsocks, to science_memes in linguistics
@lemillionsocks@beehaw.org avatar

I find people who actually study language are more tolerant toward different pronunciations and informal speech and colloquialisms and less likely to be grammar nazis.

SuiXi3D,
@SuiXi3D@kbin.social avatar

Probably because they understand that all language is made up and they all change constantly. There’s no hard and fast rules.

bdonvr,

Language science/grammar/etc are all just observations of a natural phenomena, they are not laws to dictate.

v4ld1z,
@v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

See description vs prescription for anyone interested

gnomesaiyan, to memes in fuck it
@gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world avatar

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

Custoslibera, to memes in fuck it

I thought this was going to start relating to Space Jam and how ball saved the universe.

moistclump,

I have no doubt that this is the essay thesis and the body of the paper goes into space jam in great detail.

EnsignRedshirt, to memes in fuck it

“Living’ la vida loca” would translate roughly as “Ballin’ the crazy ball”, which sounds pretty fun, tbh

GarbageShoot,

“Viva la vida” meanwhile is “ball the ball”, which just sounds like someone trying to remember that Kid Rock song

rhythmisaprancer, to science_memes in linguistics
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

Well this changes that Alice In Chains song for me 🕳️

But this is something that makes English both frustrating and fascinating!

Frozengyro,

All language is like this. It’s a large part of why communication is actually very difficult.

rhythmisaprancer,
@rhythmisaprancer@kbin.social avatar

This is awesome. I only know some of one other language but am not as fluent in it. This is good to know, thanks!

whereBeWaldo, to science_memes in soyjack
pythonoob, to science_memes in soyjack

I’ve never heard of that before.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

You’re lucky. It’s a term used by conservatives (people who oppose the concept of morality unless it’s where they pretend to have morals in order to commit awful acts against others) to belittle people who think morals aren’t “for fags”

Pregnenolone,

I’m taking it back and use it on right wingers because when you look at them, they really do look like soyboys.

TrickDacy,
@TrickDacy@lemmy.world avatar

Lol I wanna party with this mofo

Donkter,

Get a load of this soyjack ova here.

drolex,

Then how do you explain I found a drawing of you as a soyjak, pictured close to myself as a Chad?

pythonoob,

Shit, that um…

Well …

eestileib, to memes in fuck it

I’m actually inspired by this.

LongbottomLeaf, to memes in fuck it

This is getting heavy, Doc.

sooper_dooper_roofer, to science_memes in soyjack

I saw the first wojak get posted

AMA

blindsight, to science_memes in linguistics

Obligatory alt text:

“Do you feel like the answer depends on whether you’re currently in the hole, versus when you refer to the events later after you get out? Assuming you get out.”

XKCD should always include the alt text, imho. It’s often the better punchline (as in this case, imho.)

DeanFogg, to memes in fuck it

Fuck it let’s build a dyson ring and plug that bitch into Mars’ core

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