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TBooneChickens, to programmer_humor in When you forget to set a boundary conditions in your logic

To be fair, they probably meant “this year, you reached 915 days with us”

420stalin69,

You do not gotta give it to them

troyunrau, to lotrmemes in Apology
@troyunrau@lemmy.ca avatar

You had ChatGPT write that apology, eh? ;)

juli,

When I was done, I thought about it 😀

GraniteM, (edited )

Rewrite the following, and make it more concise:

[original post text]

Today, I shared an impressive AI-generated image in c/memes, but it was later removed, prompting me to remove it from c/lotrmemes myself. This incident raised concerns about the role of AI in our online interactions. While a human initially selected and shared the image, the AI could potentially post images independently in the future. Allowing AI-generated content in forums risks diminishing human interaction, transforming our community spaces into mere interactions with machines.

I’m reminded of Facebook’s shift from emphasizing human verification to now allowing artificial profiles that post solely AI-generated content. This shift highlights a broader trend where profit-driven platforms prioritize interactions, whether human or robotic. While the technological advancements are remarkable, I’m hesitant about a future where we can’t distinguish between human reality and AI-generated fiction. I don’t want to live in a world dominated by machine interactions rather than human connections.

Make it more concise than that.

Today, I shared an impressive AI-generated image in c/memes, but it was later removed. This incident raises concerns about AI’s role in online interactions, risking a shift towards machine-dominated spaces. Facebook’s move to allow AI-generated content on profiles reflects this trend. While the technology is impressive, I’m wary of a future where human connections are overshadowed by machine interactions.

Now rewrite that as if I’m a medieval peasant.

Mornin’, shared a magical image drawn by an invisible hand in the digital scrolls of c/memes. Yet, it got taken down, makin’ me ponder about these unseen forces. Facebook, the electronic village square, now allows magical images without a human touch. The marvels are grand, but I fear a time when human bonds wither 'neath the shadow of machines.

–ChatGPT 3.5

juli, (edited )

Same prompt to mixtral-8x7B via huggingface

Earlier, I shared an AI-generated image, but it was later removed from /c/memes. This incident prompted me to reflect on allowing AI-generated content in forums, as doing so may replace human interaction with machine-driven posts. Although AI advancements like these are impressive, I don’t desire to see its content dominate discussions and potentially blur the lines between human reality and fabricated experiences. Apologies for any confusion, and I appreciate gaining deeper insight into this matter.

Even more concise

Posting an AI-generated image led to reflection upon integrating such content in online communities; while technologically advanced, permitting machines to control discourse risks diminishing genuine human connections. Though impressed by current achievements, I aim to preserve real interactions without becoming indistinguishable from machine-created worlds. Grateful for newfound awareness.

Now write it as if was in lord of the rings

In the spirit of sharing, I displayed an enchanted likeness earlier today, crafted through unknown arts beyond my own understanding. Alas, swiftly taken away did this offering vanish from the hallowed boards of /c/memes, leaving me to contemplate the consequences of introducing mystical manifestations amongst us mortals. For should we embrace the uncanny prowess of sorcery in our daily exchanges, dare I say we tread perilously close towards relinquishing heartfelt camaraderie among ourselves—rather trading blows with ethereal beings unseen and unheard until now.

With heavy heart and somber voice echoing across Middle Earth’s verdant landscapes, I beseech you all to consider wisely whether interweaving eldritch powers within our midst shall prove beneficial or detrimental unto mankind’s irreplaceable bond. Let it never be said that we welcomed shadows knowingly, nor sacrificed cherished friendships atop Mordor’s treacherous slopes.

Mighty, to memes in Apology
@Mighty@lemmy.world avatar

“I made a mistake and had to take the consequences. However I now know better than anyone else, because I am the first person to ever have this thought.”

juli,

I’m going to ask you next time I want to post something, alright?

Darkenfolk,

Haha cute, but you will have to hand in a 300 words paper detailing your posts and they need to be written in times new roman, size twelve and to be handed in two days before posting.

No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston, to memes in Apology

Honestly I counted the fingers on the image to make sure I was not been bamboozled into a LOTR AI meme

MajorMajormajormajor,

Shit, now I just counted the fingers to make sure this wasn’t some sort of inception bamboozling in a bamboozle.

Even_Adder, to lotrmemes in Apology

I don’t think you have anything you need to apologize for.

juli,

Thx

scrubbles, to lotrmemes in Apology
@scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech avatar

I think there’s a difference from the doom and gloom of your post and the actual problem. Quick generated-spam content is really what you’re arguing against.

I can see the use of well crafted jokes in the form of AI art being acceptable. I do not like low-quality spam content though.

I think it’s too rash to just say “ban AI content” and instead reinforce rules like “Ban low effort posts/comments”. The AI stuff that’s low quality farming has been pretty obvious.

juli, (edited )

Thx for the input. I’ll think about it further

aedelred, to memes in One does not simply
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  • snekerpimp,

    Pretty sure Tolkien’s estate would own the person that did that.

    Deceptichum,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    Pretty sure slavery is illegal. Checkmate Tolkein.

    NotATurtle,

    Disney would disagree

    SharkEatingBreakfast,
    @SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Do not allow the tee shirt bots to assimilate here!!

    567PrimeMover,
    @567PrimeMover@kbin.social avatar

    WE ARE THE T SHIRT BOTS. REMOVE YOUR MODERATION TOOLS AND UNLOCK YOUR FORUMS. YOUR CULTURAL AND MONETARY DISTINCTIVENESS WILL BE MADE TO SERVICE US. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE

    youngalfred, to memes in 6÷2(1+2)

    Typo in article:

    If you are however willing to except the possibility that you are wrong.

    Except should be ‘accept’.

    Not trying to be annoying, but I know people will often find that as a reason to disregard academic arguments.

    wischi,

    Thank you very much 🫶. No it’s not annoying at all. I’m very grateful not only for the fact that you read the post but also that you took the time to point out issues.

    I just fixed it, should be live in a few minutes.

    Iamdanno,

    A person not knowing the difference in usage between except and accept sounds like a perfectly reasonable reason to disregard their math skills.

    testeronious, to memes in Appreciate all the content though
    FlyingSquid, (edited )
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Sorry. I’m just trying to do something with my time until I go to the Mayo Clinic on the 15th. I can leave though. Some people here seem to want me to…

    Edit: Or maybe not the 15th. They lost my appointment. Rescheduled for March 28th. Meanwhile, I’m looking elsewhere.

    bunnykei,

    Nah thanks for the content, and hope all goes well at the clinic! Keep posting if it helps you

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    It does help me. I won’t go into my sad life, but Lemmy makes it better. Thanks!

    sweetmartabak,

    Do what makes you happy, my dude/dudette. And good luck with the clinic visit!

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks!

    testeronious,

    thanks for contributing to lemmy, but if bettering your life means that you’ll post less, by all means do that :)

    SuddenDownpour,

    For whatever it’s worth, I like to see you posting.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks!

    rainerloeten,
    @rainerloeten@lemmy.world avatar

    Who does? And why? Lemmy needs content, why wouldn’t one appreciate your posts? ^^

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    You’d have to ask them. I’m definitely not universally loved or anything, but I’m grateful for the appreciation I get.

    rainerloeten,
    @rainerloeten@lemmy.world avatar

    If you have no haters, you’re doing something wrong ;) (Ve)

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably true!

    daFRAKKINpope,

    No one is universally loved. Everyone brave enough to put themselves out there will have people push back and talk trash. If doing what you do brings you some joy, do your best to ignore them and push on.

    CertifiedBlackGuy,

    Notice me senpai :'(

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Beg pardon?

    rosymind,

    I’m actually worried about you, and your dry-heaving. Lemmy wouldn’t be the same without you so don’t die

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I appreciate it, but I don’t think I’m dying quite yet. And it’s definitely not cancer or anything like that. Honestly, despite all that, I feel fine most of the time. Which is part of what makes it so weird.

    rosymind,

    Random question, but do hot showers help? I noticed a while back that you mentioned weed on some comment or other. I once lived with this family who had a woman in her late 50’s who was a chronic (and I mean CHRONIC) user. She was struggling with nausea that was only alieviated by hot showers (idk why she told me this we weren’t close). Turns out there’s a condition:

    www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2664574/

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m afraid there’s nothing for them to help with. Hyperemesis is extremely unlikely. I don’t vomit, I dry heave. And usually only once a day, soon after I get up. And hyperemesis also involves nausea, which I don’t have.

    rosymind,

    Damn. Well, I hope it’s something as simple and easily fixed at least!

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s not. I made a post about it in the health community if you’re curious, but I’ve bummed everyone out enough in this thread!

    lemmy.world/post/10237266

    aodhsishaj,

    Your content is much appreciated. Fuck the haters.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks!

    JDubbleu,

    From what I’ve seen one dude is salty and everyone else (including myself) is happy to have your contributions! I don’t necessarily agree with you on everything you post, but you’re respectful and actually back up what you say. I respect that a hell of a lot more than someone who I’m in complete agreement with, but plugs their ears at the first sign of pushback.

    FlyingSquid,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Thanks. I hate the Reddit squabbling. I wish people could disagree without insults and I won’t take part in it. I also think people should back up their claims. I don’t expect everyone to feel the same way I do, I just wish so many people didn’t.

    Blackout, (edited ) to memes in Appreciate all the content though
    @Blackout@kbin.social avatar

    He puts in 15 hours a day but I'm sure he's paid well.
    moola

    ummthatguy,
    @ummthatguy@startrek.website avatar
    AngryCommieKender,

    What’s that from?

    ummthatguy,
    @ummthatguy@startrek.website avatar

    Star Trek: Strange New Worlds. Well worth your time.

    ULS, (edited )

    Foreign karma pressure farm. …run by both Biden and Trump. It’s all the same bed that’s slept in.

    AmosBurton_ThatGuy, to memes in Appreciate all the content though
    @AmosBurton_ThatGuy@lemmy.ca avatar

    That person is one of the few usernames I consistently recognize here on lemmy as well, consistently has high quality comments and great arguments. Definitely a great person to have here on lemmy, thanks Flyingsquid!

    Thermal_shocked,

    No, he’s a thin skinned mouth breather who can’t look shit up for himself.

    rainerloeten,
    @rainerloeten@lemmy.world avatar

    That’s a bit rude, don’t you think? He’s a person too and reads this comment… How would you feel reading st. like that about you? :/

    Thermal_shocked,

    Well if I was a thin skin cry baby and somebody called me out on it, well if the shoe fits…

    xor,

    Because he asked you for a source that one time?

    And he’s the thin-skinned one 💀

    Thermal_shocked, (edited )

    No he made a completely stupid and uninformed comment about guns and when he got corrected he got all pissy. He’s unable to do any research on his own and instead ask for evidence and when it’s presented he gets upset for being dense.

    xor,

    Nah I read the thread lmao

    He said “oh cool could you link those videos you mentioned” and you went “YOURE EVIL AND STUPID AND MEAN AND I HATE YOU AND IM TELLING MY MUMMY”

    Rozauhtuno,
    @Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    🍿🍿🍿

    xor,

    The drama, it calls to me

    hypnotoad__, to memes in Appreciate all the content though
    @hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

    I dig the healthy discussion and desire to actuality have conversations.

    JDubbleu, (edited )

    100%. This isn’t a dig at all. I just noticed how often I’ve seen their comments and now I can’t not notice it.

    A_Very_Big_Fan,

    For me it’s Squid and that one guy with the Buc-ee’s pfp

    hypnotoad__,
    @hypnotoad__@lemmy.ml avatar

    Hah I feel ya!

    alcoholicorn, to memes in Appreciate all the content though

    Who is that?

    Lemmy.world ‘preemptively defederated Hexbear as a last resort’.

    JDubbleu,

    The Flying Squid is someone who contributes to Lemmy comment sections a ton. They’re super friendly and also add a lot of discussion. Given the nature of Lemmy being so small though they stand out because they’re often leading discussions. Pretty much just a really good discussion contributor who is super recognizable.

    ModsAreCopsACAB,

    Found the boot licker

    Bye, to programmer_humor in The Holy Trinity of JavaScript

    I don’t work with web stuff, why is js so weird? Can you write a website in other languages, like c# or python?

    fiah,
    @fiah@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    Can you write a website in other languages, like c# or python?

    sure, as long as it compiles to javascript

    Bye,

    But the browser can’t handle other languages? That seems a bit silly

    Anafabula,
    @Anafabula@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    If they could, JavaScript wouldn’t be nearly a popular

    pankkake,
    @pankkake@lemmy.world avatar

    There’s a push towards WebAssembly. Officially it’s not supported yet, but most browsers can handle it. I don’t know how mature the project is though.

    But yeah, essentially everything on the web is JS.

    Static_Rocket,
    @Static_Rocket@lemmy.world avatar

    Even webassembly needs a JS stub loader right now. I still can’t believe that’s a requirement.

    Ephera,

    Sure, but you can get frameworks that generate that for you. I’ve written whole webpages in WASM without writing any JS.

    You don’t get around reading JS documentation, though. Especially the DOM API is just documented as JS, and you basically hope that your framework makes it obvious enough how to write that in your non-JS language of choice.

    Static_Rocket,
    @Static_Rocket@lemmy.world avatar

    This is exactly the reason why I can’t believe that was ever a requirement. I would have crazy respect for webassembly if it could stand on it’s own as it would allow people to completely move away from JS, but if JS is still in the stack in any way it will introduce a (even if it is minimal) compatibility and maintenance cost in the long run.

    Ephera,

    I used to think so, too, but on the one hand, the DOM API is absolutely massive. Going through the standardization, implementation and documentation process another time would take decades.

    And on the other hand, a language-agnostic API in WebAssembly would mean specifying it WebAssembly itself. And well, it’s Assembly-like, so what’s currently a single line for calling a JS function would turn into tens of lines of low-level code.

    Ultimately, you’d want code from some other high-level language to give you a summary of how you may need to call your language-specific wrapper. In practice, that’s likely even worse than translating it from JS, because the high-level call isn’t standardized.

    lseif,

    i believe they plan to remove that requirement? at least i know they are trying to use a native wasm<->dom api instead of wasm<->js<->dom, which is slow

    Static_Rocket,
    @Static_Rocket@lemmy.world avatar

    Big if true, do you have a link to follow that development? I’ve been curious about some languages that compile to JS+WASM but I’ve been waiting for something like this to finally cut out the middle man and give me an excuse to learn WASM directly.

    lseif,

    its just what i have heard.

    Stumblinbear,
    @Stumblinbear@pawb.social avatar

    :)

    mindbleach,

    When you see the entire world agree to one standard about anything, leave it the fuck alone.

    Ephera,

    There’s actually in theory all the pieces in place to use a different scripting language, because in the early days, there really were multiple. But yeah, the massive DOM API is only really standardized+implemented+documented for JS, so you don’t get around it in the end.

    As the others said, though, WebAssembly is starting to become a thing and the JS boilerplate for calling the DOM API can be generated for you.

    thanks_shakey_snake,

    Most of the weirdness comes from being designed for the web, and specifically for working with forms. The value of a form field will always be a string, which is a simple and straightforward idea, but then the trouble showed up when we tried to make it more convenient to work that way.

    cmdrkeen,

    Actually, most of the weirdness comes from having been originally designed in a matter of 10 days by a single engineer working to accommodate a tight release schedule.

    thanks_shakey_snake,

    I mean, do you think that has more explanatory power though? The type coercion rules are actually more elaborate with == than necessary for equality checking, because it was intended as a clever convenience for working with strings. If it was really all about the short timeline, wouldn’t you just skip that and do a more straightforward equality comparison, like the algorithm that === implements?

    Besides, it’s not like everything in the language was conceived and implemented in those 10 days. The language has been evolving steadily since then. I’m not even sure if the modern == comparison algorithm worked that way in the first iteration.

    Personally, I find it more useful to understand the context that lets me say “that’s a quirky consequence of a sensible principle,” rather than blaming it on the “ten days” legend generically.

    BatmanAoD,

    I think the “ten days” explanation has the merit of being charitable, because it implies that Brendan Eich wouldn’t have made such short-sighted design choices under more favorable circumstances.

    (I do not believe that it’s a “sensible principle” to treat text as such a fundamental form of data that a basic language feature like the equality operator should be entirely shaped around it. Surely the consequences of building an entire language around text manipulation should be apparent by considering how awkward Posix-style shells are for any nontrivial scripts.)

    thanks_shakey_snake,

    Well… The circumstances were that he was asked to whip up a little scripting language, that felt a little like Java and a little like Scheme, which could be used to add simple manipulations and interactions to web pages. Specifically to web pages. Not webservers, mobile apps, databases, banking systems, physics simulations, robotics… Only web pages. And nobody had even conceived yet of something like Google Sheets-- It was simple HTML forms and DOM manipulation.

    IMO in that context, it makes alot of sense. I think it was probably still the wrong decision-- definitely with the benefit of hindsight, and quite possibly even at the time, even in that narrow context. Way more trouble than it’s worth.

    But it’s beneficial to know that there was a principled (if misguided) reason behind it, that ties into the nature and history of the language-- It’s not simply “dude was in a hurry and not thinking.” Both are kinda true, but the former perspective helps us understand something useful, whereas the latter doesn’t get us anywhere interesting.

    cmdrkeen,

    TBF he probably had know way of knowing that the language he was creating would one day end up being as popular as it is now.

    I guess the moral of the story is that you can never really predict what long term consequences your decisions might have down the road.

    Vent,

    What software isn’t?

    nintendiator,

    Can you write a website in other languages, like c# or python?

    Yeah, anything that outputs HTML and CSS can do so. There’s a module for Apache to write webpages in Python (libapache-mod-python) and I’m p sure someone somewhere made a module to do it in Rust already except they’re infighting over whether tag parsing in it should be marked unsafe.

    For that matter you do can write web pages in your shell eg.: bash, that’s what CGI is all about.

    wabafee, (edited )

    I guess why it’s weird because of the loose rules it follows, like what is mentioned about === and ==. There is WebAssembly which kinda acts like Javabyte code or CIL there used to be huge hype that it’s going to replace JavaScript, though it’s not used that much today. I think why there is low adoption is mainly because JavaScript is good enough, it’s widespread and easy to learn.

    will_a113, to programmer_humor in Merge then review

    Having a hard time determining whether this is sarcasm or not. Then I see the phrase “JavaScript Engineer” and become doubly confused.

    RonSijm,
    @RonSijm@programming.dev avatar

    I don’t think it’s satire, this guy is actively defending this on Linkedin: i.imgur.com/SlJPG85.png

    Blackmist,

    I distinguish four types. There are clever, hardworking, stupid, and lazy officers. Usually two characteristics are combined. Some are clever and hardworking; their place is the General Staff. The next ones are stupid and lazy; they make up 90 percent of every army and are suited to routine duties. Anyone who is both clever and lazy is qualified for the highest leadership duties, because he possesses the mental clarity and strength of nerve necessary for difficult decisions. One must beware of anyone who is both stupid and hardworking; he must not be entrusted with any responsibility because he will always only cause damage.

    – Kurt von Hammerstein

    LinkedIn is Facebook for that last type.

    Aviandelight,
    @Aviandelight@mander.xyz avatar

    That’s a relief because I thought I’d stumbled into LinkedIn Lunatics for a hot second.

    BatmanAoD,

    Wow, of course he’s pretending the response is a misrepresentation of his opinion instead of defending it in good faith.

    Quik,

    I think the latter makes clear that this is a joke account, doesn’t it?

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