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swag_money, to linux in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

guys hear me out. steam os: debian edition

shasta,

This is not a problem with steam OS though

thecookingsenpai, to linux in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve
@thecookingsenpai@lemmy.world avatar

Tbh i never found an app that runs better on snap than on deb

Same goes for almost anything like snap

boaratio, to linux in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

Good. Snap is an abomination.

UnaSolaEstrellaLibre, to linux in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

Kinda saw this coming sooner or later.

I remember asking in one of their articles if they had planned to reign over (or partner up) the project over to Valve once it was ready and said they had no plans.

Dehydrated, (edited ) to linux in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

Let me simplify that: Canonical’s Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

Neon, to linux in Canonical's Steam Snap is Causing Headaches for Valve

Don’t they own the Code?

Can’t they just cease-and-desist them if they cause them trouble?

IrritableOcelot, to linux in Ayaneo Retro PC: Inspired by Mac, Runs Windows, Supports Ubuntu

So it’s a “gaming” machine with only integrated graphics, in a small and presumably not-that-well-cooled, albeit retro, case? I don’t see the appeal, and the article reads like ad copy, not a genuine opinion.

DeathWearsANecktie, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

A third competitor for Android and iOS would be amazing. But not if it’s Amazon…

chemicalwonka,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

OOnly if it is Libre Software. We are tired of proprietary rubbish

Patch,

Android is already free software, and see how far that gets you. The kicker is that you’re tied into their services (with all the data harvesting, targeted advertising and monetisation that that involves).

SatyrSack,

If you’re tied to their non-free services, then its not free software.

chemicalwonka,
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

I use GrapheneOS. Not all android is born equal

baconicsynergy,

Yes, because it is permissively open source, not only are these companies free to build what they want - we are entitled to that same right. We therefore created LineageOS and GrapheneOS, and its really great.

There’s also a lot of motivated people getting regular Linux distributions running on mobile devices too, so we have that as well

oxjox, (edited )
@oxjox@lemmy.ml avatar

I just read an article about how they’re increasing advertising on their Fire TVs. Rest assured, an Amazon OS is an Advertising OS.

Although, from what I’ve gathered of public opinion online, there’s LOTS of people willing to forgo their privacy in exchange for free shit.

Edit: Oh…

They say they expect Vega to begin shipping on Fire TVs early next year.

And that article arstechnica.com/…/after-luring-customers-with-low…

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Amazon would sell your DNA for 25 cents if they could.

digdilem,

No difference to Google then

Tak,
@Tak@lemmy.ml avatar

Google would sell it for 20 cents

chemicalwonka, (edited )
@chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

Apple would sell for 10 but would deny until death that it sold, and still convince you to believe that it didn’t sell.In addition to giving it a “cool” name like DNA Titanium Protection XDR or something like that,

semperverus, (edited )
@semperverus@lemmy.world avatar

pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/

pine64.com/product-category/…/pinephone-pro/

There is already something in the works (that you can technically buy right now if you wanted), and it actively respects your freedom. Granted, as with everything in this ecosystem, its a very slow burn, so it’ll be a while before the software is actually good, but it’s already made massive strides from where it started.

I would say wait a bit and take a look at this later, but i do have one friend daily driving one now to some success (this wasn’t possible a year ago).

droans,

That would be great, but you can buy a $20 burner from a gas station that’s more powerful than those phones.

The regular version uses the Allwinner A64 chip which retailed for $5 when it was released… Back in 2015.

The Pro version uses the RK3399S, which is a custom lower binned version of the RK3399. Neither chip was made available retail, but the SK3399 was released in 2016 and only otherwise used in low-end Chromebooks and SBCs.

semperverus,
@semperverus@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but calling them out for not being a $20 burner phone doesnt make sense when you’re comparing that to a developer/development device. This phone specifically isnt meant for everyday consumers. What it is, however, is a signal that there is now a third competitor in the works, and it’s real and tangible.

Secret300, to linux in NVIDIA Linux Driver Adds Wayland Bug Fixes and Improvements

Night light will finally work! I hope fedora updates to it sooner than later

BitSound, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

I know it won’t happen, but it’d be nice if Linux switched to GPLv3. That would at least help somewhat here

Pantherina,

Why?

Audacity9961, (edited )

It is because of the tivo workaround to GPLv2. This was fixed in GPL v3.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tivoization

Pantherina,

Damn that sucks. I think Linux is too “free as in free beer” but hey there is BSD

Audacity9961,

How would BSD help in this situation? I’m not sure I follow.

Pantherina,

Bsd is even less copyleft. Was meant as an even more “liberal” option

Audacity9961,

While I don’t mind BSDs, that would lead to even worse outcomes though in my view. Companies wouldn’t even have to release the source code, and they routinely don’t.

What we need is more copyleft to ensure companies contribute back to the communities they leach from, not less.

Pantherina,

Agree totally.

phoenixz,

Won’t ever happen, Linus is very much in favor of companies being able to use drm, when needed.

I kinda sorta agree because without it Linux wouldn’t be able to do anything requiring dr.m

Rustmilian,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar

The anti-tivoization clause in GPLv3 is what Linus is against specifically.

crmsnbleyd,
@crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz avatar

This is misleading, since regular desktop DRM would still obviously work, which is what the end user really cares about

phoenixz,

I haven’t looked into it for a while but iirc, certain DRM would require DRM kernel modules which is something that Linus explicitly wants to allow

Valon_Blue, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@Valon_Blue@sh.itjust.works avatar

All I’m hearing is that we might be able to hack these devices and put full Linux on them.

xia,

All I’m hearing is a subscription to remove the adverts on the command line.

Valon_Blue,
@Valon_Blue@sh.itjust.works avatar

See, that’s the situation where we just don’t use them. I’m talking about wiping the original OS and putting something that’s really FOSS in its place.

thezeesystem, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

As. Someone who is incredibly poor and use my current fire stick as a way to help me because of accessibility for my disabilities. Does anybody know if there’s a alternative to Chromecast, fire stick or Roku that doesn’t involve another computer (which I could get a raspberry pi or another computer dedicated to media, but government doesn’t believe in giving disabled people enough for those things)

interceder270, (edited )

but government doesn’t believe in giving disabled people enough for those things

Instead of subscribing to whatever streaming services you’re using roku for, you could be streaming everything for free here: fmoviesz.to

Use the money you save to buy a raspberry pi and wireless keyboard+mouse combo then you’re off to the races.

thezeesystem,

I don’t pay for my streaming services. My mom who is barley surviving too and others pay for it. Had no choice really. Sense I have zero income it’s hard to save up. (been battling the government for nearly 6 year’s to get SSI or anything to help )

interceder270, (edited )

You always have a choice when it comes to entertainment, especially digital.

Tell your mom who is barely surviving that she can stream more things for free than what she’s getting with her subscriptions.

Spread the love.

cupcakezealot,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar
tslnox,

Miracast is a wireless transmission technology, where the wireless signal is transmitted in a way that does not require any cables.

Thanks, captain Obvious. :-D

cupcakezealot, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

if it’s anything like amazon linux on ec2 i’ll pass

spark947,

What are your issues with it? Just curious - I’ve always found it to be an agreeable RHEL variant.

piracy_is_good_xdd,

note: you accidentally said the same thing twice

spark947,

Did it post twice? I think there is a bug somewhere between lemmy clients. I see it happen from time to time.

piracy_is_good_xdd,

probably, just wanted to inform you :)

spark947,

What are your issues with it? Just curious - I’ve always found it to be an agreeable RHEL variant.

fury, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android

Good luck getting all the developers to rewrite their apps. The only reason you had any apps was because it was based on Android so it was little to no effort to port. Going plain ol’ embedded Linux is basically the death knell of your developer story. Source: been there, had no third party apps, switched to Android

warmaster,

I’m sure they have thought of this, I wonder if they plan to use web apps, or Waydroid, or something else.

Also, there’s a chance mobile Linux could benefit from sponsorships, contributions, etc

GhostMatter, (edited )

It’s in the article. Web based stuff with REACT.

Edit: It’s REACT Native. Just read the fucking article, people.

andruid,

Oh man PWA as a replace to traditional apps have been promised for a while. On one hand the promise of write once run anywhere on the other less ability to lock down your app from your users (good for us, but not popular in the mobile space at the moment)

Phrodo_00,

Firefox did it like 10 years ago. I think it’s still going around under a different name in very low tier smart phones.

toastal,

You’re likely thinking KaiOS. They are still contributing what is required under MPL-2.0 but the rest is proprietary. KaiOS 3.x finally got off of a browser from 2016 as the base, but very few have upgraded their apps to be compatible (the tweaks were minor) & others have used it as a reminder that they were still ‘supporting’ a platform like whoever is maintaining or using that WhatsApp thing for chat.

There’s also Capyloon built from B2G, but it’s still early on & is targeting touch phones, instead of feature phones.

It would be nice to see it around IMO since it’d just be another enhancement to progressive web applications & JavaScript is a better target than Java or Swift.

dan,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

promise of write once run anywhere

PWAs are great if they’re written well, especially if they allow offline access.

There’s platforms like React Native where the apps are native on each platform (they use native UI widgets). You can’t just run the same code, but you can reuse probably 90-95% of code across platforms.

andruid,

I will have to check that out!

Auli,

Waydroid makes no sense since they are complaining people just sideload gapps.

Rustmilian,
@Rustmilian@lemmy.world avatar
cypherpunks, to linux in Amazon Building its Own Linux-Based OS to Replace Android
@cypherpunks@lemmy.ml avatar

oh great, yet another platform that will use free software to restrict what people can do with their computing devices 🤮

how is this supposed to be a good thing? 🙄

interceder270,

how is this supposed to be a good thing?

Well you see, it makes rich people more money.

wavebeam,
@wavebeam@lemmy.world avatar

I’m not sure how this is in any way different from android? Android is free software they use to restrict the computing they devices they sell to push more ads and junkware. This is just a different one. Amazon sucks, so I don’t see what move they could make that could be seen as positive. Just don’t buy their garbage devices.

BeardedGingerWonder,

With any luck they’ll probably introduce some new exploits to free up the device.

Holzkohlen,

I am in dire need of decent linux smartphones that aren’t android. Can Valve just get to it please?

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