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user224, to slovakia in takto to priblizne vyzera ked sa hubar stretne s majakom.
@user224@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

zial, lemmy mi nedovoli nahrat video tak je tu link na reddit prispevok, inak to asi nejde.

Väčšina inštancí nepodporuje nahrávanie videí, ale viem že niektoré túto možnosť pridali.
Je však možné do URL vložiť link samotného videa, napríklad z Imgur. (i.imgur.com/kOnEf5O.mp4)

Tiež je možné embedovať video do komentára: ![]([https://i.imgur.com/kOnEf5O.mp4)
https://i.imgur.com/kOnEf5O.mp4

ferozkosic,
@ferozkosic@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

dakujem za radu pan hubar, skusim niekedy pri dasom videoprispevku

bionicjoey, to privacyguides in Thoughts on this Reddit post claiming 'Lemmy doesn't care about privacy'?

If you post something on the internet, there should be no expectation that it won’t be preserved for an arbitrary length of time. Same as how you can’t legally claim that you expect privacy while in public

DidacticDumbass,

This. Everyone needs to be mindful about what they post. You are communicating with real human beings afterall, with their own life history and memory.

So be kind and give up the fantasy you can reverse your actions.

thanksforallthefish, to privacyguides in Thoughts on this Reddit post claiming 'Lemmy doesn't care about privacy'?

Slanted but accurate.

Neither Lemmy nor Reddit are private, they’re both publicly indexable (google et al).

On the other hand reddit goes to a lot of trouble to capture everything about you. Lemmy is not quite that greedy.

One is a for profit willing to do whatever it takes to make a buck. The other is FOSS and run by volunteers.

I think it’s pretty clear which is the greater threat.

iso, to privacyguides in Hetzner server hosting potentially running MITM proxies on hosted servers
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Interesting 🤷‍♂️ I’ll check news on this. I won’t use Hetzner if its true.

empireOfLove,

Please do. An unsubstantiated reddit thread does not a story make- but the more people we get to look into it, the more likely someone will corroborate it (or not)

QuazarOmega,

An unsubstantiated reddit thread does not a story make

Awoken I am

geekworking,

If want something that is immune from law enforcement wiretap warrants, you should avoid basically all hosting and internet service providers.

Read the TOS on virtually every service. There’s some language to say that they will comply with legal requests. The company is not going to fight the government for your $5 account.

Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Facebook, etc all have wiretap and legal discovery tools built into their platforms and have a dedicated team to process wiretaps.

iso,
@iso@lemy.lol avatar

Stop the service and inspect the machine for law violations. I’m ok to that. But proxying the network without a notice is literally spying.

Reverse the case, if a Chinese/Russian provider did this, would you still be OK? It’s funny US and west countries blaming easterns for spying while doing far far more.

geekworking,

The entire term wiretap comes from spying on phone conversations upstream without the target’s knowledge. This is no different.

China and Russia are 1000% doing this and more to anything hosted anywhere under their jurisdiction. The CCP brags about the Great Firewall.

I don’t necessarily agree with any of it, but I am pointing out that changing providers to one who wasn’t in the news is not a way to get around government data collection.

taaz, to privacyguides in Hetzner server hosting potentially running MITM proxies on hosted servers

The linked research: notes.valdikss.org.ru/jabber.ru-mitm/

I have two dedis from Hetzner and I was somewhat satisfied with it. Oh my, it migh be that time of the year where I go shopping for a NUC.

KingThrillgore,
@KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml avatar

Had a friend that got a cheapo Gigabyte NUC and he needed to use a dummy HDMI for it to even boot. As it, it wouldn’t boot w/o a monitor. Take heed.

KairuByte,
@KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That’s a pretty meh problem though. It’s the whole reason dummy HDMI’s exist.

justJanne,

There’s no provider that’s going to be more safe than Hetzner, tbh.

If a provider doesn’t comply, you’ll just get special services raiding their DCs instead.

And if you switch to a VPS provider, you’re even more exposed.

Set up CAA with proper restrictions, enforce CT for your clients and use proper full disk encryption to prevent them from placing implants on your server itself.

ezchili,

Just buy a raspi to check the certificates periodically :>

TonyToniToneOfficial,
@TonyToniToneOfficial@lemmy.ml avatar

Alwyzon is nice. Good ping times.

empireOfLove,

Ahhh. Going after Russian services of course.

Knowing the German government I’m not terribly surprised Hetzner was forced to comply quietly. But still, if they’ll do it for one user, they’ll do it for everyone. Really sucks.

Madiator2011, to privacyguides in Hetzner server hosting potentially running MITM proxies on hosted servers

It’s is also affecting auction servers?

ericjmorey, to privacyguides in Hetzner server hosting potentially running MITM proxies on hosted servers
@ericjmorey@programming.dev avatar
plazman30, to maliciouscompliance in Reddit: open /r/pics or else. Mods: OK but you didn't say how

Both are bad choices. When reddit says open /r/pics or else, you just delete /r/pics.

Reddit has NEVER been profitable. It's the classic:

  1. Takes a bunch of venture capital funding
  2. Builds a huge user base
  3. Get bought
  4. Parent company tries to figure out a way to make money off of you.
  5. When they can't, they try to spin you off and IPO you.
  6. You have your "oh shit" moment and realize you actually have to be profitable now.

This is the crap that caused the dot-com bubble in the late 90s.

Their current business model is unsustainable.

They're doing the API war out of sheer survival.

The sad part is, we all went along for the ride, using the service and filling it with useful information, never wondering if it was still going to be there a decade or two later.

Reddit wants to IPO. Having gone through the IPO process twice now with a company, I can tell you, the only thing that matters is money in the bank. The more money you have in the bank, the more you can charge for your IPO. When I worked at CompUSA back in the 90s, we didn't pay any of our creditors for something like 6 months before the IPO to swell the bank accounts. I remember the week before the IPO, we had almost nothing in the store, because we owed everyone money. 30 days after IPO, trucks came rolling in again with product.

Starmina,

You can't delete r/pics, they would just restore it.

n3rding,

This unfortunately is the truth, at the end of the day they will just find new moderators who wont be acting for the users or at least the majority. I'm a mod and although I want this to work and it may still have some impact realistically mods are powerless. Only users talking with their feet can really make a long term difference and there isn't a like for like replacement yet..

c2h6,

All these antics can help get people bored with the site though.

n3rding,

Really we don't want to force users off, we want users to want to leave because of how reddit treats it's free labour and content or for reddit to actually work with the subs it's demonizing

takeda,

They're doing the API war out of sheer survival.

That would be true if they made i fees reasonable or at least gave more time. This change caused mobile apps to shut down. The revenue from that is $0.

plazman30,

This change sucks. But, from what I read, Reddit have NEVER been profitable. If they were smart, they would modified the API so it included ads. I don’t think Reddit is long for this world. Even if these protests were effective, reddit is eventually going away. They’re too big to make a profit now.

takeda,

When you say “NEVER been profitable” is there a reliable source for that or is it spez?

Hosting a link agregator is cheap, it is purely just text. Yes they now host images and videos, and I think they shouldn’t do that if the cost is a problem, also they could always discontinue it.

Going back to the API. If they really need cash they could work with developers. They could reduce the fees and give 3 months heads up like they have been asked.

The whole spectacle didn’t sound “we need money to survive”, it sounded like “we could make more money from users by forcing them to switch to our crappy app, by shutting down 3rd party apps”

plazman30,

seekingalpha.com/…/4477033-reddit-unprofitable-de…

Nevertheless, like many IPOs, Reddit remains unprofitable. The question for investors is whether Reddit can achieve minimum viable economies of scale and achieve profitability. So far, there are no indications that this will happen.

There are few other sources that say reddit is unprofitale.

takeda,

What I’m saying is that their core service doesn’t cost much to run. They could have small team to run everything and would make a lot of money, but their goal is to make it a billion dollar business, when it is not.

BTW: I also find the article funny, on one bad it says they are seeking $15 billion valuation, then it says it doesn’t generate money. So that creates a question, how come a company that doesn’t generate a profit costs $15 billion?

plazman30,

That happens all the time with publicly traded companies. This is the reason why we had the dotcom bubble burst in the last 1990s.

heliumlake,
@heliumlake@lemmy.world avatar

Wow, I totally forgot about CompUSA. I used to love going there as a kid, back when Apple had that underdog appeal. Now I'm a FOSS maxi (just don't look at my iPhone...).

plazman30,

CompUSA was a shitty place to work.

Rogue_General,
@Rogue_General@lemmy.world avatar

Both are bad choices. When reddit says open /r/pics or else, you just delete /r/pics.

Hard disagree with your first sentence. As @Starmina explained, Reddit would just force re-open it.

And as explained in my comment, this is causing Reddit users to switch over to Lemmy due to the protesting subs getting stale: https://lemmy.world/comment/289241>

IninewCrow, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@IninewCrow@kbin.social avatar

I think part of it is about retention .... retaining all those users, especially those with high karma levels (or at least users who believe they have high karma) from abandoning the site and ending their accounts.

I'm currently in the process of ending my four accounts I have on reddit. Two of them are over 100,000 in karma and when I read this post, the very first thing that popped into my mind was .... HOW MUCH WILL MY ACCOUNTS BE WORTH?

So it's now making me think ... if I can just keep up my account for another while, maybe I can cash in on all that karma I accumulated.

I am sure that many other redditors are thinking the same. The way this reddit admin posted the info is really weird too ... it sounded like some salesman just enticing people into an idea but not fully being able to say much about it and instead making vague suggestions that something big is coming in the future.

I know a sales job when I see one .... and this is a sales job. Many people will fall for it ... if not just to hang on to see if they can at least cash in our something ... anything when the announcement happens.

Say or think what you want about me ... but I'm ending this relationship and deleting my accounts ... I don't trust big corporations to say or do anything that might give me a chance at anything. Any action they elicit from me or any user will be gamed to only benefit them. If not enough people figure that out ... reddit will make bank in the short term and that is all they are counting on.

waterbogan,

I think part of it is about retention … retaining all those users, especially those with high karma levels (or at least users who believe they have high karma) from abandoning the site and ending their accounts.>

If they were actually serious about retention of high karma users they could at least consider not suspending/ banning such users without a very good reason. My previous account on there was nuked for reasons I dont understand to this day, I would have happily stayed on otherwise. I have a temporary account there now which I had no intention of putting any money into - well now the one reason i might have been tempted to do so is going away anyway.

The award/ coin system was great, and I spent a bit of money on it, it was also a very good way to pay for or be paid for small international transactions - I assisted a few people with minor things and they paid my costs such as they were with reddit coin, saving them and me international bank transaction fees. I also liked rewarding intelligent and incisive comments that needed recognition as such.

Reddit really is going down the shitter

VulcanSphere, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@VulcanSphere@kbin.social avatar

The Snoo Platform gone mad with their own userbase...

joelfromaus, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

One thing I’ve seen a lot of is comments wishing that Lemmy/Kbin had support for some sort of gilding. So it’s obviously a feature that people enjoyed using which means Reddit just has to enshittify it. This is the way.

nicetriangle,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Honestly it’d be kinda nice for Lenny/Kbin instances to help keep the servers running without having to do something like ads.

kunic,
@kunic@kbin.social avatar

Precisely. They were a fun thing to give out, and directly helped to pay for server time. I even liked how Reddit would tell you how much server time your awards gave to Reddit (which I think they've removed?).

tjhart85,
@tjhart85@kbin.social avatar

100%, but the Federated nature would make this difficult, I'd imagine.

I'd love a way to simultaneously:

  • show someone I appreciate their comment
  • Help support an instance
  • Help support KBin development

But, outside of crypto, I don't see an easy way to make that happen and doing it through crypto would bring out the crypto bros and mega-anti crypto joe's in about equal numbers, which would suck (plus, who's to say that an instance admin even wants to deal with crypto to collect a few bucks).

joelfromaus,
@joelfromaus@aussie.zone avatar

Absolutely! Server donations are good for a single instance but I think a service that allows users to purchase gold/awards and awards the particular instance (with funds) that they get used on would help fund the Fediverse as a whole. I imagine implementing something like that would not be simple but anything is better than injecting ads.

nicetriangle,
@nicetriangle@kbin.social avatar

Yeah I’m already donating via “buy me a coffee” might as well make it fun to do.

HipPriest,

I think it should be totally anonymous though because otherwise you go down the road of users with special avatars and good knows what

thanevim,

implementing something like that would not be simple

Especially with the idea that an instance a user calls home/registered on would have to be ok with allowing a donation link to go to the instance that the user you're "gilding" is on

density,
@density@kbin.social avatar

let's inventing banking again! the bitcoin people are having so much fun doing that.

falsem,

That was the original pitch for gold on Reddit.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

Kbin already has this covered. We can pay monthly to keep servers running via

Patreon and Liberapay.

@Ernest has transferred the existing Buy Me A Coffee money over to the server fund and from this point on we really can buy him a beer via Buy Me A Coffee which is cool!

neshient,

any particular reason why there are 2 monthly payment options?

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I'm not Ernest but my guess is it gives us greater flexibility?

Like, some of us are already active on one or the other of those platforms, plus between them there are lots of different options for amount. I'd never heard of Liberapay but I like how it's a non-profit.

density,
@density@kbin.social avatar

Well there are 49 subscribed people on patreon totaling $170/month. Lots of people probably already have accounts set up which makes it a very low threshold to join.

Meanwhile on librepay, arguably more philosophically suitable, there are 11 subscribers totaling $13/month.

Man, considering how many people I have seen saying how great it is to be able to pay, and asserting they are making donations, those are very low numbers.

livus,
@livus@kbin.social avatar

I think @neshient is likely to be right. IIRC something like 800 people have been donating via Buy Me A Coffee.

neshient,

Could be because it is less circulated. I had seen the coffee option previously but didn't realise the other 2 options had been setup until I came across this comment.

NekoKamiGuru,
@NekoKamiGuru@ttrpg.network avatar

Do not imagine for an instant that if Lemmy/Kbin becomes like Reddit and embraces enshitification that the community will not walk again.

Eggyhead, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

I never bought coins or whatever, but I had inherited a bunch somehow. I jumped on reddit just now to find an old thread I'd saved and found this in my inbox:

Hello from Reddit,
We’re reaching out because you have Reddit Premium and/or Reddit Coins on your account.
TL;DR: We're making updates to awards and coins on Reddit that we'll complete by September 12, 2023. As part of this, we made a decision to move away from Reddit coins and awards. This includes the 700 monthly coins* and Premium Awards, which are currently part of the Reddit Premium experience.
You'll still be able to use your Reddit Coins until September 12, after which they'll be removed from your account.
Note: all other current Premium perks will still continue to exist, including the ad-free experience.
As we looked at our current awarding system, there was consistent feedback from redditors that stood out – particularly around the clutter from awards and all the steps involved with awarding content. We also learned that redditors want awarded content to be more valuable. With that, we are reworking how great content and contributions are rewarded on Reddit. We will have more updates to share soon.
If you have further questions please check out our announcement post to read more about the update.

  • This perk is part of the paid Reddit Premium experience.

Thought it was kind of funny considering I never once cared about coins in the first place. Just checked and apparently I have "13325 coins to spend." I'm just going to let them go unless someone has a more maliciously compliant suggestion.

IninewCrow,
@IninewCrow@kbin.social avatar

Award a bunch of posts and memes making fun of r/spez

Grimpen,

I can’t think of anything too maliciously compliant. Maybe give Reddit Gold to posts describing how to join Lemmy or something? Awards should boost visibility. It’s at least a little ironic to use Reddit 's own awards to help people escape.

Eggyhead,
@Eggyhead@kbin.social avatar

This is not a bad idea at all. I’ll do a search for “lemmy” and “kbin” at some point tomorrow and throw coins at any of the useful posts I find.

stopthatgirl7, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

So they’re getting rid of coins and awards, but don’t have any kind of replacement actually planned yet?

They should have held off until they knew what the replacement would be. As it is, they’re yanking something that made Reddit unique for…what, exactly?

McBinary,
@McBinary@kbin.social avatar

Applying gold and awards will hold posts on the frontpage even if they're downvoted to oblivion. They're likely getting rid of them as a way of manipulating the narrative.

HipPriest,

The replacement is to pay people with actual money per upvotes awards etc according to some code that was spotted recently

Great huh? That's really going to improve the quality of their content and their profitability... 🙄

EDIT https://www.androidauthority.com/reddit-contributor-program-3343397/

BananaTrifleViolin,

Reddit really is done. This will drive spam and discourage people posting original content as they will see it stolen and reposted by the karma farming parts of reddit. They already flood communities with crap; reddit seems to just be taking another giant crap on the moderators who will have to deal with the tide of people trying to manipulate the new system for financial gain.

The best content on Reddit is not by "top contributors" whoever they may be. It's the random helpful posts that you stumble across or find on Internet seaches, or the thought provoking posts and comments that push back against the hive mind. Generally I find most (not all but most) of the up voted and awarded content to be trash or low value. Moving to financially incentivise that show Reddit really don't understand their own site.

gornar,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

I actually improved my reddit experience back in the day by blocking the top creators and checking that top list every few months to make sure it was current. Instantly better!

Rhodin,
@Rhodin@kbin.social avatar

Because paying people to post worked so well for Quora…

jon,

Just curious, what happened there?

HipPriest,

Quora is an impeccable font of online knowledge and we should be grateful for bwahaha no I can't even...

Basically the amount of karma farming that already happens on Reddit is going to quadruple. And yeah it's going to be a) on the more 'serious' questions like Quora and b) on the more AITA or Confessions posts 'oh you guys have helped me so much, of you can upvote me and give me some awards it'll really help get my life on track'

Part of me couldn't believe they'd actually introduce this but in light of everything this year, whatever. Because what else could benefit Reddit ....oh yeah - grifters!

If they want to add fuel to the fire that's burning down the house fine. I'm over at Kbin. I'm staying.

My only regret is there's some really great health support communities there and I hope they can be allowed to live in peace because I don't think they'll feasibly migrate.

Locuralacura,

I’m only on reddit for a few select, very specific communities. If I ever find a replacement it’s over. Help with Immigration laws, teach practices, language learning ECT. I’m thinking maybe I’d like to start the teachers group over here.

bradorsomething,

That’s how this happens. The community is the value, not the platform. Once a critical mass crosses over, the same community can continue.

Locuralacura,

I definitely don’t have time to moderate, I barely have time to scan headlines.

stopthatgirl7,
@stopthatgirl7@kbin.social avatar

And oh look, it’s only available for people in the US! Because only Americans know things, amirite? 🙄

All they had to do was do nothing.

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

They're willing to pay idiots to ramble on but they aren't willing to pay international lawyers to straighten out all the paperwork so they can do this outside the US.

Acetanilide,

Is there a bin for usdefaultism yet?

Ragnell,
@Ragnell@kbin.social avatar

For a minute I thought you meant trashbin.

Acetanilide,

😬😬

HipPriest,

It's certainly worth paying to hear American views over the rest of the worlds I would say. Reddit is on to a winner with that one for sure. American Reddit users like u/spez are so wise while we are so stupid.

Sailor_jets,
@Sailor_jets@sh.itjust.works avatar

Reddit is an American website… IDK why this would surprise anyone.

abff08f4813c,

A company headquartered in the US but it's a website that has a presence in many countries, including the EU.

Maybe not surprising, but they are probably shortchanging themselves by not allowing folks from abroad to contribute into the program. USians aren't the only content creators.

mightysashiman,
@mightysashiman@kbin.social avatar

but the mentality of the whole platform is very USian centric nevertheless.

abff08f4813c,

Sure, and that's a problem. r/politics was too US centric which eventually drove the creation of other subs like r/animie_titties

There are (or were) a lot of corners that were an exception to the rule, for example I don't think that anyone would argue that r/de was very USian.

itsnotlupus,

Last I checked, there were at least 3 subreddits where cryptocurrency is being handed out regularly to active participants.
They’re called “Community Points”, and get a custom name for each sub (“moons” in /r/cryptocurrency, “donuts” in /r/ethtrader, and “bricks” in /r/fortniteBR.)

I don’t know how the other subs fared, but /r/cryptocurrency became noticeably gamed by actors attempting to maximize their financial gains.

So… I guess it’s gonna be awesome.

Hegar,

/r/cryptocurrency became noticeably gamed by actors attempting to maximize their financial gains.

I can't tell if that's life imitating art or vice versa but it made me giggle!

fearout, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@fearout@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, just got an email from them stating that (I still have premium from being guilded). Great company management as always.

“Users are leaving? I have an idea! Let’s nuke their coins, that’ll bring them back!”

InEnduringGrowStrong,

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

MelancholikhPatata, to RedditMigration in Reddit kills awards and coins
@MelancholikhPatata@kbin.social avatar

Reddit's self-destruction is quite impressive, I'm not going to lie

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