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FastAndBulbous, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

Do you ever get tired of being angry at everything?

Touching_Grass, to memes in Breaking

Is there a source on that photo because it is awesome. But is it actual historical or just modern and staged

somenonewho,

So … I was also interested by that question and intrigued by that photo, so I put on my research cap and went away.

From what I found out it seems to be both:

A staged photo/shot but from a historical movie called Dr. Mabuse the Gambler .

I was able to find the movie on YouTube with A seance scene which however does not seem to be the same scene (or at least a different angle) from the picture. If anyone has the time to scroll through all 4h of that movie the scene in the picture might be in there.

rtxn, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

EVs eliminate fuck all as long as hydrocarbon power plants exist. Like Tesla’s famous diesel-powered solar charger.

Zoboomafoo,
@Zoboomafoo@lemmy.world avatar

But that’s changing for the better?

ramenshaman,

Look into Aptera. It’s a solar EV that can get up to 40 miles of charge per day from the sun.

squaresinger,

And if you’d plonk down that solar panel onto a roof where it catches much more sunlight, it would be able to produce even more electricity!

ramenshaman,

Idk, I park outside, I don’t think I’d really get that much more sunlight. Also I rent so I can’t just bolt stuff to my roof.

squaresinger,

But are all sides of the car in the optimal angle towards the sun? No trees or buildings near your parking spot that could shade your car?

There is a pretty huge demand for solar panels right now. If these panels didn’t go into a car, someone else would mount them to a roof instead.

ramenshaman, (edited )

But are all sides of the car in the optimal angle towards the sun?

No, but neither are solar panels on houses. For the car, it’s ideal to park facing North/South. For stationary solar panels, it’s ideal to have solar panels mounted on a pan/tilt platform so they can always face the sun, which is rare.

No trees or buildings near your parking spot that could shade your car?

It’s pretty clear at my house, I have a designated outdoor parking space. Not perfect but definitely sufficient for my commute. At my work there aren’t any obstructions.

If these panels didn’t go into a car, someone else would mount them to a roof instead.

No, they developed and patented their own tech for curved solar panels.

Sneptaur,
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

They genuinely are about 3 times more efficient, so that’s not really accurate.

MxM111, (edited )
@MxM111@kbin.social avatar

For US mix of power generation, EVs typically produce approximately 3 times less of CO2. https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars

Bipta,

Larger power plants that don't carry their fuel are much more efficient, but we're still fucked if we don't phase them out.

Zehzin, (edited )
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Big hydrocarbon plants are more effective than the little ones inside cars. There’s still other factors to consider like mining of minerals that contribute to make EVs not good, but they’re a little less bad for the environment than the combustion kind even if your energy comes from bad sources

TheOctonaut,
kamen, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

Unless we’re talking solar, wind or something else clean and renewable, EVs don’t eliminate emissions, they just move them somewhere else.

desconectado, (edited )

That’s still much better though. Lots of people die from lung cancer and other lung related illnesses due to pollution in cities. Also, if emissions are concentrated somewhere else it’s more economical to treat them, instead of being spread out in an urban area.

This whole crap that something has to be 100% perfect to be a proper solution has to end. I’m against the use of cars, but let’s be seriously, they will never go away.

AlboTheGuy,
@AlboTheGuy@feddit.nl avatar

Exactly, also electricity from fossil fuels is still cleaner, the process at the plant is way more efficient and way more scrutinized (check every car and every producer and every user or check plants, which works best?)

Spzi,

They eliminate a part of the emissions, since one big engine (like a power plant) can be run more efficiently than many small engines (in individual vehicles).

Similarly, transporting electricity through wires creates less emissions than transporting fuel with trucks. Both serve the purpose of refueling other vehicles.

Even coal powered EVs are better than gasoline cars.

kamen,

Fair point. But that pollution still ends up in the atmosphere, just less concentrated above the cities.

UrPartnerInCrime,
@UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works avatar

Whine some more after you lost. That’ll really help our case.

Hacksaw, to memes in Breaking

I love the caption! 6 people holding a seance but they have 22 hands lol

Jokes aside the fact that people put the effort to caption their images for accessibility is awesome!

SpaceNoodle, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

TIL bicycles can ride on ice and snow

mondoman712,
grue,
Masimatutu,
@Masimatutu@mander.xyz avatar

I always commute by bike, even if it’s -10 °C and snow.

Zehzin, (edited )
@Zehzin@lemmy.world avatar

Nevermind the fact it doesn’t snow enough for that to be a problem in most of earth. There are more methods of transportation other than those two and not every place needs to have the same transportation matrix.

Horst_Voller,

Why yes they can. Spike tires are a thing. Then again for the vast majority of people that is really not a problem for 360 day a year.

squaresinger,

Sure they can. I’ve been doing that for quite a few years until climate change warmed my city up so much that snow and ice don’t really happen anymore.

GBU_28,

Ice is iffy, if the trails aren’t managed and you don’t have studded tires. Snow is no problem.

GBU_28,

Ice is iffy, if the trails aren’t managed and you don’t have studded tires. Snow is no problem.

SubArcticTundra, to memes in Breaking
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

This adds a whole new meaning to ‘shadow cabinet’

greenmarty, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

There are pros and cons to each solution but this one satire is obviously biased one way.

daltotron, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

Relatively split reaction, huh? Interesting.

So, I think it’s kind of naive to believe that we can solve everything tomorrow/very soon with public transportation. It’s pretty easy to believe that if you define the rural/urban divide to include a lot of suburbs as urban, which sort of, gets away from the bleakness of the situation a little bit, I think. I think I remember somewhere around a third being split between each form, with a little less being in the suburbs compared to either rural or urban, so it’s pretty evident that, even of a portion of the people that work in cities, live just outside cities, those people live with untenable densities for public transportation. I think that’s solvable, right, in the long term, by local municipalities, over the course of the next 40-50 years give or take, because infrastructure gets decroded, needs to be replaced, and you can replace it in the meantime just by reworking the standards, something which is generally self-evident to voters as a better solution and creates a positive feedback loop as long as people aren’t completely propagandized to.

The only problem I think you might encounter with this is that it’s very hard to get this going in a place that doesn’t already support it at all. It’s much easier to create public transport if you have somewhere to go, if you’re already on the outskirts of a large city. If you make a walkable place in the midst of a collection of townships and municipalities which don’t support that, you’ve become less permeable to cars, and those other municipalities need to provide public transport that goes to your town where they can spend money on your goods and stimulate your local economy, and that doesn’t strike me as something likely to happen. This is the structure of lots of shitholes in america already, because the lack of density kind of lends itself towards a fragmented series of municipalities joined together with dogshit social services rather than a singular contiguous government.

But, then, I also think it’s kind of insane the level to which we accept cars and car-centric infrastructure as inevitable even within this context. If you want to slowly increase density, I think there’s really a lot of progress that could be made, not specifically by the technology of EVs, but just by making cars smaller. Like, we already see that in europe, japan, whatever. EVs have bigger batteries on average, sure, but you’re not going to see people get up in arms about the increased pollution that E-bikes cause, and that’s the same fundamental technology of a battery electric vehicle in a different form factor. I feel like the first and most obvious step towards a solution would be decreasing the absolutely extreme size of cars in the US, in any case. You can still be compatible with your 15 mile city outskirts shithole suburb while driving a car that’s the size of a geo metro or smaller. It’s worked so far for me, anyways. Decreasing size totally strikes me as a bigger win than transitioning to EVs, a higher priority, maybe, though, they’re not really mutually exclusive in any way. Smaller lighter cars can be safer in crashes because of the decreased mass, decreased need for stopping power, they can be more gas efficient, possibly much more gas efficient, especially with hybrid technologies. It strikes me as a much simpler solution, one that legitimately requires less production to solve the issue, is more efficient.

arc,

Definitely so it’s not a binary all or nothing - one way or another. It needs to be governments putting their fingers on the scale and pushing development in a way that lowers CO2 emissions, energy use, reliance of fossil fuels etc. I think some countries like the US are too far hooked on cars to think they’ll change over night to optimal urban designs, so even pushing people to use EVs, install solar on their houses etc. is a positive over what exists now. Perhaps in due course, they’ll change but it needs political will - to increase urban density, change building codes, create hubs etc.

iforgotmyinstance, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

Me rn after the vehicle I own free and clear gets a letter from the state demanding 300 bucks in extortion I mean registration money.

PowerCrazy,

Should be $3000.

FireRetardant,

After they rebuild cities around walkability and transit. Other options have to exist and be viable to truly shift away from cars.

chemicalwonka, to memes in Breaking
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Satan has only one job to do: Don’t let this bitch ever return to Earth, if he does it well he will be forgiven.

Evilphd666, to memes in Breaking
@Evilphd666@hexbear.net avatar
glibg10b, (edited ) to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

Tail-pipe emissions are not a problem anymore, thanks to obd2, cats, efi and egr

BoxedFenders,
@BoxedFenders@hexbear.net avatar

Cats reduce pollutants that contribute to smog that directly harm human health. But they do nothing to reduce the net carbon released into the atmosphere. In fact, by converting carbon monoxide to carbon dioxide they are hastening climate change (CO2 is a more potent greenhouse gas than CO).

ElHexo,

And the latest in cheat devices

Abracadaniel,
@Abracadaniel@hexbear.net avatar

Let me introduce you to carbon dioxide

RizzRustbolt, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

Not so much eliminate the emissions as pawn them off on the coal industry.

Although in some markets they do use renewables or nuclear.

gayhitler420, to fuck_cars in Yes, also Teslas

There’s not enough lithium for evs either.

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